Refuting the myth that Black American music/culture is "Europeanized".

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Nope, but admittedly I haven't really looked at it from a genetics point of view often. Though, keep in mind people like Kanuri, Hausa, & Fulani also live in Nigeria as well. So, "Nigerian ancestry" is kind of ambiguous to me, as it could mean a whole lot of different ethnic origins.
Though in some studies they specially state "Yoruba".

Also I was reading through this thread non Forum Biodiversity(not a favorite site of mines).
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sh...reakdown-of-SSA-for-Aframs-CV-s-PR-s-and-DR-s

And the OP claims he AA's hav e the most samples and they have the least Sahelian ancestry/admixture during the discussion.

He was using ancestrydna which is iirc is private company and I think he himself was doing the sampling on a computer to find out. Plus I found some of his sampling strange. AA's having significant amount of Beninese ancestry(when that group hardly entered the USA) and Jamaicans having very little Akan ancestry.

Your thoughts? It was a long discussion...
 

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As a member of the last generation of African Americans born and educated on Sapelo Island, Cornelia Bailey as become one of Georgia's most vocal defenders of her homeland and its African American heritage. Sapelo Island, a barrier island off the southern coast of Georgia, has protected the state's interior for thousands of years. Although the island has withstood countless hurricanes and the arrival of colonial settlers, a new threat has come to the people of Sapelo—the threat of industrial development.
A self-proclaimed
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"Saltwater Geechee," Cornelia Walker Bailey was born on Sapelo on June 12, 1945, to Hettie Bryant and Hicks Walker. In 2000 she published God, Dr. Buzzard, and the Bolito Man, a cultural memoir that both details Bailey's experiences while growing up on Sapelo Island in the 1940s and 1950s and gives its readers a new perspective on the African American culture that emerged on the island more than 200 years ago. Using childhood stories and family legends passed down over generations, Bailey depicts a way of life that has become threatened by the industrial development that creeps closer and closer to Sapelo.
Bailey traces her lineage back to an African Muslim named Bul-Allah (or Bilali), who worked as the head slavemanager for the island's owner, cotton planter Thomas Spalding. Cornelia Bailey and her family, like many of Sapelo's natives, are direct descendants of West African slaves, many of whom (like Bilali) were Muslim. Over time, the different cultures living on Sapelo Island have blended together and become what Bailey calls the Geechee culture. A combination of Christian and Islamic religious beliefs, the Geechee culture on Sapelo Island has remained virtually unchanged, thanks to the island's geographic isolation.
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returned to Sapelo in 1966 after living with family members on St. Simons Island for some years. As of 2005 she lives on Sapelo with her husband, Julius "Frank" Bailey, and two of her sons. Bailey has become Sapelo's "griot," an African term for the tribal historian who, in Bailey's own words, keeps "the oral history of the tribe, as it [has been] passed down for thousands of years." She and her husband conduct tours of the island and teach others about their community's rich and treasured history.
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Sapelo Island Cultural Day
continues to fight against the loss of her community's cultural heritage. However, as Sapelo's elders pass on and the island's youth are forced to leave Sapelo for education or work, the Geechee community struggles to maintain its historical identity. The state of Georgia currently owns about 95 percent of Sapelo Island, leaving Bailey and her community confined to a small, private portion of the island known as Hog Hammock. Bailey works to raise awareness of Sapelo's plight by educating those who visit Sapelo Island through public speaking and writing. In May 2004 she received a Governor's Award in the Humanities in recognition of her work on behalf of the African American population of Sapelo Island and the Geechee culture.



Saudi Aramco World : Muslim Roots, U.S. Blues


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“History changes things,” says author Cornelia Walker Bailey, (above) who lives on Sapelo Island, Georgia. Her surname started out as Bilali, the given name of her ancestor Bilali Mohammed. Trained as a Muslim prayer leader in his native Guinea, he was enslaved in 1803 and brought to Sapelo Island, where a small community of his descendants still lives. Bailey grew up saying Christian prayers facing east, the direction of Makkah—the same direction in which her Muslim ancestor prayed. Above Left : W. C. Handy, “Father of the Blues” and a son of former slaves, recorded a 1903 encounter with a man playing an instrument that was evolving from an African zither into an American slide guitar.
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ylviane Diouf knows her audience might be skeptical, so to demonstrate the connec- tion between Muslim traditions and American blues music, she’ll play two recordings: The athaan, the Muslim call to prayer that’s heard from minarets around the world, and “Levee Camp Holler,” an early type of blues song that first sprang up in the Mississippi Delta more than 100 years ago.

