Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
You are an Edomite...you are the biggest defender of the nation of Edom. Every time Edom is brought up you get upset because you have the spirit of Esau who is your father.
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You are an Edomite...you are the biggest defender of the nation of Edom. Every time Edom is brought up you get upset because you have the spirit of Esau who is your father.
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Edification: How the law of Deut. 22:28-29 helped the tribe of Benjamin survive
Quick back story:
Some men of Benjamin raped a Levite's wife until she died and it was a shame in Israel as the men also wanted to lay with the Levite. The led to devastating war. The tribe of Benjamin wen tto war against the rest of the tribes and were depleted to 600 men who were able to flee.
When the war was over, the other tribes swore that they would not give their daughters to the remaining men of Benjamin.
So here you have a situation where the tribe of Benjamin would be no more if they cannot get wives. So this is what they did READ CAREFULLY:
These women, the daughter of Shiloh, which in the land of Ephraim were taken without their consent by the remaining men of Benjamin and best believe that those men consummated the union when they returned to the tribe of Benjamin.
This shows that the law of Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is the reason why the tribe of Benjamin was not completely wiped out. The daughters of Shiloh are under the authority of their father, it is not like in today's society where a man can marry a woman with out the consent of her father. Is this an ideal way according to today or even back then? No. Of course having every daughter being given over to their future husband by their father is the standard. But that does not mean that Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is not lawful.
Again, this is a major stumbling block for people but for some reason when the tribe of Benjamin story is brought up people want to disregard why they were able to seize the daughters of Shiloh without their or their fathers' consent. The law was not created to protect the rights of the modern day woman. This society of Israel based on the law is completely different than the sociery that we live in. That is why it is important to keep things in perspective because when the kingdom is set on earth, if you are planning to be part of the elect and rulers over the other nations...these are the exact same laws that you will judge among their people because we will judge on the exact same matter as Deuteronomy 22:28-29 in the Kingdom.
Quick back story:
Some men of Benjamin raped a Levite's wife until she died and it was a shame in Israel as the men also wanted to lay with the Levite. The led to devastating war. The tribe of Benjamin wen tto war against the rest of the tribes and were depleted to 600 men who were able to flee.
When the war was over, the other tribes swore that they would not give their daughters to the remaining men of Benjamin.
So here you have a situation where the tribe of Benjamin would be no more if they cannot get wives. So this is what they did READ CAREFULLY:
These women, the daughter of Shiloh, which in the land of Ephraim were taken without their consent by the remaining men of Benjamin and best believe that those men consummated the union when they returned to the tribe of Benjamin.
This shows that the law of Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is the reason why the tribe of Benjamin was not completely wiped out. The daughters of Shiloh are under the authority of their father, it is not like in today's society where a man can marry a woman with out the consent of her father. Is this an ideal way according to today or even back then? No. Of course having every daughter being given over to their future husband by their father is the standard. But that does not mean that Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is not lawful.
Again, this is a major stumbling block for people but for some reason when the tribe of Benjamin story is brought up people want to disregard why they were able to seize the daughters of Shiloh without their or their fathers' consent. The law was not created to protect the rights of the modern day woman. This society of Israel based on the law is completely different than the sociery that we live in. That is why it is important to keep things in perspective because when the kingdom is set on earth, if you are planning to be part of the elect and rulers over the other nations...these are the exact same laws that you will judge among their people because we will judge on the exact same matter as Deuteronomy 22:28-29 in the Kingdom.
@Marvel u better not b like these other Israelite groups believing in bs. Ur better than that....
These Amerindians/asian ppl are the same damn ppl
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
You are not breaking anything down. You are just typing. When Esau came here, he never mistook the natives here as descendants of China. He identified them as Israelites in his own books which are chronicled by even those fake Jews in their own Jewish Encyclopedia. Lost Tribes and Promised Lands chronicled in their own assessment of the natives hundreds of years ago based on their customs as being part of the ten lost tribes,.
