10 hours of walking in NYC as a woman

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She had 2 guys in a 10 hour period stalk her basically. You dudes are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

I haven't had a person follow me for over a year much less TWICE in one day.
 

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto..._street_harassment_in_nyc_edited_out.htmlhtml

The Problem With That Catcalling Video, They Edited Out The White Guys

The Problem With That Catcalling Video
By Hanna Rosin

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Screen shot via YouTube

On Tuesday, Slate and everyone else posted a video of a woman who is harassed more than 100 times by men as she walks around New York City for ten hours. More specifically, it’s a video of a young white woman who is harassed by mostly black and Latino men as she walks around New York City for ten hours. The one dude who turns around and says, “Nice,” is white, but the guys who do the most egregious things—like the one who harangues her, “Somebody’s acknowledging you for being beautiful! You should say thank you more,” or the one who follows her down the street too closely for five whole minutes—are not.

This doesn’t mean that the video doesn’t still effectively make its point, that a woman can’t walk down the street lost in her own thoughts, that men feel totally free to demand her attention and get annoyed when she doesn’t respond, that women can’t be at ease in a public space in the same way men can. But the video also unintentionally makes another point, that harassers are mostly black and Latino, and hanging out on the streets in midday in clothes that suggest they are not on their lunch break. As Roxane Gay tweeted, “The racial politics of the video are fukked up. Like, she didn’t walk through any white neighborhoods?”

The video is a collaboration between Hollaback!, an anti-street harassment organization, and the marketing agency Rob Bliss Creative. At the end they claim the woman experienced 100 plus incidents of harassment “involving people of all backgrounds.” Since that obviously doesn’t show up in the video, Bliss addressed it in a post. He wrote, “we got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera” or was ruined by a siren or other noise. The final product, he writes, “is not a perfect representation of everything that happened.” That may be true but if you find yourself editing out all the catcalling white guys, maybe you should try another take.

This is not the first time Bliss has been called out for race blindness. In a video to promote Grand Rapids, Michigan, he was criticized for making a city that’s a third minority and a quarter poor look like it was filled with people who have “been reincarnated from those peppy family-style 1970s musical acts from Disney World or Knott’s Berry Farm,” as a local blogger wrote.

Activism is never perfectly executed. We can just conclude that they caught a small slice of catcallers and lots of other men do it too. But if the point of this video is to teach men about the day-to-day reality of women, then this video doesn’t hit its target. The men who are sitting in their offices or in cafes watching this video will instead be able to comfortably assure themselves that they don’t have time to sit on hydrants in the middle of the day and can’t properly pronounce “mami.” They might do things to women that are worse than catcalling, but this is not their sin.

A really good video about catcalling actually already exists. In Jessica’s Feminized Atmosphere, Jessica Williams of the Daily Show covers the whole range of street harassment, from construction workers (of all races) to security guards to Wall Street “douche bags” to teenagers hanging on the corner. She and a group of women lay down pins on places in New York to avoid and by the end, the entire map is covered. There are race and class issues latent in her video, too. She is black, and the women she gathers for her discussion group are all races. But you don’t leave with that icky impression of a white woman under assault by the big bad city. Plus, she has the group demonstrate the armor they wear while walking down the street, which turns into a glorious mosaic of bytch face.




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She had 2 guys in a 10 hour period stalk her basically. You dudes are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

I haven't had a person follow me for over a year much less TWICE in one day.

follow or stalk?..I believe there is a difference...also I thought being followed was something we all have to live with because during that zimmerman trial I was told repeatedly that following someone ain't a crime or wrong...now it is?!--:ohhh:...
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Women would find it annoying whether they perceived it as genuine or not. But, again, the sole purpose of saying hello is not necessarily to smash.
To a pretty woman, in the manner these dudes do, it is.

Why are you bringing up acts to old ladies and other dudes? Believe it or not, guys get 'what's up?'s and old ladies get 'good mornings' from random dudes on the street as well.

We're talking about specifically doing the act because it's an attractive woman. And there are times when guys will hold the door open for a pretty woman, she'll typically say 'thanks', and that'll be the end of it. By your logic, he struck out, when it wasn't really an attempt to holler.

Not at all. For starters, are you really telling me these dudes are saying hey to all other types of people with the same frequency they do pretty women? If not, why not?

This vid followed her, another vid could've just watched one block of bums, and if it did, I'd bet you see countless instances of chicks responding and the interaction ending there. People are social beings, and like to interact, and while attractiveness may drive the impetus for the interaction, it does not mean they are doing it to get laid.
Again though if it's all just about interacting with people why don't men "say hello" to everybody as much as we do pretty women?

I know you don't buy any of that, so consider this: walk around the mall with a cute toddler and look how many people greet her. You tryna tell me they're all pedos?
Of course I don't buy it. You are refuting basic human physiology. Humans are social creatures but we are also sexual creatures. Which of those characteristics is the bigger driver of male/female interactions like this?

And I wouldn't assume they are all pedos, because pedos are not as numerous in society as heterosexuals. Lets flip your question to show how silly it is. Walk around the mall with a pretty woman. You think men leering and greeting her are "just being friendly"? If that was your girl or your wife you wouldn't take a dude talking to her as disrespectful? If so, why? He was just being social :troll:
 

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follow or stalk?..I believe there is a difference...also I thought being followed was something we all have to live with because during that zimmerman trial I was told repeatedly that following someone ain't a crime or wrong...now it is?!--:ohhh:...
*still playing*

there is john crawford if trayvon was too long ago to remember...not too many people was upset by him being followed around Walmart by that fat dude that called 911...
 

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Never. God honest truth, I usually give a little hello (which is why I'm not offended by the "hello" like some women may be) and keep it moving. I don't know what type of women you (or dudes you know) approach, but I've never heard of a women reacting in such a manner just out of nowhere.

However, ya'll have to realize that just because you say hello, it doesn't mean that we're obligated to say hello back.

And just curious, why would someone not want to say Hi back?
 

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:usure: Not true. Especially since a lot of feminists have a problem with porn.

A lot of feminists do, a lot don't. Feminists dont all share the same exact beliefs

Can't thrown them all together :yeshrug:

Anyways. Being hollered at on the street isn't anything that I think should be illegal never mind trying to push for some sort of law. That shyt is going too far. it is something that bugs the shyt out of me and has definitely made me feel unsafe since I've been followed by men In cars, That IS legit harassment & stalking. Not yelling shyt at me.
 
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