Using US-provided equip, Iraqi forces attack Kurdish city of Kirkuk (US-backed Kurds)

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fukkING Kurds got fukked

PUK and KDP still beefing til the very end. They're content with splitting their shares of a graveyard

Iraqi Shia with that checkmate

Oppress the Sunnis
Force the Sunnis to turn to ISIS
Let ISIS fukk the Sunnis
Allow Intl forces to intervene
In the ensuing war of liberation, ethnically cleanse the Sunnis
Let the Kurds get ahead of thenselves
Cut deals with Turkey and Iran and then smash the Kurds

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Labaikk ya Hussein

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reminds me of this....ahhh the good ol days

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Can you explain

Alot of PUK man dem were not fukking with the referendum at all, and it has nothing to do with their views on independence.

They saw it as a Barzani ego boost and power move. They knew it would unite their enemies and leave them isolated. The Americans let it be known they weren't going to defend them.

Kirkuk is traditionally a PUK stronghold... They probably didn't want to be caught in the crossfire of some bullshyt they didn't want no part of in the first place

Remember that the PUK have had more of a pro Iranian bent historically, and these Kurds hate each others guts. The KDP even clicked up with Saddam to double team the PUK during their civil war

Side deal was cut, Iraq restorates pre ISIS order, may even be better... PUK gets to humble Barzani

KDP got sonned. They have no choice but to back down after all that talk

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Kurdish Women’s Militia Vows to Keep Fighting Islamic State
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
October 19, 2017, 6:00 AM EDT October 19, 2017, 8:32 AM EDT
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Soldiers of the Women's Protection Units (YPJ) take aim during fighting with the Islamic State in its Syrian stronghold of Raqqa, Aug. 12, 2017.

Photographer: Morukc Umnaber/Morukc Umnaber/picture-alliance/dpa/AP Images
Beirut (AP) -- A Kurdish female militia that took part in freeing the northern Syrian city of Raqqa from the Islamic State group said Thursday it will continue the fight to liberate women from the extremists' brutal rule.


Nisreen Abdullah of the Women's Protection Units, or YPJ, read a statement in Raqqa's Paradise Square, where IS fighters once carried out public killings. She said the all-women force lost 30 fighters in the four-month battle.


Under Islamic State rule, women were forced to wear all-encompassing veils and could be stoned to death for adultery. Hundreds of women and girls from Iraq's Yazidi minority were captured and forced into sexual slavery.


"We have achieved our goal, which was to pound the strongholds of terrorism in its capital, liberate women and restore honor to Yazidi women by liberating dozens of slaves," Abdullah said.


The Syrian Democratic Forces, a coalition of several factions including the YPJ, said Tuesday that military operations in Raqqa have ended and that their fighters have taken full control of the city.

The spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition, Col. Ryan Dillon, tweeted Thursday that the SDF has cleared 98 percent of the city, adding that some militants remain holed up in a small pocket east of the stadium. Dillon added that buildings and tunnels are being checked for holdouts.

The SDF is expected to hold a news conference in central Raqqa on Friday during which the city will be declared free of extremists for the first time in nearly four years.

The fall of Raqqa marks a major defeat for IS, which has seen its self-styled Islamic caliphate steadily shrink since last year. IS took over Raqqa, located on the Euphrates River, in January 2014, and transformed it into the epicenter of its brutal rule.


Kurdish Women’s Militia Vows to Keep Fighting Islamic State

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Hmmm Shia v Kurds? Iranian proxy v Israeli proxy. Let them wipe each other out. :yeshrug:
 

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Invade Iraq and not expect Iran to take advantage brehs

Iraqi Army and militias are there to stay in Kirkuk and the areas liberated from ISIS. The Pentagon can't do anything about the Iranian-backed militias entrenched with the Iraqi Army. The Iraqis need them.

Alot of PUK man dem were not fukking with the referendum at all, and it has nothing to do with their views on independence.

They saw it as a Barzani ego boost and power move. They knew it would unite their enemies and leave them isolated. The Americans let it be known they weren't going to defend them.

Kirkuk is traditionally a PUK stronghold... They probably didn't want to be caught in the crossfire of some bullshyt they didn't want no part of in the first place

Remember that the PUK have had more of a pro Iranian bent historically, and these Kurds hate each others guts. The KDP even clicked up with Saddam to double team the PUK during their civil war

Side deal was cut, Iraq restorates pre ISIS order, may even be better... PUK gets to humble Barzani

KDP got sonned. They have no choice but to back down after all that talk

:heh:

Yup. The Iraqi Kurds are very divided. Now Iraqi Kurdistan is back to 2003 border.