The Aztecs/Mayans made unleavened bread and even South American natives, which today are called tortillas...
The North American natives and natives all the way to Argentina wore clothes with fringes. That is just a small thing without even having to go into the curses which they suffer and still suffer as well.
North American
Mexican pancho
Inca clothing
None of you guys that reject the northern kingdom are deep in the scriptures. None of you can explain why that devil Columbus had hebrew interpreters with him. Your only explanation as to why you reject them is because they do not look like John Shaft.
Its funny how nobody here in America mistakes the descendants of the natives of Americas for Asians except for you guys. Does that Inca man look like a Chinaman to you? You run with the white mans science as an identifier because he called them Mongoloid, meanwhile you are classified as African and are lumped in the entire line of Ham according to Esau. I'm sure you still believe in the Bering Straight lie and the lie on how long the natives have been here too.
Y'all are Mr Magoo status and have been blinded by the Most High. Y'all are carnal and not spiritual at all. There are no amount of videos and scripture breakdowns that will help you nikkas. The whole northern kingdom issue is a perfect stumbling block for the people that the Most High does not want.
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You are not breaking anything down. You are just typing. When Esau came here, he never mistook the natives here as descendants of China. He identified them as Israelites in his own books which are chronicled by even those fake Jews in their own Jewish Encyclopedia. Lost Tribes and Promised Lands chronicled in their own assessment of the natives hundreds of years ago based on their customs as being part of the ten lost tribes,.
The Aztecs/Mayans made unleavened bread and even South American natives, which today are called tortillas...
The North American natives and natives all the way to Argentina wore clothes with fringes. That is just a small thing without even having to go into the curses which they suffer and still suffer as well.
North American
Mexican pancho
Inca clothing
None of you guys that reject the northern kingdom are deep in the scriptures. None of you can explain why that devil Columbus had hebrew interpreters with him. Your only explanation as to why you reject them is because they do not look like John Shaft.
Its funny how nobody here in America mistakes the descendants of the natives of Americas for Asians except for you guys. Does that Inca man look like a Chinaman to you? You run with the white mans science as an identifier because he called them Mongoloid, meanwhile you are classified as African and are lumped in the entire line of Ham according to Esau. I'm sure you still believe in the Bering Straight lie and the lie on how long the natives have been here too.
Y'all are Mr Magoo status and have been blinded by the Most High. Y'all are carnal and not spiritual at all. There are no amount of videos and scripture breakdowns that will help you nikkas. The whole northern kingdom issue is a perfect stumbling block for the people that the Most High does not want.
Im not as scripturally verse as u, thus me not breaking things down. But i see my point is mute if i dont.
Etmology of country
country (n.)
mid-13c., "district, native land," from Old French contree, from Vulgar Latin *(terra) contrata "(land) lying opposite," or "(land) spread before one," from Latin contra"opposite, against" (see contra-). Sense narrowed 1520s to rural areas, as opposed to cities. Replaced Old English land. As an adjective from late 14c.
Etymology of district (for further clarification)
district (n.)
1610s, "territory under the jurisdiction of a lord or officer," from French district (16c.), from Medieval Latin districtus "restraining of offenders, jurisdiction," then under the feudal system "area of jurisdiction," noun use of past participle of Latin distringere"hinder, detain" (see distress). Used vaguely of "any tract of land" from 1712.District attorney attested by 1789, American English.
This all means the 10 tribes entered known land, but man never lived there...
Over, into asia minor
Etmology of region
region (n.)
c.1300, "tract of land of a considerable but indefinite extent," from Anglo-Frenchregioun, Old French region "land, region, province" (12c.), from Latin regionem(nominative regio) "a district, portion of a country, territory, district; a direction, line; boundary line, limit," noun of state from past participle stem of regere "to direct, rule" (see regal). Phrase in the region of"about" (of numbers, etc.) is recorded from 1961.
So called America's, are not a region, but a continent
Etmology of continent
continent (n.)