“Levee Camp Holler” is no ordinary song. It’s the product of ex-slaves who worked moving earth all day in post-Civil War America. The version that Diouf uses in presentations has lyrics that, like the call to prayer, speak about a glorious God. But it’s the song’s melody and note changes that closely resemble oneof Islam’s best-known refrains. Like the call to prayer, “Levee Camp Holler” emphasizes words that seem to quiver and shake in the reciter’s vocal chords. Dramatic changes in musical scales punctuate both “Levee Camp Holler” and the adhan. A nasal intonation is evident in both.

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“I did a talk a few years ago at Harvard where I played those two things, and the room absolutely exploded in clapping, because [the connection] was obvious,” says Diouf, an author and scholar who is also a researcher at New York’s Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture. “People were saying, ‘Wow. That’s really audible. It’s really there.’” It’s really there thanks to all the Muslim slaves from West Africa who were taken by force to the United States for three centuries, from the 1600’s to the mid-1800’s. Upward of 30 percent of the African slaves in the United States were Muslim, and an untold number of them spoke and wrote Arabic, historians say now. Despite being pressured by slave owners to adopt Christianity and give up their old ways, many of these slaves continued to practice their religion and customs, or otherwise melded traditions from Africa into their new environment in the antebellum South. Forced to do menial, backbreaking work on plantations, for example, they still managed, throughout their days, to voice a belief in God and the revelation of the Qur’an. These slaves’ practices eventually evolved—decades and decades later, parallel with different singing traditions from Africa—into the shouts and hollers that begat blues music, Diouf and other historians believe.

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African Muslim slaves influenced later blues both through their musical style and through their instruments, which, in late-18th-century Suriname, included percussion, wind and string devices. Among the latter were a one-string benta (top left), and a Creole-bania (top right), an ancestor of the American banjo.
Another way that Muslim slaves had an indirect influence on blues music is the instruments they played. Drumming, which was common among slaves from the Congo and other non-Muslim regions of Africa, was banned by white slave owners, who felt threatened by its ability to let slaves communicate with each other and by the way it inspired large gatherings of slaves.

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Stringed instruments, however—favored by slaves from Muslim regions of Africa, where there’s a long tradition of musical storytelling—were generally allowed because slave owners considered them akin to European instruments such as the violin. So slaves who managed to cobble togethera banjo or other instrument—the American banjo originated with African slaves—could play more widely in public. This solo-oriented slave music featured elements of an Arabic–Muslim song style that had been imprinted by centuries of Islam’s presence in West Africa, says Gerhard Kubik, a professor of ethnomusicology at the University of Mainz in Germany. Kubik has written the most comprehensive book on Africa’s connection to blues music, Africa and the Blues (1999, University Press of Mississippi).

Kubik believes that many of today’s blues singers unconsciously echo these Arabic–Muslim patterns in their music. Using academic language to describe this habit, Kubik writes in Africa and the Blues that “the vocal style of many blues singers using melisma, wavy intonation, and so forth is a heritage of that large region of West Africa that had been in contact with the Arabic–Islamic world of the Maghreb since the seventh and eighth centuries.” (Melisma is the use of many notes in one syllable; wavy intonation refers to a series of notes that veer from major to minor scale and back again, something that’s common in both blues music and in the Muslim call to prayer as well as recitation of the Qur’an. The Maghreb is the Arab–Muslim region of North Africa.)

Kubik summarizes his thesis this way: “Many traits that have been considered unusual, strange and difficult to interpret by earlier blues researchers can now be better understood as a thoroughly processed and transformed Arabic–Islamic stylistic component.”

