WBC/IBF RANKINGS! NEW SYSTEM! LEAGUE!

[producingfire]

I agree. We need to get the mods to sticky battles in the booth section to gain more attention and votes.

But they wouldn't be able to sticky all the battles in the booth. That was the plan originally but, I don't think it's doable. or am I wrong @TEKBEATZ ?

 

[AkaDemiK]

But they wouldn't be able to sticky all the battles in the booth. That was the plan originally but, I don't think it's doable. or am I wrong @TEKBEATZ ?

Sticky like 2-3 different battles every 2 days or so out of the week till all the beats get enough time to gather more votes...it could work

 

[DBR]

Any word from @DBR ?

Sorry breh shyt been really wild those last day .. anyway been able to cook something i send you the link , feel free to start the thread if you want to or il create one , what ever sorry to the homie @MichaelWhite for the delay...

 

[KillSpray]

Sticky like 2-3 different battles every 2 days or so out of the week till all the beats get enough time to gather more votes...it could work

The sticky's in the booth are cool, but we need to get our shyt together first, so when we invite them in they're not seeing us tripping over ourselves trying to sort shyt out. Let's keep tweaking, it might take a couple more trial and errors to fine tune. Once we get that down, I think the key thing is to try to pull in a few (maybe 5-10) non-producers who would be down to get involved just as consistent voters. People like @LauderdaleBoss who just show support to the whole concept, but aren't producers. Because producers judging producers is cool, but it's sometimes even better to get the ears of the more casual listener/MC's and others too.

 

[MichaelWhite]

Sorry breh shyt been really wild those last day .. anyway been able to cook something i send you the link , feel free to start the thread if you want to or il create one , what ever sorry to the homie @MichaelWhite for the delay...

I'll post the battle today. I promise not to listen to your track before I post. Is this a PPV card or a spar?

 

[DBR]

I'll post the battle today. I promise not to listen to your track before I post. Is this a PPV card or a spar?

Since i call you out in the wbc thread i guess its a ppv battle but we can spar as well if you want to ...

 

[MichaelWhite]

Since i call you out in the wbc thread i guess its a ppv battle but we can spar as well if you want to ...

PPV it is!! I'll put the thread up in a few!

 

[Sincere Noble]

So have we come to a agreement on this?

Do you have to have a certain amount of matches battled/fought before you can challenge for the title?

Should we create a sticked thread where everyone's record is up for show at all times and rank it that way?

 

[producingfire]

we have over 30 people so keeping records would be difficult, it would turn into boxing mixed with BCS quality wins.Vs non quality wins based on the IBF. Arguably the WBC all has quality producers in it so it wouldn't be a problem. Stating your claim as to why you feel you deserve a title shot keep a record of your wins when you negotiate that way both parties can have the same amount of time to negotiate with the champion. Worse case scenario if there is a descrepency you can easily solve that with another battle. One extra battle won't kill anyone. But having even a few people keep up with all the records of each individuals updating that every week... it seems like that would defeat itself.

 

[KillSpray]

Proposed Changes to the WBC/IBF Divisions:

• Rank system

1. There has to be a rank system, one that shows the best and worst beat makers in each division based on wins/losses. Without a rank system there is chaos, there will be no proper understanding of who the best beat makers are and challenging opponents/champions will turn into a race instead of being earned.
2. The Ranks should be updated every week, specifically every Sunday. (I say once a month, less work, and more chance for people to battle.)
3. Anyone ranked between 2nd-6th can only challenge those in that specific range. Anyone ranked 7th can challenge guys ranging from 5-11. Anyone ranked 8th and below can only challenge those ranked 7th-11th.
4. You need to have a minimum of 4 wins to challenge for the title. Also, only those ranked 2nd-6th can challenge for the title and priority goes to the guy with the best record who is next in line for a shot at the belt.
5. You can only challenge once per month for the title. If you lose you will have to wait till the month before issuing another challenge. Also, because of rule #4 if you were ranked 2nd and lost to the champion, you will have to wait till the the guys ranked 3rd-6th get a shot (why not just have the loser in a championship battle drop to at least 6th automatically) in that month, that is if you are still ranked in the top 6 after losing, if not you have to fight your way back up before challenging for the title. Also, because of the wait you may not be able to challenge for the title for more than a month, this puts added pressure on each competitor to be at their best every week.
6. Title holders are required to defend their belts once per month. This is to prevent the title from being passed around every week. Being ranked #1 gives you a chance to rest for 3 weeks out of a month, you worked hard for it so you've earned that right.
7. The first month of competition will feature no champion in either division. Everyone has to battle during this month and at the end whoever has the best record in either division will be crowned champion. (So does this mean everything will reset, or will we keep our records up to now?)