"large land mass," 1550s, from continent land (mid-15c.), translating Latin terra continens "continuous land," fromcontinens, present participle of continere
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And man was in the so called Americas before these so called Amerindians. The hamitic ppl whom theyre whole culture is from. These anerindians werent the first people in so called america. So now @Marvel how r these Amerindian ppl israelites?
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Im not as scripturally verse as u, thus me not breaking things down. But i see my point is mute if i dont.
Etmology of country
Etymology of district (for further clarification)
This all means the 10 tribes entered known land, but man never lived there...
Over, into asia minor
Etmology of region
So called America's, are not a region, but a continent
Etmology of continent
And man was in the so called Americas before these so called Amerindians. The hamitic ppl whom theyre whole culture is from. These anerindians werent the first people in so called america. So now @Marvel how r these Amerindian ppl israelites?
It does not take a year and half by ship to get to Asia Minor.
People were already living there before the northern kingdom went into captivity in the Assyrian Empire.
The original sons of Japeth were given Asia Minor and the Mediterranean islands and peninsulas as an inheritance...people related to the Ancient Minoans who were also Japhites.
You do realize that that the southern kingdom went into captivity for keeping Hamite customs, right? That is why the Most High was justified in bringing the curses on our people. He promised that he would only put us in captivity if we were going off as a people.
Even til this day, even here we have our people that gravitate to Hamite customs...especially Egyptian beliefs and even worshiping their gods.
You completely disregard the Israelite customs that the natives still kept. Why? Because you the Most High has put gross darkness over you.
Because in the same way that the southern kingdom started going off, the northern kingdom were going off too....which again is the reason why the Most High was justified in bringing Esau to do all the things that they did to them including being victims of the worst acts of genocide in history and stealing all of their land....To lose the entire Western Hemisphere to another nation is a curse that can only happen to Israelites. Losing all your land and cattle to another nation that came from far whose language you cannot understand is a curse in Deuteronomy 28 that fits them.
But again, you are given over to a reprobate mind...I have dealt with your kind before. You guys are nt serious and rarely ever go into future prophecies or even hasten to the destruction of this wicked kingdom. You are more concerned with preserving an image of "blackness" and not what being an Israelite really is. You nikkas are just black unconsciousness nikkas that were in the valley of the dry bones, you were given skin but there is no breathe in you. All you did was choose Israelite in your a la cart of identities provide within black unconsciousness instead Nawubian, Moor, Egyptian, Melanoid, African, Rasta, etc.
Even that will go over your head.
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
The Israelites went into Assyrian captivity in 740 BC. Hittites and others been living in Turkey/Asia Minor thousands of years before Edras was even written. The west was called the "New world". So Asareth is not that country, because mankind was well established in that area when that verse in Edras was said.Im not as scripturally verse as u, thus me not breaking things down. But i see my point is mute if i dont.
Etmology of country
Etymology of district (for further clarification)
This all means the 10 tribes entered known land, but man never lived there...
Over, into asia minor
c. 1600 BC–c. 1178 BC
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The Hittite Empire, ca. 1400 BC (shown in Blue).
People been in that land since 5000 BC
Around 5000 BC, the region centered in Hattusa, that would later become the core of the Hittite kingdom, was inhabited by people with a distinct culture who spoke a non-Indo-European language. The name "Hattic" is used by Anatolianists to distinguish this language from the Indo-European Hittite language that appeared on the scene at the beginning of the 2nd millennium BC and became the administrative language of the Hittite kingdom over the next six or seven centuries.
The early Hittites, whose prior whereabouts are unknown, borrowed heavily from the pre-existing Hattian and Hurrian cultures, and also from that of the Assyrian colonisers—in particular, the cuneiform writing and the use of cylindrical seals.[citation needed]
Since Hattic continued to be used in the Hittite kingdom for religious purposes, and there is substantial continuity between the two cultures, it is not known whether the Hattic speakers—the Hattians—were displaced by the speakers of Hittite, were absorbed by them, or just adopted their language.
