These GAY AZZ GAZA DUDES are destorying what little DIGNITY dancehall music contains.

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Since the 60s when the politician gave the ghetto youths guns and money to form political gangs...

One symbol was the fist, namely PNP; the other was the peace sign (the irony) namely JLP...

This, during the times of Rocksteady (spearheaded by Alton Ellis who loved dancehall btw) that movement was the antithesis to the Rudie culture,

u fukking eediot (idiot) fassyminded yute :russ:

those WERE NOT gang signs! :comeon:

They were nothing more than POLITICAL GESTURES.....

the Fist in the air or the fist pump was the PNP aligning themselves with the Black Power movements that were happening across the western hemisphere during the late 60's......inspired by Malcom X's backing of the Castro Regime of Cuba which also happen to be the main advocate of the PNP's socialist stance .............

in response the JLP camp led by pro-american imperialists like Edward Seaga (eddie cia) placed the "PEACE SIGN" upon posters and billboards as thier appeal to the passive conservative ranks of the country, which sought to suppress the MILITANCY inspired by the PNP in the ghetto areas.....

the PNP and JLP are political parties u buffoon......

ur argument would have been stronger if you would have named the "gangs" aligned with them such as the SHOWER POSSE and the SPANGLERS but neither of them had ANY FUKKING GANG SIGNS either...

it was just their colors that identified them...

green for the SHOWER POSSE............reddish orange for SPANGLER

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How much difference between is there between a gang sign, handshake, or political gesture nothing all denote allegiance to a political ideology, a tribe a gang or a group lets not split hairs now.

If we go back into the times of the Twa people you would see that fist raised high, let's not break one another down let us build each other up.
 

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How much difference between is there between a gang sign, handshake, or political gesture nothing all denote allegiance to a political ideology, a tribe a gang or a group lets not split hairs now.

If we go back into the times of the Twa people you would see that fist raised high, let's not break one another down let us build each other up.


A "gang sign" denotes Exclusivity, where as a political gesture expresses the desire to call more people into your movement or ideology that your promoting..

Gang Signs much like Fraternal Signs (dst, aka, sigma) main purpose is to IDENTIFY those who are aligned exclusively to that particular movement....

unlike Political Gestures.....

for example NOT JUST ANYBODY can give the sign of a M.M of the Masonic rank.......nor the sign of an Eastern Star they are synonomous with thier PASSWORDS denoting IDENTIFICATION.....

the poltical parties known as the JLP and PNP were NOT doing that..they wanted to include as many followers as they could...so it doesn't make sense for them to "THROW UP GANG SIGNS"...

and as far as the Jamaican "Gangs" themselves known as Posses..THEY HAD NO NEED FOR THAT either....

thier colors alone with thier assocations and garrison (turf) identified them............

gang signs is just some Yankee Bwoi characteristic.....

Rivoli know not a ting about garrison politics inna yard

cause he's probally too busy finding a "sexy outfit" to wear to his next Gaza affilated bashment party :laugh:

bumbahole gone mad
 

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A "gang sign" denotes Exclusivity, where as a political gesture expresses the desire to call more people into your movement or ideology that your promoting..

Gang Signs much like Fraternal Signs (dst, aka, sigma) main purpose is to IDENTIFY those who are aligned exclusively to that particular movement....

unlike Political Gestures.....

for example NOT JUST ANYBODY can give the sign of a M.M of the Masonic rank.......nor the sign of an Eastern Star they are synonomous with thier PASSWORDS denoting IDENTIFICATION.....

the poltical parties known as the JLP and PNP were NOT doing that..they wanted to include as many followers as they could...so it doesn't make sense for them to "THROW UP GANG SIGNS"...

and as far as the Jamaican "Gangs" themselves known as Posses..THEY HAD NO NEED FOR THAT either....

thier colors alone with thier assocations and garrison (turf) identified them............

gang signs is just some Yankee Bwoi characteristic.....

Rivoli know not a ting about garrison politics inna yard

cause he's probally too busy finding a "sexy outfit" to wear to his next Gaza affilated bashment party :laugh:

bumbahole gone mad

Hotep brother, I know what your saying and you are right for classifying, but I was merely pointing out that all political hand gestures et al are communication devices, the same as flags and uniforms are.

Case of semantics here.

I wouldn't sweat the Gaza ting someting else soon come seen.
 

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Hotep brother, I know what your saying and you are right for classifying, but I was merely pointing out that all political hand gestures et al are communication devices, the same as flags and uniforms are.