• Battles

1. Each competitor should be required to battle at least once per week (except the tile holders) to keep each division active. (This might be too much, that would bring us back to having the tunnel flooded with 10+ battles every week. We should be having a max of like 5 battles per week)
2. Each battle should be active for a week. They should also be stickied/first page'd for the week and then locked after the week concludes (set thread option to lock after 7 days).
3. Each battle should be the first to 15 or 20 votes. 15 votes for normal bouts and 20 for championship bouts.
4. Battles should only be posted by a 3rd party (ppl running the competition) not by the participants in the bout. (We need someone to volunteer for this if this is gonna be the case). This makes it more professional and the author of the thread can add some story to the battle as they see fit.
5. Each competitor has a set date to send their beat to the 3rd party in charge of creating the thread for the bout. If 48 hrs passed without an explanation then the battle is cancelled and the person who was late will be suspended from battling for a week.
6. Every battle counts towards your rank, unless it's a spar.
7. Each competitor is required to vote onat least one battle per week. No exceptions.

• Divisions

1. Both the WBC and the IBF should be tiered based. Each division should have one champion ranked 1st, Contenders ranked 2nd-6th and Challengers ranked 7th and below. Each tier will have rules tied to them like I previously mentioned.
2. You can lose your position in your division. WBC competitors ranked 7th and below can be challenged by those ranked 2nd-6th in the IBF. If the WBC competitor loses he will be sent to the IBF and ranked based on his current record. If the IBC competitor wins he will be sent to the WBC and ranked based on his current record, if he loses he will stay in the IBF and move up/down based on his record.
3. The IBF champion has to successfully defend his belt 2 times before he can move on to the WBC where he will occupy a rank based on his record. The person at the bottom of the WBC will be moved to IBF and occupy a rank based on his record.

• Weekly Cards and Monthly PPV's

1. Regular cards will take place during the first 3 weeks of a month with the final week being the PPV.
2. Cards and PPV's will be posted 8pm on Sundays and will be closed 12:00 am on Sunday the following week.
3. Cards will consist of one Main Event and 5 Under-card bouts. (I'd say 4 undercard bouts, with the option for 5)
4. Main Events are battles between the 2nd and 3rd ranked competitors. Under-cards are battles between the guys ranked 4th and below.
5. Main Events will be the first to 20 votes and the Under-Card will be the first to 15.
6. PPV's will consist of one Main Event and 5 Under-Card bouts. The title can only be defended at a PPV event.
7. Each competitor has to compete in at least one Card per month or they will be removed from competing in future events (except the title holder).
8. PPV will only contain battles between those in the Contender tiers (including title match).
9. Cards will contain battles between those in the Contender and Challenger tiers.

WBC

@producingfire

@KushSkywalker

@TEKBEATZ

@Sincere Noble

@bigrodthe1

@DBR

@AkaDemiK

@MichaelWhite

@PUT IN WORK

@901Cory10

@Chubbs

IBF

@Bruh Man 5th Flo

@KillSpray

@Todd McPiff

@Zeu$

@silver

@BlackDroog

@LauderdaleBoss

@J_Nathan

@Kwilu

@Erebus

@illwittdeez

Is this everyone? If so that's exactly 22 competitors with 11 in each division. These are the guys I have seen battle recently or the ones I know that are active, I think we should leave it at this.

Fellas do you agree or disagree with my changes if so please leave some feedback so we can polish up this new system to perfection.

salute

Great stuff, I put my feedback in parenthesis next to the bolded. Also we should have an automatic match making system when cards are not filled by volunteers. So if cards go up at Sunday @ 8pm Est, say we have a matchmaking deadline on Thursday @ 8pm. After that, the guys who haven't battled yet (or in that month) will be randomly paired up with someone else who needs a match to fill out the rest of the card for that week.

We can just have a list of basic match types, sample, trap, dark, original composition (no samples), etc... That we randomly assign to them.

 

[AkaDemiK]

Great stuff, I put my feedback in parenthesis next to the bolded. Also we should have an automatic match making system when cards are not filled by volunteers. So if cards go up at Sunday @ 8pm Est, say we have a matchmaking deadline on Thursday @ 8pm. After that, the guys who haven't battled yet (or in that month) will be randomly paired up with someone else who needs a match to fill out the rest of the card for that week.

We can just have a list of basic match types, sample, trap, dark, original composition (no samples), etc... That we randomly assign to them.

Thanks for the feedback homie. I like the bolded, but I was thinking about how guys go over the submission deadline frequently and Weds would be better suited for the matchmaking deadline, to give them more time. However I would rather if everyone knows if they are battling on Sunday and have a full week to make their beats. Also, the original WBC/IBF was implemented to remove matches that were randomly generated in place of a challenge oriented system, I wanted to keep that but use tiers in each division to separate the guys so they can only battle certain guys till their records get better.

About the match types (sample, trap, dark, original composition) we could do that on a weekly basis. It's 4 weeks in a month and those are 4 different types of beats. Simply assign each match type to a week and go from there. I would also add ethnic/fusion as a choice and have it something like Sample, Trap, Dark, Original/Ethnic/Fusion. We can swap them around every month to keep it fresh.

The Ranks should be updated every week, specifically every Sunday. (I say once a month, less work, and more chance for people to battle.)