After the earth was flood, Noah and his 3 sons migrated into different parts of the world. This was way before Edras wrote this as well
He is the people that were in the land of Asia Minor during the time of Esdras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syro-Hittite_states
Hattians
The Hattians (/ˈhætiənz/) were an ancient people who inhabited the land of Hatti in central Anatolia (present-day Turkey). The group was documented at least as early as the empire of Sargon of Akkad (c. 2300 BC),[1] until it was gradually absorbed c. 2000–1700 BC by the Indo-European Hittites, who became identified with the "land of Hatti".
Approximate extent of Hittite rule, c. 1350–1300 BC, with Arzawa rule and Lukkans to the west, and Mitanni rule to the southeast.
New World aka The place where mankind never dwelt
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World
The New World is one of the names used for the Western Hemisphere, specifically the Americas (including nearby islands such as those of the Caribbean and Bermuda).
The term originated in the early 16th century after Europeans made landfall in what would later be called the Americas in the age of discovery, expanding the geographical horizon of classical geographers, who had thought of the world as consisting of Africa, Europe, and Asia, collectively now referred to as the Old World (aka Afro-Eurasia).
The term was first coined by Florentine explorer Amerigo Vespucci. The Americas were also referred to as the "fourth part of the world".[1]
The term "New World" ("Mundus Novus") was first coined by the Florentine explorer Amerigo Vespucci, in a letter written to his friend and former patron Lorenzo di Pier Francesco de' Medici in the Spring of 1503, and published (in Latin) in 1503-04 under the title Mundus Novus. Vespucci's letter contains arguably the first explicit articulation in print of the hypothesis that the lands discovered by European navigators to the west were not the edges of Asia, as asserted by Christopher Columbus, but rather an entirely different continent, a "New World".[1]
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/127070/Christopher-Columbus/223126/Calculations
Columbus also read the seer Salathiel-Ezra in the books of Esdras, from the Apocrypha (especially 2 Esdras6:42, in which the prophet states that the Earth is six parts land to one of water), thus reinforcing these ideas of the proportion of land- to sea-crossing.
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Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
Well since you didn even address that the Edomites are a black nation with biblical proof this means the doctrine is racist. If any white/edomite false doctrine is mentioned in this thread again it will be reported. I will not tolerate this false doctrine.
To your other misrepresentation. Can you read Hebrew? Strong himself was mistaken in language, the word Syria is the word Aram, and the word you spelled is the Aramites. The difference b/w Aramites and Adamites is the dalet and the reish, which are similar letters, but TWO DIFFERENT NATIONS.
2 Samuel 8
12 These nations were ·Edom [L Aram; C the Hebrew has Aram (Syria), but the context suggests Edom], Moab, Ammon, Philistia, and Amalek. David also gave the Lord ·what he had taken from Hadadezer son of Rehob, king of Zobah.
This is from the expanded bible, which gives an extended context. What this means is that in the Hebrew Masoretic text the word Aram and the word Adam were often confused because the DALET and the REAISH are very similar Hebrew characters. but as you can see by the map above, edom and aram are two different nations. They BOTH HOWEVER COME FROM THE LINE OF SHEM, NOT THE LINE OF YAPETH, WHICH ARE THE EUOPEAN NATIONS.
Also the ironic thing is that you use the name jesus, which is a European name for the HEBREW NAME YAHUSHA. If you are Judah(which is pronounced YAHUDAH) why are you still using a PAGAN, GENTILE NAME FOR THE MASCHIACH? Please stop being so so confused. Do not use the name jesus if you are Yasharaal.
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
If white people are Japheth, then where in the bible does it say Japheth will rule at the end? Where in the bible does is say Japheth rule in Jerusalem like the white false Jews are doing today? Where does is say Japheth will oppress the Israelites and sell them in slavery if white people are Japheth?
