Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

[Everythingg]

Anecdotal evidence isn't scientific. Can't be counted.

Scientists don't ignore dreams. There are studies on dreams. Plenty.

And thats the problem. You ignored peoples own experiences for stuff that science doesnt even want to seek out.

And yea I know they dont ignore dreams. But they do ignore spiritual matters. Which dreams can be tied into. As well as the other things that you seemed to gloss over.

 

[NoMayo15]

You missed what Mr. Shuttlesworth was explaining the thread I guess. All science does is relay facts about the physical world. NOTHING and I mean absolutely NOTHING wrong with trying to figure the physical world. But what about near death experiences? Or dreams? Or people that claim they have left their body and roamed the earth(astral travel)? Or people that claim to have connected with spirits? Nothing? Something? This is the area that atheists and scientists ignore. This would be the spiritual side of things. There is physical and there is spiritual. What seems to be going on today is that those in charge want people to lose their "spiritual selves" for their physical selves.

So where you have it wrong is simple. Just because ancients thought it was their god jupiter throwing bolts down from the clouds (and we obviously found that not to be the case) doesnt mean there isnt a Creator. Just that they had the wrong impression of the physical world. Another thing:

"The fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of scientists agree that the universe came about throwuh purely natural means.... including the creation of life on this planet"

What put the "natural means" that the universe came into being into place? Itself? Nothing?

Uh... no, scientists don't ignore these claims, actually. And in fact, none of those things, when tested under laboratory conditions, hold weight. No one who claims to have an out of body experience, can replicate it when it's actually tested. All those pseudoscience-y things are tested ALL THE TIME. In fact, James Randi is giving away a million dollars to anyone who can demonstrate paranormal or supernatural powers, and no one has yet to be successful. No one has been able to demonstrate that there actually is a "spiritual side". You've been conned into believing this, but most of these things are nothing more than parlor tricks.

As for there being a creator. You're just moving the goal post. The trend for the ignorant is "we don't know how X works, therefore Y-god is the cause". Your argument from ignorance is no different than those who believed in jupiter.

And yes. As far as we know, the laws are a function of the universe. They aren't controlled by some mastermind. They just... do. They do their jobs.

 

[Everythingg]

which god? Once you specify which one you are referring to (as humans make up thousands) I can vanquish the mythological being.

I know. This is what you need. You need the bible so you can point out contradictions. Or the Quran so you can point out that Muhammed was a pedophile. Or maybe the New testament so you can point out the additions/subtractions that were made in it

You said there is no God/Creator. So can you provide proof for your claim? You shouldnt need me to do anything for you to provide proof for the claim that you made right?

 

[noon]

And thats the problem. You ignored peoples own experiences for stuff that science doesnt even want to seek out.

It's a good job you don't run the science community.

 

[Everythingg]

It's a good job you don't run the science community.

Do you want my attention? I ask because you really arent providing any insight into anything. Just coming in and trying to harp on one point to cause an argument.

 

[noon]

Do you want my attention? I ask because you really arent providing any insight into anything. Just coming in and trying to harp on one point to cause an argument.

Hmm, I thought I addressed something different in each post I made to you.

If I wanted to harp on one point, I'd remind everyone constantly that you believe witches and sorcery are real.

 

[Everythingg]

Uh... no, scientists don't ignore these claims, actually. And in fact, none of those things, when tested under laboratory conditions, hold weight. No one who claims to have an out of body experience, can replicate it when it's actually tested. All those pseudoscience-y things are tested ALL THE TIME. In fact, James Randi is giving away a million dollars to anyone who can demonstrate paranormal or supernatural powers, and no one has yet to be successful. No one has been able to demonstrate that there actually is a "spiritual side". You've been conned into believing this, but most of these things are nothing more than parlor tricks.

As for there being a creator. You're just moving the goal post. The trend for the ignorant is "we don't know how X works, therefore Y-god is the cause". Your argument from ignorance is no different than those who believed in jupiter.

And yes. As far as we know, the laws are a function of the universe. They aren't controlled by some mastermind. They just... do. They do their jobs.

Yea I doubt it. And what I doubt is that people all across the world are making up anything and everything when it comes to spiritual matters. "No one can replicate out of body experiences"

Please bring the citation that exemplifies this as well as the explanation on how exactly science would measure whether someone was having a out of body experience. Im interested in this as I have tried to have one. Though unsuccessful, my body did vibrate for whatever thats worth.

You're the one that has been conned. You have shut down your spiritual side for your phsyical. This is exactly what the elite wants. People that are not spiritual. And trust, its in religions as well as outside of them that this is happening.

Laws are a function of the universe. But no one can explain how the laws got there and why the universe abides by them correct?

 

[Everythingg]

Hmm, I thought I addressed something different in each post I made to you.

If I wanted to harp on one point, I'd remind everyone constantly that you believe witches and sorcery are real.

Do you want my attention? I ask because you really arent providing any insight into anything. Just coming in and trying to harp on one point to cause an argument.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

I know. This is what you need. You need the bible so you can point out contradictions. Or the Quran so you can point out that Muhammed was a pedophile. Or maybe the New testament so you can point out the additions/subtractions that were made in it

You said there is no God/Creator. So can you provide proof for your claim? You shouldnt need me to do anything for you to provide proof for the claim that you made right?

There is no reason to believe there is one. The proof is look around... dont see em do you? You actually made it easier than it would have been if you woulda named a god.

outdid yourself this time lol

 

[noon]

Please bring the citation that exemplifies this as well as the explanation on how exactly science would measure whether someone was having a out of body experience. Im interested in this as I have tried to have one. Though unsuccessful, my body did vibrate for whatever thats worth.

Did you accidentally leave your electric toothbrush on in your pocket?

 

[NoMayo15]

And thats the problem. You ignored peoples own experiences for stuff that science doesnt even want to seek out.

And yea I know they dont ignore dreams. But they do ignore spiritual matters. Which dreams can be tied into. As well as the other things that you seemed to gloss over.

Or here you go Kings. How about studies on the effectiveness of prayer? You probably believe in the power of prayer, yes?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer

The largest and most scientifically rigorous study of prayer's efficacy, the 2006 STEP project, found no significant difference whether subjects were prayed for or not, except some negative effects among those who knew they were receiving prayers[2]. [...]

In comparison to other fields that have been scientifically studied, carefully monitored studies of prayer are relatively few. The field remains tiny, with about $5 million spent worldwide on such research each year.

So yeah, research is being done in these fields, in addition to other pseudoscience like tarot cards and talking to the dead. The fact of the matter is praying to god for something is as helpful as wearing a lucky shirt. Don't say science is avoiding, or not interested in these topics... that's just not true.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

There is no reason to believe there is one. The proof is look around... dont see em do you? You actually made it easier than it would have been if you woulda named a god.

outdid yourself this time lol

Do you see everything?

 

[Everythingg]

There is no reason to believe there is one. The proof is look around... dont see em do you? You actually made it easier than it would have been if you woulda named a god.

outdid yourself this time lol

Thats your support? And it took you this long to come up with it?

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Do you see everything?

I dont assume everything exists that I dont see. I also dont see a 3 legged giraffe with elephant tusks and wings like a bat. Are you suggesting it exists because I dont see it?

 

[Everythingg]

Did you accidentally leave your electric toothbrush on in your pocket?

Do you want my attention? I ask because you really arent providing any insight into anything. Just coming in and trying to harp on one point to cause an argument.