Kirkuk redux was a bloodless offensive. Here’s why
Not only are the Kurds in Iraq eternally riven, but the KRG knows it needs its oil pipeline to Turkey to remain open. And then there is the role played by a certain Iranian negotiator to consider
By PEPE ESCOBAR OCTOBER 17, 2017 6:23 PM (UTC+8)
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Artillery belonging to the Iraqi Security Forces reaches Kirkuk, Iraq, on October 17, 2017. Photo: Reuters / Alaa Al-Marjani

The Battle of Kirkuk lasted less than 24 hours. In a lightning – and mostly bloodless – offensive, the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) retook control of the North Oil Co. and North Gas Co. headquarters, the K1 military base, the Bai Hassan oil field, and two domes of the Kirkuk oil field on Monday.

Baghdad did what it had previously said it would do: reestablish federal authority over the key strategic assets of Kirkuk province, which had been controlled by the Kurdish Peshmerga since the 2014 Islamic State offensive.


But why did it take only 24 hours? There are two main reasons. One, the eternal, internal split between the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), led by wily tribal schemer Masoud Barzani, and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) party of the late Jalal Talabani; and two, a brokered deal for Baghdad’s advance. 
The Kurdish Peshmerga described the takeover as “a flagrant declaration of war” and vowed that Baghdad will pay a “heavy price.” That’s largely rhetorical.

The Pentagon – which has 10,000 US troops still in Iraq and is allied with Baghdad in the fight against ISIS but kept close links with the Kurds during the 2003-2008 occupation years – has been essentially helpless. The “coalition” the Pentagon essentially leads against ISIS insisted clashes between Peshmerga and Iraqi government forces were a mere “misunderstanding,” and stressed it is not supporting any of the belligerents.

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Members of Iraq’s security forces advance on Kirkuk on October 16, 2017. Photo: Reuters

How did we get here? Follow the oil.

Kirkuk province was occupied by the Peshmerga in 2014 as the Iraqi Army collapsed and ISIS occupied Mosul and its environs.

The KRG has been autonomous, in practice, ever since Daddy Bush imposed a no-fly zone on Saddam Hussein’s Iraq after the 1990-91 Gulf War. It is composed of three provinces: Sulaymaniya, Erbil and Dohuk. Annexing Kirkuk is pure wishful thinking.

Still, Kirkuk was included in the recent referendum on independence (92% said “yes”), which Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has repeatedly stated violated the Iraqi constitution as the Kurds “chose their personal interests over Iraq’s interests.”

Kirkuk is largely mixed: there are Kurds, Arabs (both Sunni and Shi’ite), Turkmen and Assyrian Christians. Historically, Kurds consider Kirkuk as “our Jerusalem” and refuse the 1960s-1970s “Arabization” that made it more Iraqi.

What makes matters even more complex is that for the past three years Baghdad has had no choice but to use the new Kurdish route for its exports to Turkey, even as it brands Kurdish oil exports illegal

The 2005 Iraqi constitution – with predominant Shi’ite and Kurdish input, and largely influenced by Washington – included the possibility of a referendum in Kirkuk. This referendum never happened. What happened after 2014 was some “soft” ethnic cleansing by Barzani: nearly three million non-Kurds were “encouraged” to flee Kirkuk province.

The holy of the holies, once again, is oil. Kurdistan’s energy reserves are estimated at around 45 billion barrels of oil and 150 trillion cubic meters of gas. Both the KRG and Baghdad each export roughly 565,000 barrels of oil a day to the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan in Turkey – not far off the volume of OPEC member Qatar. Major clients are Israel and Germany, with Turkey only in sixth place. The KRG’s fields are largely operated by foreigners such as Genel and Gulf Keystone, in addition to Gazprom, Rosneft and Chevron.

There’s no Route B for Kurdish energy exports. When the Baghdad oil route was seized by ISIS in 2014, the Peshmerga captured several oil fields around Kirkuk and the KRG built its own alternative pipeline to the Turkish border.

What makes matters even more complex is that for the past three years Baghdad has had no choice but to use the new Kurdish route for its exports to Turkey, even as it brands Kurdish oil exports illegal. Now Baghdad is vowing to immediately rebuild the federal pipeline, totally bypassing Kurdistan.