Herod the Great ruled in the during the time of the birth of christ. You know the same guy that tried to kill Christ. Herod's father was Antipater the Idumaean
Antipater I the Idumaean (died 43 BC) was the founder of the Herodian Dynasty and father of Herod the Great. According to Josephus, he was the son of Antipas (I) and had formerly held that name.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipater_the_Idumaean
Edom (/ˈiːdəm/[1] or /ˈiː.dʌm/;[2]Hebrew: אֱדוֹם, ModernEdom, TiberianʼĔḏôm ; "red"; Assyrian: Udumi; Syriac: ܐܕܘܡ) or Idumea
It is mentioned in biblical records as a 1st millennium BC Iron Age kingdom of Edom,[3] and in classical antiquity the cognate name Idumea was used to refer to a smaller area in the same region.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom
So if Romans, Europeans, Fake jews are all Japhites then show me in the bible the prophecy of Japheth ruling the world from the Grecian empire to right now. And nowhere in the bible does it say "Japheth will rule the world until the end of time"
The bible does say
2 Esdras 6:9
For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
Genesis 25:22-25
"And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to inquire of the LORD.
And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger "
One came out a completely different color than any other race on the face of the earth. Where in the bible does is say Japheth was born a different color than EVERY DARK RACE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH?.
2 Samuel 8
12 These nations were ·Edom [L Aram; C the Hebrew has Aram (Syria), but the context suggests Edom], Moab, Ammon, Philistia, and Amalek. David also gave the Lord ·what he had taken from Hadadezer son of Rehob, king of Zobah.
This is from the expanded bible, which gives an extended context. What this means is that in the Hebrew Masoretic text the word Aram and the word Adam were often confused because the DALET and the REAISH are very similar Hebrew characters. but as you can see by the map above, edom and aram are two different nations. They BOTH HOWEVER COME FROM THE LINE OF SHEM, NOT THE LINE OF YAPETH, WHICH ARE THE EUOPEAN NATIONS.
I don't what you are rambling about. While you are at it go report yourself for lying saying white people are from Japheth
2 Samuel 8
12 of Syria, and of Moab, and of the children of Ammon, and of the Philistines, and of Amalek, and of the spoil of Hadadezer, son of Rehob, king of Zobah. 13 And David gat him a name when he returned from smiting of the Syrians in the valley of salt, being eighteen thousand men.
Aramean king Hadadezer bar Rehob, allied with Ammon against David, who defeated Zobah and made the kingdom tributary to Israel (II Samuel 10.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadadezer_bar_Rehob
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arameans
Kingdoms, 9th century BC, around Israel. Up in green, Aram (present-day central Syria). Up in purple, Phoenicia (present-day Lebanon).
So David took the spoils of the Syrians, Moabites, Ammonites, Philistines, Amalekites/Edomites. and from Zobah (Arameans)
which is the surrounding areas of his kingdom
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Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
If white people are Japheth, then where in the bible does it say Japheth will rule at the end? Where in the bible does is say Japheth rule in Jerusalem like the white false Jews are doing today? Where does is say Japheth will oppress the Israelites and sell them in slavery if white people are Japheth?
So if Romans, Europeans, Fake jews are all Japhites then the prophecy of Japheth ruling the world from the Grecian empire to right now. And nowhere in the bible does it say "Japheth will rule in the time of the coming of Christ."
The bible does say
2 Esdras 6:9
For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
Genesis 25:22-25
"And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to inquire of the LORD.
And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger "
One came out a completely different color than any other race on the face of the earth. Where in the bible does is say Japheth was born a different color than EVERY DARK RACE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH?.
I don't what you are rambling about. While you are at it go report yourself for lying saying white people are from Japheth
2 Samuel 8
12 of Syria, and of Moab, and of the children of Ammon, and of the Philistines, and of Amalek, and of the spoil of Hadadezer, son of Rehob, king of Zobah. 13 And David gat him a name when he returned from smiting of the Syrians in the valley of salt, being eighteen thousand men.
