Why do some black people claim obviously mixed people as black?

[The Mad Titan]

Its wild because most southern black people are so mixed up, even though they look all the way "black" I have a friend who's grandmother is white and her grand dad is black and she looks just like a your typical black chick.

If posted a pic up right now and said she was mixed she'd get roasted to death.


The problem with african american's is that most of us not so distant forefathers are mixed all up. So you can claim mixed if you want and sound mad c00nish or you can claim black and technically your lying to your self factually. But by definition your not ( black a dark-skinned race)


So if a light skin mixed person say's they are black again by definition and factually they aren't.... but on socially especially in the US they seen as black for the most part.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

In Amerikkka, the rest of the world doesn't follow that bullshyt.

I disagree. You can see the change already even in Latin America.

Dark-Skinned Or Black? How Afro-Brazilians Are Forging A Collective Identity

If you want to get a sense of how complex racial identity is in Brazil, you should meet sisters Francine and Fernanda Gravina. Both have the same mother and father. Francine, 28, is blond with green eyes and white skin. She wouldn't look out of place in Iceland. But Fernanda, 23, has milk chocolate skin with coffee colored eyes and hair. Francine describes herself as white, whereas Fernanda says she's morena, or brown-skinned.

"We'd always get questions like, 'How can you be so dark skinned and she's so fair?'" Fernanda says. In fact, the sisters have German, Italian, African and indigenous ancestry. But in Brazil, Fernanda explains, people describe themselves by color, not race, since nearly everyone here is mixed.

All of that is to say, collecting demographic information in Brazil has been really tricky. The latest census, taken in 2010, found for the first time that Brazil has the most people of African descent outside Africa. No, this doesn't mean that Afro-Brazilian population suddenly, dramatically increased. Rather, the new figures reflect changing attitudes about race and skin color in Brazil.

"There is a totally different system here than in the U.S., where one drop of black blood makes you black independent of appearance," Petruccelli says. In Brazil, it's about how you'd like to classify yourself, and how others see you. The problem, he says, is that Afro-Brazilians have no sense of collective identity, which makes it difficult to address the very real problem of racism and racial inequality in the country.

But lately, that's starting to change, and the black pride movement in Brazil is growing. On a recent morning at the beach in Rio de Janeiro, a march celebrating black women in Brazil started with with dancing and singing. One of the demonstrators, Jurema Werneck, who works at Criolla, an advocacy group for black women, says the goal of the march is to show that Brazil is a black nation, largely populated black and African Brazilians. "We need to fight racism and not to hide it," Werneck says.


She's been participating in the black pride movement for over 15 years. And it seems to be working, she says, because the number of people self identifying as pardo or preto surged in the latest census.

And more importantly, lawmakers are beginning to pay more attention to issues of inequality. Brazil now has an affirmative action program for higher education. Before the program launched, only seven percent of Afro-Brazilians went to college. Now it's about 15 percent, and the numbers are growing.

Werneck says the black pride movement is also lobbying to change the next census in 2020 to include the word black. Pardo and preto, she says, are euphemisms. Afro-Brazilians should take a cue from African-Americans, she says, and broadcast to society that they're black and proud.

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As the IBGE itself acknowledges, these categories are disputed, and most of the population dislike it and do not identify with them.[49]:1 Most Brazilians see "Indígena" as a cultural rather than racial term, and don't describe as such if they are part of the mainstream Brazilian culture; many Brazilians would prefer to self-describe as "morenos" (used in the sense of "tanned" or "brunettes");[50] some Black and parda people, more identified with the Brazilian Black movement, would prefer to self-describe as "Negro" as an inclusive category containing pardos and pretos;[49]:2 and if allowed to choose any classification, Brazilians will give almost 200 different answers.[49]:4

According to the American scholar Edward Telles,[51] in Brazil there are three different systems related to "racial classification" along the White-Black continuum.[52]:80–81 The first is the Census System, which distinguishes three categories: "branco" (White), "pardo", and "preto" (Black).[52]:81 The second is the popular system that uses many different categories, including the ambiguous term "moreno"[52]:82 ("tanned", "brunette", or "with an olive complexion").[53] The third is the Black movement system that distinguishes only two categories, summing up "pardos" and "pretos" as "negros".[52]: More recently, the term "afrodescendente" has been brought into use.[54]

Race and ethnicity in Brazil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Is it because they are attracted to none black features but are ashamed to admit it?

Let's do this. OP: did your family come through American chattel slavery?

If so, do you think you're 100% African?

If not, what percent do you think you are and what's the minimum percentage to still be considered 'Black' instead of 'mixed'?

If you don't want to give simple answers to these questions then just ignore this post, please. Goes for anyone reading this.

 

[OD-MELA]

**compares Idi's skin tone to his hair**


Nope, he's still dark brown, literally speaking but he is a "black" man

you don't know what you're talking about. Millions of africans are black! Wtf
Sudan, Gambia, Northern Uganda, Kenya etc there are tribes from these places whose skin is literally black.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

The sad part about all this is either side of the fence your on in this debate it supports white supremacy in some way

 

[IllmaticDelta]

you don't know what you're talking about. Millions of africans are black! Wtf
Sudan, Gambia, Northern Uganda, Kenya etc there are tribes from these places whose skin is literally black.

they aren't black like--->

they are dark brown

 

[OD-MELA]

You seem to think there's something wrong with being black skinned?

 

[iBrowse]

*plays one dance*

I didn't know you listened to music. Do you by chance dance?

 

[Citi Trends]

Let's do this. OP: did your family come through American chattel slavery?

If so, do you think you're 100% African?

If not, what percent do you think you are and what's the minimum percentage to still be considered 'Black' instead of 'mixed'?

If you don't want to give simple answers to these questions then just ignore this post, please. Goes for anyone reading this.

lol i agree
we need to appreciate all black beauty. who decides this cutoff

#blackwomangoddess #blackisbeautiful

 

[Momentum]

Neg me for what? For saying that light skinned and mixed race people are actually Black. STFU bytch nikka

The One Drop rule as we now know it didn't exist during slavery

none of my parents or grandparents look like this

 

[Concerning VIolence]

Yep sounds like he was pro-equality not black to me..

"I am on God's side"

He was being spiritual, you dummy. Forget he was religious? He was pro-black and pan-african. Rastas by default are pro-black.

 

[Concerning VIolence]

+10 rep if I could. I swear these nikkas be preoccupied with the most useless shyt. And they think shyt like this is "pro-black" too when they're just being divisive

"Michelle's daughters aren't black"




Yeah because they're so obviously white.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Ok, youre not Black but mixed then since youre 25% cac..happy now.

You do know that mix on the chart was for the dark skinned brother in the video right?

Poster was proving that people have no fukking clue what black is. You'd look at him and say "he's black"

But according to his dna he's 25% white but none of his parents were white and he's dark yet he's still 25% white


So is he black or mixed?



See why this is stupid? You cannot possibly tell what % someone is from looking at them or their parents. And yet we are going to walk the streets with clip boards, telling people what race they are

 

[Prince Mongo]

"Michelle's daughters aren't black"




Yeah because they're so obviously white.

Wtf are you talking about?

 

[Concerning VIolence]

Wtf are you talking about?

mocking coli geneticists.