The extent of this link between Muslim culture and American blues music is still being debated. Some scholars insist there is no connection, and many of today’s best-known blues musicians would say their music has little to do with Muslim culture. Yet a growing body of evidence—gathered by academics such as Kubik and by others such as Cornelia Walker Bailey, a Georgia author whose great-great-great-great-grandfather was a slave who prayed toward Makkah—suggests a deep relationship between slaves of Islamic descent and us culture. While Muslim slaves from West Africa were just one factor in the formation of American blues music, they were a factor, says Barry Danielian, a trumpeter who’s performed with Paul Simon, Natalie Cole and Tower of Power.

Bailey, who visited West Africa in 1989, says the African and Muslim roots of southern us traditionsare often mistaken for something else.

Bailey lives on Georgia’s Sapelo Island, where some blacks can trace their ancestry to Bilali Mohammed, a Muslim slave who was born and raised in what is now the African nation of Guinea. Visitors to Sapelo Island are always struck by the fact that churches there face east. In fact, as a child, Bailey learned to say her prayers facing east—the same direction that her great-great-great-great-grandfather faced when he prayed toward Makkah.

Bilali was an educated man. He spoke and wrote Arabic, carried a Qur’an and a prayer rug, and wore a fez that likely signified his religious devotion. Bilali had been trained in Africa to be a Muslim leader; on Sapelo Island, he was appointed by his slave master to be an overseer of other slaves. Although Bilali’s descendents adopted Christianity, they incorporated Muslim traditions that are still evident today.

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To trumpeter Barry Danielian, Muslim prayers are “very musical. You hear what we as Americans would call soulfulness or blues. That’s definitely in there.”

The name Bailey, in fact, is a reworking of the name Bilali, which became a popular Muslim name in Africa because one of Islam’s first converts—and the religion’s first muezzin—was a former Abyssinian slave named Bilal. (Muezzins are those who call Muslims to prayer.) One historian believes that abolitionist Frederick Douglass, who changed his name from Frederick Bailey, may also have had Muslim roots.

“History changes things,” says Bailey, who chronicled the history of Sapelo Island in her memoir God, Dr. Buzzard, and the Bolito Man (2001, Anchor). “Things become something different from what they started out as.”


https://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200604/muslim.roots.u.s.blues.htm
 

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The First Muslim-American Scholar: Bilali Muhammad

An unfortunate misconception among today’s American Muslim community is that Islam has only been present in America for less than 100 years. Many American Muslims are children of immigrants who came to the United States from the Middle East and South Asia in the mid-nineteenth century, and thus wrongly assume that the first Muslims in America were those immigrants. The reality, however, is that Islam has been in America for far longer than that. Besides possible pre-Colombian Muslim explorers from al-Andalus and West Africa, Islam arrived on America’s shores in waves through the Atlantic slave trade from the sixteenth through nineteenth centuries. While hundreds of thousands of slaves arrived in America during this time, the stories of only a few have been preserved and are known today. One of the most enduring and unique is that of Bilali Muhammad.


The Slave Trade

A slave auction advertisement from Charleston, South Carolina in 1769.

As European nations began to colonize the New World in the 1500s, a demand for cheap labor arose. Plantations, mines, and farms needed workers throughout North and South America, and the native population of the New World proved unsuitable due to their lack of immunity to European diseases. As a result, European powers such as Britain, France, Portugal, and Spain looked south, towards Africa, for a source of slave labor they could exploit.

Thus, European slave traders began arriving at ports in Africa, looking to buy slaves. Generally, Europeans did not go and capture slaves themselves. Instead, they would commonly pay local rulers to go to war with other African states, capture warriors, and sell them to be taken to America. The African rulers would be paid commonly in weapons, which would further perpetuate the cycle of violence and enslavement. The entire system worked to handicap Africa’s social, political, and economic development, and the results of this genocide are still felt in Africa today.

Estimates vary, but over 12 million Africans were probably forcibly taken from their homelands to serve as slaves in America, with as many as 20% of them dying on the trans-Atlantic journey known as the Middle Passage. Since much of the slave trade was focused on West Africa, a large number of those slaves were undoubtedly Muslim. The savanna kingdoms of Mali and Songhai had long been centers of Islamic civilization in West Africa and a huge Muslim population existed in the region.