Case of semantics here.

I wouldn't sweat the Gaza ting someting else soon come seen.


true indeed brethren

that's why i had to laugh at the likkle "young dirty basttard" on this thread who said "without GAZA dancehall would be dead"

what a fool :russ:

fukking clown fails to realize Dancehall has been in existence the late 50's, and has always SURVIVED based on it's CREATIVITY....

That statement from him was not only disrespectful to DANCEHALL CULTURE but to JAMAICANS as a whole.....

but like u said basically GAZA is a gimmicky fad that will SOON COME TO AN END............

Can't wait .....as CAPELTON SAYS..."that DAY WILL COME!!" :takedat:
 

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What happen to the riddims? Those fakkits like Kartel are even using fukking auto tune in their music. :wtf:
Vybz wasn't always a fakkit though

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifdlfv6fRLo"]Vybz Kartel - Imagine (The Teacher's Back)(2008) - YouTube[/ame]
 

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I hate the american influence on the new generation of Jamaica artists.

i knew i wasn't the only one feeling this way :jawalrus:

Selector DAVID RODIGAN said the same thing like a prophet , many years ago ...that the a "nasty vibe is developing" in dancehall coming from the rap movement that many dancehall artists are seeking to assimilate into...

the yankee influence pon dancehall reggae has always been thier to some degree, but now it's basically HIJACKED the unique cultural aspects as well..

got all these Dancehall Artists out here acting like a bunched of FLAMBOYANT ASS PIRATE RAPPERS......

i just knew the genre was shot to hell, once i heard of cats like MUNGA "the Gangsta Rasta"

like wtf?!?:why:

i guess Babylon eventually got what it wanted...the emasculating suppression of a musical genre that was designed to fight the establishment :bustback:
 

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u fukking eediot (idiot) fassyminded yute :russ:

those WERE NOT gang signs! :comeon:

They were nothing more than POLITICAL GESTURES.....

the Fist in the air or the fist pump was the PNP aligning themselves with the Black Power movements that were happening across the western hemisphere during the late 60's......inspired by Malcom X's backing of the Castro Regime of Cuba which also happen to be the main advocate of the PNP's socialist stance .............

in response the JLP camp led by pro-american imperialists like Edward Seaga (eddie cia) placed the "PEACE SIGN" upon posters and billboards as thier appeal to the passive conservative ranks of the country, which sought to suppress the MILITANCY inspired by the PNP in the ghetto areas.....

the PNP and JLP are political parties u buffoon......

ur argument would have been stronger if you would have named the "gangs" aligned with them such as the SHOWER POSSE and the SPANGLERS but neither of them had ANY FUKKING GANG SIGNS either...

it was just their colors that identified them...

green for the SHOWER POSSE............reddish orange for SPANGLER

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Regarding the gang signs I think Hannibal's response was on point so I won't bother to respond to that..

BTW you do know that your avatar has the picture of a who was caught with a wig and is one the biggest coward that Jamaica has ever produced..

Just sayin..
 

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Regarding the gang signs I think Hannibal's response was on point so I won't bother to respond to that..

BTW you do know that your avatar has the picture of a who was caught with a wig and is one the biggest coward that Jamaica has ever produced..

Just sayin..

the boy was on the run ...trying to disguise himself while thier was a GLOBAL MANHUNT for him.......


your "LIFE PARTNER" vybez cartel and his sodomite friend POPCAAN has NO EXCUSES...

REAL DANCEHALL ARTISTS SHOULDN'T WEAR LEOPARD PRINT BLOUSES AND BLEACH UP DEM FACE

can't believe you TRYING TO DEFEND THIS FUKKERY :snoop:

ARE U PART OF THE NEW "TOLERANCE FOR BATTYMON" movement in JAMAICA?
 

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and you want to call DUDAS a coward..when it was DUDAS who made your byatch ass artist perform with Mavodo at one of Dudas's sponsered events (west kingston jamboree) to put an end to thier GIMMICKY BEEF......

that's REAL WORLD BOSS shyt............. Presidential Click>>>>Gaza



[[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3lb1eJMKHI&feature=endscreen&NR=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3lb1eJMKHI&feature=endscreen&NR=1[/ame]
 

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the boy was on the run ...trying to disguise himself while thier was a GLOBAL MANHUNT for him.......


your "LIFE PARTNER" vybez cartel and his sodomite friend POPCAAN has NO EXCUSES...