I see what you're saying about giving everyone a chance to battle. I'm fine with Once a month...I guess it would be more suspenseful that way.

You can only challenge once per month for the title. If you lose you will have to wait till the month before issuing another challenge. Also, because of rule #4 if you were ranked 2nd and lost to the champion, you will have to wait till the the guys ranked 3rd-6th get a shot (why not just have the loser in a championship battle drop to at least 6th automatically)

The reason I didn't say drop the loser to 6th is because he may stilll have a better record than another guy in the top 6. This would be my work around to making sure that the other guys in the top 6 get a title shot before someone who lost in a championship bout.

The first month of competition will feature no champion in either division. Everyone has to battle during this month and at the end whoever has the best record in either division will be crowned champion. (So does this mean everything will reset, or will we keep our records up to now?)

I would rather keep the current records because we have been using the WBC/IBF system to match ppl accordingly and there have been some great battles and beats because of it. It wouldn't be fair to throw those matches in the bushes. The only issue is it being the 20th, the month ends next week and a lot of ppl haven't battles yet (which is why I went and thought up these new ideas). We need to get more ppl battling to get champions, contenders and challengers (tiers) ranked properly and to have a PPV with the right guys. If this system were be implemented we would have to delay the PPV till the end of next month to get everyone involved.

Battles should only be posted by a 3rd party (ppl running the competition) not by the participants in the bout. (We need someone to volunteer for this if this is gonna be the case)

True. I would have no problem volunteering for this, I'd love to do it (except for my own battles). All we need is one or two guys and we're good money...

 

[KillSpray]

Thanks for the feedback homie. I like the bolded, but I was thinking about how guys go over the submission deadline frequently and Weds would be better suited for the matchmaking deadline, to give them more time. However I would rather if everyone knows if they are battling on Sunday and have a full week to make their beats. Also, the original WBC/IBF was implemented to remove matches that were randomly generated in place of a challenge oriented system, I wanted to keep that but use tiers in each division to separate the guys so they can only battle certain guys till their records get better.

About the match types (sample, trap, dark, original composition) we could do that on a weekly basis. It's 4 weeks in a month and those are 4 different types of beats. Simply assign each match type to a week and go from there. I would also add ethnic/fusion as a choice and have it something like Sample, Trap, Dark, Original/Ethnic/Fusion. We can swap them around every month to keep it fresh.



I see what you're saying about giving everyone a chance to battle. I'm fine with Once a month...I guess it would be more suspenseful that way.



The reason I didn't say drop the loser to 6th is because he may stilll have a better record than another guy in the top 6. This would be my work around to making sure that the other guys in the top 6 get a title shot before someone who lost in a championship bout.


I would rather keep the current records because we have been using the WBC/IBF system to match ppl accordingly and there have been some great battles and beats because of it. It wouldn't be fair to throw those matches in the bushes. The only issue is it being the 20th, the month ends next week and a lot of ppl haven't battles yet (which is why I went and thought up these new ideas). We need to get more ppl battling to get champions, contenders and challengers (tiers) ranked properly and to have a PPV with the right guys. If this system were be implemented we would have to delay the PPV till the end of next month to get everyone involved.



True. I would have no problem volunteering for this, I'd love to do it (except for my own battles). All we need is one or two guys and we're good money...

Ok cool, so if no one else has anything I think these guidelines are good money.

On the randomly generated match point, the league will still be challenge based and the random match ups will only be used if in a week there aren't enough challenges to fill a card. Remember, we need to make sure everyone gets at least a match per month for ranking purposes, so for the more shy members, they need to be compelled into matches. It's just an emergency switch type of thing.

 

[AkaDemiK]

Ok cool, so if no one else has anything I think these guidelines are good money.

On the randomly generated match point, the league will still be challenge based and the random match ups will only be used if in a week there aren't enough challenges to fill a card. Remember, we need to make sure everyone gets at least a match per month for ranking purposes, so for the more shy members, they need to be compelled into matches. It's just an emergency switch type of thing.

aight cool...i'm with it.

@producingfire I know you were one of the guys who helped to introduce this boxing format and I don't want to side step on anyone's toes...just trying to help tweak this. Do you have any disagreements or adjustments to my proposal? if not we can update the first post and get everyone up to speed on what we plan to do.

 

[Sincere Noble]

the only purpose of the challenge thing was to have guys that could make the battles do so at thier own lesiure and not be forced to battle

 

[AkaDemiK]

the only purpose of the challenge thing was to have guys that could make the battles do so at thier own lesiure and not be forced to battle

Doing this will have us see a huge drop off in battles and this section of the forum will die out. It's cool to post your new beats for others to listen to and critique but my fav. part of coming into the tunnel is seeing the next new battle. If we leave it up to guys to battle when they feel like then it's going to be a wrap eventually for the tunnel in terms of activity.

I want this section to thrive and become way more active. This boxing-esque system is the way to go and the ideas I proposed could help that system flourish.