Bilali Muhammad
One of the many Muslim slaves taken to America was Bilali Muhammad. He was from the Fulbe tribe and was born around 1770 in the city of Timbo, in what is now Guinea. He came from a well-educated family, and received a high level of education himself in Africa before being captured as a slave some time in the late 1700s. He was fluent in the Fula language along with Arabic, and had knowledge of high level Islamic studies, including Hadith, Shari’ah, and Tafsir. How he was captured is unknown, but he was originally taken to an island plantation in the Caribbean, and by 1802, he arrived at Sapelo Island, off the coast of Georgia in the southern United States.

At Sapelo Island, Bilali was fortunate enough to have Thomas Spalding as a slave owner. While conditions across the South were horrendous for slaves, who were forced to work throughout the day and were commonly denied such basic necessities as clothes and stable shelter, Spalding gave certain freedoms to his slaves that were absent elsewhere. He did not push the slaves to work more than six hours per day, had no white slave drivers, and even allowed his Muslim slaves to practice their religion openly, a rare freedom in the deeply Christian South. Bilali was even allowed to construct a small mosque on the plantation, which very well may have been the first mosque in North America.

Because of Bilali’s relatively high level of education, he rose to the top of the slave community, and was relied upon by his owner to take care of much of the administration of the plantation and its few hundred slaves. Perhaps the most remarkable account of Bilali Muhammad’s leadership and trustworthiness occurred during the War of 1812 between the United States and the United Kingdom. Spalding reportedly left the plantation with his family, fearing a British attack, and put Bilali in charge of the plantation’s defense. He even gave Bilali 80 muskets to defend the island with, which were distributed among the plantation’s Muslim population. Bilali kept true to his word and managed the plantation while his owner was gone and turned it back over to Spalding after the war. The fact that a slave owner trusted his slaves so much as to give them control of the plantation along with weapons speaks volumes about the character and trustworthiness of Bilali Muhammad.

The Bilali Document
As a well-educated Muslim from West Africa, Bilali no doubt brought his Islamic education with him to America. This is evidenced by a thirteen-page manuscript he wrote and gifted to a southern writer, Francis Robert Goulding, before he died in 1857. The manuscript was written in Arabic, and was thus unreadable for most Americans for decades. It made its way eventually to the Georgia State Library by 1931, who attempted to decipher the manuscript, which was popularly believed to have been Bilali’s diary.


The Bilali Document of Bilali Muhammad

After years of effort that involved numerous scholars as far away as al-Azhar University in Egypt, scholars finally managed to decipher the manuscript. It turned out that it wasn’t a diary at all, but was actually a copy of passages from a treatise on Islamic law in the Maliki madhab written by a Muslim scholar of fiqh, Ibn Abu Zayd al-Qairawani in Tunisia in the 900s. The Risala of Ibn Abu Zayd was a part of the West African law curriculum prevalent in Bilali’s homeland in the 1700s when he was a student. When he came to America as a slave, he was of course unable to bring any personal belongings with him, and thus his copy of the Risala was written entirely from memory decades after he learned it in West Africa. This exemplifies the level of knowledge present in West Africa, even as it was ravaged by the Atlantic slave trade.

The Bilali Document is thus probably the first book of Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh) ever written in the United States. And while Islam slowly died out among the African American community in the United States in the nineteenth century, it is important to recognize and appreciate the stories of the the first American Muslims. They were not a small, inconsequential group. They numbered hundreds of thousands and despite almost insurmountable difficulties, they struggled to preserve their Islamic heritage under the oppression of slavery. The story of Bilali Muhammad is a perfect example of the efforts of this early American Muslim community, one that could inspire American Muslims of the present, whether they be of African descent or not.