REAL DANCEHALL ARTISTS SHOULDN'T WEAR LEOPARD PRINT BLOUSES AND BLEACH UP DEM FACE

can't believe you TRYING TO DEFEND THIS FUKKERY :snoop:

ARE U PART OF THE NEW "TOLERANCE FOR BATTYMON" movement in JAMAICA?

Where did I defend the bleacha, his attire or his behavior?

lol @ life partner don't share your fantasies with the forum
 

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and you want to call DUDAS a coward..when it was DUDAS who made your byatch ass artist perform with Mavodo at one of Dudas's sponsered events (west kingston jamboree) to put an end to thier GIMMICKY BEEF......

that's REAL WORLD BOSS shyt............. Presidential Click>>>>Gaza



[Mavado & Vybz Kartel Peace Treaty (West Kingston jamboree) - YouTube

So he brought two artiste together nice (sarcasm)..

What about the drugs and the guns he brought in to the country and leaving his people to die when the police came looking for him...

We won't even bother to get into the vigilante justice and torture he inflicted on those who he thought went against his so called laws..

ehh to each his own I guess, but I can't condone things like that. For too long we have praised these so called Dons and not looking at them and the politicians for what they are.. which is vampire and leaches..
 

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So he brought two artiste together nice (sarcasm)..

What about the drugs and the guns he brought in to the country and leaving his people to die when the police came looking for him...

We won't even bother to get into the vigilante justice and torture he inflicted on those who he thought went against his so called laws..

ehh to each his own I guess, but I can't condone things like that. For too long we have praised these so called Dons and not looking at them and the politicians for what they are.. which is vampire and leaches..

question Rivoli...what did mr. BLEACH FACE KARTEL to get incarcerated??

uhh oh yeah :ooh: i forgot DRUGS and MURDERS...

too busy trying to be like the DONS you so despise....... :russ:

in the WRONG WAY......dudas has allegations of DRUGS and MURDER but he also has built housing developments, provided infrastucture and jobs for the Tivoli Garden community along with putting MONEY into the pockets of some of your most infamous reggae artists via his stage shows and parties..

Champions in Action, PASSA PASSA, The West Kingston Jamboree

what has KARTEL done for the people other than koon it up on stage and corner the market on BLEACHING PRODUCTS????

lock off ur mouth...........even your mama would say your embarrasing
 
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question Rivoli...what did mr. BLEACH FACE KARTEL to get incarcerated??

uhh oh yeah :ooh: i forgot DRUGS and MURDERS...

too busy trying to be like the DONS you so despise..
..... :russ:

in the WRONG WAY......dudas has allegations of DRUGS and MURDER but he also has built housing developments, provided infrastucture and jobs for the Tivoli Garden community along with putting MONEY into the pockets of some of your most infamous reggae artists via his stage shows and parties..

Champions in Action, PASSA PASSA, The West Kingston Jamboree

what has KARTEL done for the people other than koon it up on stage and corner the market on BLEACHING PRODUCTS????

lock off ur mouth...........even your mama would say your embarrasing


Man you gotta remember that A LARGE MAJORITY of reggae and dancehall artist were into drugs and murder. Ninja Man, Buju, Gregory Isaacs, Bob Marley, the list goes on. These nikkas were coked out to shyt. On a side note when they put Buju and Vybz in jail it was a huge blow to the game. Yes vybz bleached his skin but that doesnt sway from the fact that he's a talented artists. He's just an attention whore and he admitted it on Hot 97 when they asked him why he did it.
 

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if he is so gottdamn TALENTED then why does he feel the need to be such an ATTENTION WHORE??

:why:

Shouldn't his MUSIC alone validate him without WEARING EXTENSIONS and BLEACHING HIS SKIN???

During the 90's....I was drawn to REAL REGGAE ARTISTS like BARRINGTON LEVY and TENOR SAW and SUPERCAT simply because of their music..hell i didn't even know what TENOR SAW or BARRINGTON looked like because thier were no videos for thier song or major promotions.....sometimes all it took was a scratchy old dubplate that they (the artist) had cut for a soundsystem to play and it was just pure bliss to listen to the music

my point is Brethren....the MUSIC ALONE was STRONG ENOUGH TO GARNER MY ATTENTION....

but that boy KARTEL feels the need to do dumb shyt like that CAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS HE SEES HIMSELF AS A GIMMICK and does SHOCK VALUE shyt to bring attention to his music...sad.....DAT NAH MEK IT MY YUTE....


BOOM BYE BYE inna FASSYHOLE GIMMICK BWOI HEAD :violent:
 
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