The Guardian: The Real American Sniper was a hate-filled killer. Why is he treated as a hero?

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He was murdered in 2013 at a Texas gun range by a 25-year-old veteran reportedly suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

Well at least the story has a happy ending. The military put their own dog to sleep. :salute:

The real hero?

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"i traded my soul for a new pickup truck" - :huhldup: This fool was out his mind too. Dog eat dog world.
 
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Im sure dude served the military well, and was an outstanding soldier, but he was also probably an extremely psychotic racist, bigoted guy also ( i mean if you got over 100 bodies and are disconnected you are sick) so when I heard about him getting gunned by one of his own I was like damn karma is crazy, you know them iraqis that were in Falujah and still living were like

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movie was great btw :manny:
 

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Chalk it up as a case of America's inability to discuss anything with nuance, especially when it comes to historical or modern figures. As Mos Def said, "there's never no in-between, we're either nikkas or kings, we either bytches or queens."

Were the Founding Fathers saints who never did anything wrong, or were they slave owners willing to compromise human dignity and life? Was MLK a spiritual man we should all look up to, or was he an adulterer who disrespected his wife until the day he died? Nobody is one thing. People are complex, they aren't cartoon or comic characters. No one wakes up in the morning, rubs their hands, and says "ooooh what evil can I commit today!"

Kyle was a brave man who saved the lives of many of his fellow soldiers and fought for his country. He was also an unapologetically violent man who committed crimes in the name of his country. He worked hard to help vets suffering from PTSD, he also bragged about doing ugly things to his fellow citizens.

Is he a monster or a saint? Perhaps the better question is, whatever he became...was it due to what he saw and was told to do in Iraq? Does war make heroes or monsters? Can you be a hero and a monster? I haven't seen the film but the article suggests it isn't some red blooded hoorah film - it's a morally ambiguous take on Kyle. That's a good thing imo. It's time we stopped glorifying people based on their uniform and instead asked ourselves if they are living up to the (alleged) standard of excellence that uniform demands. That goes for soldiers and cops.
 

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honestly its all messed up....

i met the guy in texas and the stuff that he did for those suffering from PTSD can't be put into words. i'm not going to watch the movie though.
I read about some of it, he really seemed to be trying his best to be there for his brothers. One man's nightmare is truly another man's savior. :wow:
 

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Damn.

I wanted to see it, too.

The only people on my timeline who've seen it are right-wingers that hate gun control and Muslims.

Thought it was gonna be along the lines of The Hurt Locker (straight :banderas: status).
Guess not.:manny:



I hate gun control..:ohhh:


But I'm a Muslim..:patrice:

But I'm pro black..:ohhh:


I can relate more to murking people and being in combat than I can to wanting to March and be peaceful. :sas2:


I have the bootlegs............. Honestly, I was very interested when i saw the preview for Sniper because Action scenes . I was a little disgusted when i saw the preview for Selma... A lot disgusted.
 
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