http://lostislamichistory.com/the-first-muslim-american-scholar-bilali-muhammad/


In 1803, Bilali (Ben Ali) Muhammad and his family arrived in Georgia on Sapelo Island. Bilali Muhammad was a Fula from Timbo Futa-Jallon in present day Guinea-Conakry. By 1806 he became the plantation manager for Thomas Spalding, a prominent Georgian master. Bilali and his wife Phoebe had 12 sons and 7 daughters. One of his sons is reported as being Aaron of Joel Chandler Harris’ work, author of Uncle Remus and Br’er Rabbit stories. His daughters" names were Margaret, Hester, Charlotte, Fatima, Yoruba, Medina, and Bint. All his daughters but Bint could speak English, French, Fula, Gullah, and Arabic. Bilali was well educated in Islamic law. While enslaved Bilali became the community leader and Imam of at least 80 men. During the War of 1812 Bilali told his slave master that he had 80 men of the true faith to help defend the land against the British.

Bilali was known for regularly wearing his fez, a long coat, praying five times a day facing the east, fasting during the month of Ramadan, and celebrating the two holidays when they came. Bilali was buried with his Qur’an and prayer rug. In 1829 Bilali wrote a 13 page hand written Arabic text book called a "Risala" about some of the laws of Islam and Islamic living. The book is known as Ben Ali's "Diary", housed today at the University of Georgia in Athens.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilali_Document
 

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Though in some studies they specially state "Yoruba".

Also I was reading through this thread non Forum Biodiversity(not a favorite site of mines).
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sh...reakdown-of-SSA-for-Aframs-CV-s-PR-s-and-DR-s

And the OP claims he AA's hav e the most samples and they have the least Sahelian ancestry/admixture during the discussion.

He was using ancestrydna which is iirc is private company and I think he himself was doing the sampling on a computer to find out. Plus I found some of his sampling strange. AA's having significant amount of Beninese ancestry(when that group hardly entered the USA) and Jamaicans having very little Akan ancestry.

Your thoughts? It was a long discussion...

Ehh, like I said I'm not too versed on the genetics aspect of it, especially given high amount of variation between this dna study and the next one. To me the volatility and inconsistency makes them unreliable for pinpointing specific ethnic group origins of Afro-diasporans.
 
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Ehh, like I said I'm not too versed on the genetics aspect of it, especially given high amount of variation between this dna study and the next one. To me the volatility and inconsistency makes them unreliable for pinpointing specific ethnic group origins of Afro-diasporans.
So do you think the OP in the thread and others are wrong to come to a fixed conclusion that AA's do not have significant Sahelian ancestry? Just asking for your opinion.
 

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So do you think the OP in the thread and others are wrong to come to a fixed conclusion that AA's do not have significant Sahelian ancestry?.

Yes, I think it's a mistake to interpret that single dna study with a fixed sample size, when there are other's that contradict it, as well as it being contradictory to all of the primary documentation out there on the origins of the Africans that came to the US.
 

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Yes, I think it's a mistake to interpret that single dna study with a fixed sample size, when there are other's that contradict it, as well as it being contradictory to all of the primary documentation out there on the origins of the Africans that came to the US.

Like I said I think it was the OP who was just using his data from his computer. I couldnt really follow his words as they were confusing and so were his sampling. One minute he would say AA's have the least amount of Sahelian ancestry in the Americas then he would say AA's have the most Mali ancestry of the Americas. I was kinda lost.

Anyways heres one of the post where he agrees AA's have the most Malian ancestry in the Americas.
I think the Afram samples are quite random and from all over the country, shouldn't be any real bias there. Looking only at the Senegal % it's sort of less than i had expected, however like i said 2/3 of slaves being exported via Senegambia might have been from the interior. So the Mali % should also be considered eventhough it's quite shakey. Taken together Senegal + Mali are almost 20% for Aframs. Of course it could be that Mali is capturing some other ancestry as well as i suspected for the Anglo Carribeans. But i'm guessing Aframs should be among the ones with the highest share of genuine Malian ancestry in the Americas. This also because of the cultural retention being said to hail from there: the Blues!