So the KRG, to survive, depends on the oil-to-Turkey connection. In the wake of the referendum, their situation is beyond critical. Ankara has been adamant: don’t even think about independence. Erdogan has all but spelled out that he could shut down the pipeline at any minute. Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag has announced the closure of Turkish airspace to the KRG, stressed Iraqi territorial integrity, qualified the referendum as illegal, and endorsed Baghdad’s offensive on Kirkuk. Tehran has also given its backing to Baghdad imposing a full land and air blockade on the KRG.

Soleimani did it
The non-Battle of Kirkuk featured only a few clashes between the ISF and the Peshmerga. A key reason is the internal Kurdish split. The Peshmerga actually accused a faction of the PUK of “plotting” against the Kurds and of committing “a great and historic treason.”

Barzani – technically the commander-in-chief of all Kurdish armed forces – did see the writing on the wall. He ordered the Peshmerga not to attack the ISF, only to react, “using every power,” according to his assistant Hemin Hawrami.

Prime Minister al-Abadi took no time to appoint an Arab politician, the current leader of the Arabic Council in Kirkuk Rakan Saeed, to replace Kurdish Najmaldin Karim as the governor of the province. Al-Abadi had previously instructed the ISF to “cooperate with the Peshmerga and avoid confrontations, and to protect all civilians.”

The going really gets tough when it comes to the role of the Hashd al-Shaabi, the People Mobilization Units (PMUs) that fight side by side with the ISF.

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Masoud Barzani speaks during a news conference in Erbil, Iraq on September 24, 2017. Photo: Reuters / Azad Lashkari

Karim Nuri, a commander with the Hashd al-Shaabi, told Kurdish news agency Rudaw that anyone fighting against the ISF is “the same as ISIS.”

Enter the nefarious Zalmay Khalilzad, a.k.a. “Bush’s Afghan” and former US Ambassador to Iraq, furiously tweeting that Iran’s “IRGC-backed militia led by terrorist Mahdi Mohandis has begun an assault on Kirkuk.” Mohandis is the deputy head of Hashd al-Shaabi.

Khalilzad is spinning a narrative that will be digested as fact all across the Beltway – that the PMUs are “using Abrams tanks provided by the US to the Iraqi armed forces against the Peshmerga.” He even asked Trump, rhetorically: “Shouldn’t we disable these tanks to prevent their use by Quds force proxies?”

Shwan Shamerani, commander of the Peshmerga’s second brigade in Kirkuk, actually doubled down, stating that “the Iraqi army and the Hashd al-Shaabi are not the only state that are attacking us. We have intelligence with 100 percent accuracy that there are also the Iranian army and the Revolutionary Guards among them.”

A Hashd al-Shaabi operative clarified that the PMUs especially want to protect the Shi’ite majority areas of Kirkuk. Half of the Turkmen who also claim Kirkuk are Shi’ites; Turkmen are currently about 10% of a total population of 1.2 million.

The key, irrefutable fact on the ground is that the PMUs work side by side with the ISF. And there’s nothing the Pentagon can do about it

He stressed that the Hashd al-Shaabi take their orders from Baghdad – from Hadi al-Amiri, the head of the Badr organization, which is loosely linked with the IRGC, and from Mohandis, the commander of the PMUs, but not from Iran. “We had hoped that we would get support from neighboring countries but this didn’t happen,” he said. “We get all our equipment from the central government.”

The key, irrefutable fact on the ground is that the PMUs work side by side with the ISF. And there’s nothing the Pentagon can do about it.
The impotence of the US$1 trillion US Warfare State is reflected in Pentagon spokeswoman Laura Seal’s wording: despite the KRG’s “unfortunate decision to pursue a unilateral referendum… we continue to support a unified Iraq.”

And that leads us to the definitive answer to why the Battle of Kirkuk was essentially bloodless, as Asia Times confirmed with Baghdad diplomats. It has to do with Washington’s supreme bête noire: Tehran.

Qassem Soleimani, the head of the IRGC’s elite Quds Force, is considered a “terrorist” all across the Beltway. But it was this “terrorist” who brokered a complex deal between the PUK, the PMUs and Baghdad to make the Kirkuk takeover as smooth as possible. Way beyond the fight against ISIS, Soleimani has been a master negotiator with Sunnis, Shi’ites and Kurds alike – no distinctions. No wonder Barzani had to retreat. No one wanted an Iraqi civil war.

What we have just witnessed is the near breakout of warfare between two alleged US “clients” in Southwest Asia. And yet civil war – along with the balkanization of Iraq – was prevented. The facts on the ground speak for themselves.
 
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