Aramean king Hadadezer bar Rehob, allied with Ammon against David, who defeated Zobah and made the kingdom tributary to Israel (II Samuel 10.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadadezer_bar_Rehob
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arameans
Kingdoms, 9th century BC, around Israel. Up in green, Aram (present-day central Syria). Up in purple, Phoenicia (present-day Lebanon).
So David took the spoils of the Syrians, Moabites, Ammonites, Philistines, Amalekites/Edomites. and from Zobah (Arameans)
which is the surrounding areas of his kingdom
You will have to go to the table of nations in genesis ten to trace the lineage of Yapeth, to Yavan, to greek and other northern pagan nations. U are casually ignoring that the bible SAYS what color Esau was, the same color of Daud, which is ruddy red, like a red heifer or red soil, which is a brownish color. If your whole doctrine centers around Esau being a white man, then your doctrine is rendered false, by the bible. This means you will need to reinterprete your entire end time prophecy. The Edomites, are MOST LIKELY the Arab nations and the Islamic faith and NOT THE WHITE NATIONS. This esau false doctrine is racist and based on a contemporary analysis of contemporary social issues, and reinterpreting it against ancient social issues. THIS IS A FALSE METHOD.
As you can see by reposting the map I posted, Edom is to the south of Yarushalum, which means automatically they are darker skinned. The Edomites are then described in 2 Shamual 8 as these nations: Moab, Philistina, Ammon and Amalak. As you can see from the map edom and moab and philistina (known today as PALASTINE) and Ammon are all located in the same area. Ammon and Moab are semetic peoples, they are the sons of Lot. Again you will need to research the table of nations in genesis ten.
Take a reexamination of the curses of Deut 28:
deut 28:36 YAHUAH shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
Esau was well known from the very beginning by the Hebrews and their fathers, because Esau was their great uncle. Masha/Moses knows of edom and edom is a powerful nation at the time the Deutoronomy/Dabarim curses are pronounced, which means the curse stating that the nation which thou nor your fathers has known will rule over thee, cannot be talking about any semetic nation. Amalak (esau's grandson), Ammon, Moab, Aram, and Philistina are all WELL KNOWN among the Hebrews. In fact THEY ARE ALL SEMETIC PEOPLE, which means they were all black/darker skinned.
If you are as wise you will reaccess your bible doctrine and stop listening to racist Rabbi's teaching hatred abt the bible. Also you will stop referring to the Masciach with pagan terminology like 'christ' and 'jesus'. This in itself is a wild contradiction of doctrine. If you are Yahudah you speak the language of the Yahudi, not the language of haggar(stranger).
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
I already searched the bible and Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tuban, Meshech, Tiras, AShkenaz, Riphath, Togarmah, Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, Dodanim. There is no prophecy that any of these people will rule the world at the time of Christ's coming. I just proved that Herod the great was a Edomite and the same race of people as Herod is ruling the world today. I'm still waiting on the scripture that says any of those children i name will rule the world all the way until the time of the coming of Christ. And where does is say Christ is coming back to destroy Japheth and any of these sons for the sins he committed against Israel.
New World aka The place where mankind never dwelt
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World
The New World is one of the names used for the Western Hemisphere, specifically the Americas (including nearby islands such as those of the Caribbean and Bermuda).
The term originated in the early 16th century after Europeans made landfall in what would later be called the Americas in the age of discovery, expanding the geographical horizon of classical geographers, who had thought of the world as consisting of Africa, Europe, and Asia, collectively now referred to as the Old World (aka Afro-Eurasia).
The term was first coined by Florentine explorer Amerigo Vespucci. The Americas were also referred to as the "fourth part of the world".[1]
The term "New World" ("Mundus Novus") was first coined by the Florentine explorer Amerigo Vespucci, in a letter written to his friend and former patron Lorenzo di Pier Francesco de' Medici in the Spring of 1503, and published (in Latin) in 1503-04 under the title Mundus Novus. Vespucci's letter contains arguably the first explicit articulation in print of the hypothesis that the lands discovered by European navigators to the west were not the edges of Asia, as asserted by Christopher Columbus, but rather an entirely different continent, a "New World".[1]
http://truenation.websitetoolbox.com/post/Why-Was-David-called-RED-or-RUDDY-4882959
So lets examine the word "Ruddy" in an Old English Dictionary.
Ruddy - Reddish, sun-tanned healthy and glowing appearance; a tanned and brilliant glow demonstrating vibrance in the skin.
Modern Definition
ruddy |ˈrədē|adjective ( -dier , -diest )1 (of a person's face) having a healthy red color : a cheerful pipe-smoking man of ruddy complexion.
Understanding this foundation is crucial to understanding Edom/Esau. David was described as ruddy and not red. and Edom was described as RED and not ruddy. Although they share the same hebrew meaning we must examine the context. Knowing the foundation of these meanings helps us to know both definitions are related to BLOOD activity in the skin. Esau/Edom is described as RED ALL OVER showing that blood is clearly seen through his flesh. David is described as "RUDDY and of a beautiful countenance" which corresponding with the old and modern definitions of "brilliant" and "healthy" skin complexion. When one is RUDDY, their blood cells are so vibrant they possess a glow about them as young negro/indian men and women do. Caucasians have always lacked this glow and for this reason the product called "BLUSH" was created as a form of makeup that allowed Caucasian women to artificially obtain that healthy "reddish" tone to no avail. What happens when a negro is said to "Blush"? Their face turns a reddish color from embarrassment... although their natural physical color does not change. Lets look at the context of how the scriptures use RUDDY.
1Sam. 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.
1Sam. 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.
Song 5:10 My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
Lam. 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:
Notice in each instance ruddy is used as a positive description and in association with beauty. This is why Goliath laughed at David when he saw him because David was youthful and handsome and did not have that hard, blemished and weary look that most men of war had.
1Sam. 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.
Edom was known as a fierce warrior so clearly RED had nothing to do with Goliath mocking David.
Historical proof
1Mac. 1:1 And it happened, after that Alexander son of Philip, the Macedonian, who came out of the land of Chettiim, had smitten Darius king of the Persians and Medes, that he reigned in his stead,the first over Greece,
When Alexander (a caucasian or white race) conquered the original inhabitants of Greece (originally Javan) He began to be the first Edomite ruler thus naming the land Greece. How do we know he was an Edomite?
1Mac. 4:61 And they set there a garrison to keep it, and fortified Bethsura to preserve it; that the people might have a defence against Idumea (Greek name for EDOM).
After alexander died, his descendants and fellow Greeks tortured and slaughtered the Israelites.
For this reason the Israelites built a fortress to protect them from the Idumeans or Edomites who then called themselves Greeks/Greece. The Greeks later became the Romans who without doubt are so-called caucasians (Edomites).
123. Edom, ed-ome´; or (fully) Edowm, ed-ome´; from 122; red (see Gen. 25:25); Edom, the elder twin-brother of Jacob; hence the region (Idumaea) occupied by him:—Edom, Edomites, Idumea.
This man is RUDDY
These man are RED/EDOM
Gen. 25:25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau/Edom.
Remember the Bible describes them as RED and not white (do not confuse this with leprosy) as they so conveniently labeled themselves. Is it a coincidence that there was only ONE nation/race of people described as RED in the Bible and there's only ONE race of people physically RED today? Isn't the truth obvious?
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It does not take a year and half by ship to get to Asia Minor.
People were already living there before the northern kingdom went into captivity in the Assyrian Empire.
The original sons of Japeth were given Asia Minor and the Mediterranean islands and peninsulas as an inheritance...people related to the Ancient Minoans who were also Japhites.
You do realize that that the southern kingdom went into captivity for keeping Hamite customs, right? That is why the Most High was justified in bringing the curses on our people. He promised that he would only put us in captivity if we were going off as a people.
Even til this day, even here we have our people that gravitate to Hamite customs...especially Egyptian beliefs and even worshiping their gods.
You completely disregard the Israelite customs that the natives still kept. Why? Because you the Most High has put gross darkness over you.
Because in the same way that the southern kingdom started going off, the northern kingdom were going off too....which again is the reason why the Most High was justified in bringing Esau to do all the things that they did to them including being victims of the worst acts of genocide in history and stealing all of their land....To lose the entire Western Hemisphere to another nation is a curse that can only happen to Israelites. Losing all your land and cattle to another nation that came from far whose language you cannot understand is a curse in Deuteronomy 28 that fits them.
But again, you are given over to a reprobate mind...I have dealt with your kind before. You guys are nt serious and rarely ever go into future prophecies or even hasten to the destruction of this wicked kingdom. You are more concerned with preserving an image of "blackness" and not what being an Israelite really is. You nikkas are just black unconsciousness nikkas that were in the valley of the dry bones, you were given skin but there is no breathe in you. All you did was choose Israelite in your a la cart of identities provide within black unconsciousness instead Nawubian, Moor, Egyptian, Melanoid, African, Rasta, etc.
Even that will go over your head.
These people were heathens. All their customs are pagan. Human sacrifice, using etheogenics, worshipping false idols (stars, weather patterns, and supposed "gods").
These heathens can go to almost anywhere in south/central america and b in the majority. Israelites are the minority worldwide, even in africa, except jamaica and haiti.
What Amerindians r coming into understanding there stake in the future kingdom? These ppl hate you just like every1 else, they r strangers. Look at them, and u mean to tell me these ppl took residence is israel? They arent negros, negros are the minority worldwide.
And id appreciate u not using ur tangent rants about what u think i am, what u think i know or any other topic scripturally, stick to the subject at hand for the time being.
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^^^ Now you are over here guessing, "Its most likely the arab nations"
. Alexander the Great and Herod the Great are both Edomites and according to you they have Arabs named Herod the great and Alexander the great lol. You are digging yourself a hole the size of Texas 
. I dare you to say Herod and Alexander wasn't Edomites and they were actually Japhities , say it !!! say it again!!
Historical proof
1Mac. 1:1 And it happened, after that Alexander son of Philip, the Macedonian, who came out of the land of Chettiim, had smitten Darius king of the Persians and Medes, that he reigned in his stead,the first over Greece,
Does Alexander the Great look Arab/Muslim to you?
When Alexander (a caucasian or white race) conquered the original inhabitants of Greece (originally Javan) He began to be the first Edomite ruler thus naming the land Greece. How do we know he was an Edomite?
1Mac. 4:61 And they set there a garrison to keep it, and fortified Bethsura to preserve it; that the people might have a defence against Idumea (Greek name for EDOM).
Clear as day showing they were Idumeans/Edomites/Esau not Muslim/Arab/Ishmaelites. Now lets see how his descendants look.
Lets try Herod the Great. Does he look Arab oror Muslim to you? Cuz according to you he is
Herod Aggripa, the grandson of Herod the Great. Fore father of the Muslim religion?
Herod Agrippa, also known as Herod or Agrippa I, was a Judean monarch during the 1st century AD. The grandson of Herod the Great and son of Aristobulus IV and Berenice. Does this look like the person that will later become the father of the Arabs or Muslims?
Berenice of Cilicia, also known as Julia Berenice and sometimes spelled Bernice, was a Jewish client queen of the Roman Empire during the second half of the 1st century. Wikipedia
Arabs know they are Ishamelites. They don't need your uneducated guesses.. We already established you don't know anything. You just don't want to see your daddy Mr White man get put to death.
2 Esdras 6:9
For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
Isaiah 63 1-5
Who is this that comes from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, traveling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2Why are you red in your apparel, and your garments like him that treads in the winefat?
3I have trodden the wine press alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in my anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled on my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4For the day of vengeance is in my heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore my own arm brought salvation to me; and my fury, it upheld me.
Obadiah Chapter 1
1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.
2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.
8 Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.
10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
15 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.
17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.
21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.
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