Correlating slave trade records with genetics can be tricky indeed though because you can't just assume that it's straightforward. Some factors to take into account being:

  • Sex ratio's of ethnic groups being brought in, females usually having more offspring. Senegambian captives are known to have been mainly male POW's. Unlike the Igbo's who had a more balanced sexratio.
  • Timing of the slave imports, all things being equal there might be a founding effect of early arrivals especially if they were able to set the standards of new creole culture among slaves.
  • Difference in mortality rates caused by slave regime being more brutal in some regions or timeperiods than others or also domestic/urban vs. plantation.


I'm sure there's other factors as well that could explain disproportional genetic impact when comparing with slave trade statistics.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sh...n-of-SSA-for-Aframs-CV-s-PR-s-and-DR-s/page32

He even tries to say correlating slave trade with genetics is tricky.

But I think the main problem is(and I think you said this) people think only Senegambia represents the whole Sahel and Sahelian ethnics, when that is not the case. Notice that his samples(like you said) are regional and there are "Sahelian" ethnic groups in Nigeria. IIRC I remember an AA judge having partial Hausa ancestry from Nigeria.
 

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What is your opinion on this?

Like I said I think it was the OP who was just using his data from his computer. I couldnt really follow his words as they were confusing and so were his sampling. One minute he would say AA's have the least amount of Sahelian ancestry in the Americas then he would say AA's have the most Mali ancestry of the Americas. I was kinda lost.

Anyways heres one of the post where he agrees AA's have the most Malian ancestry in the Americas.


http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sh...n-of-SSA-for-Aframs-CV-s-PR-s-and-DR-s/page32

He even tries to say correlating slave trade with genetics is tricky.

But I think the main problem is(and I think you said this) people think only Senegambia represents the whole Sahel and Sahelian ethnics, when that is not the case. Notice that his samples(like you said) are regional and there are "Sahelian" ethnic groups in Nigeria. IIRC I remember an AA judge having partial Hausa ancestry from Nigeria.
 

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What is your opinion on this?
Really depends on the individual in my opinion. I tried to find some info on the correlation of the states regions and African regions. Only things I notice were that:

- The longer your family has been in the US generation wise the more likely you would have Senegambian/Sahelian roots. Since that port pretty much was the only slave port around 1600- early mid 1700
- Louisiana/Mississippi has number have the large number of Senegambian/Sahelian roots but that doesn't many other US regions didn't not have Senegambian/Sahelian slaves. It was a mixed bag.

I feel like you going to see more Senegambian/Sahelian ancestry in AA's but more Berber Ancestry in the
Spanish speaking caribbean. ( not much though)

I think thats where things get tricky. They look at that canary lsland/beber ancestry and say "oh this is "Real Sahelian Ancestry" :mjlol: I feel like they let the cac perspectives dictate there conclusions.

They also focus too much on the modern day locations and try to equate to the same boundaries in the past.
The low percentage of Senegal in AA's does NOT mean less AA's came from Senegambia . What was Senegambia during the slave trade and can we trust the maps drawn up by Europeans? I mean these MF's referred to north africans as Berbers( barbarians) causes they could not pronounce Amazighs.
We have to look at the test group for Senegal what tribes/groups were tested ? What extactly does Senegal entail? What is the test group for each SSA region?
 

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Gerhard Kubik on the origins of African-American of two vocal styles



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Apparently they were largely replaced by the coming of large scale manufacturing of the harmonica. You know how those AA bluesmen love their harmonicas.

A little something related to the above posts I quoted by you


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Shout band

Sound
Shout Music is a type of gospel music characterized by very fast tempo, chromatic basslines, snare hits and hand claps on the upbeat of each beat. The organ typically plays dominant 7 chords while improvising over blues riffs. The pianist typically plays counter rhythms to the established rhythmic structure. There are many variations of this particular style of music. Often gospel artists will break into Shout Music at the end of a song or as a finale. Shout Music is used as a bed for vocal riffing and calling out of catch phrases, or "shouting."

While shout bands became prevalent during the 1920s and 1930s, by the 1960s the trombone, which allows for a wide range of emotive expression, emerged as the lead instrument within the shout band. Large groups of trombones are treated almost as a vocal choir, each with its own part.

Upbeat and engaging, shout band music consists of three sections: the recitive and call, which involves a musical statement from the trombones; the aria, which develops the melody and tempo; and the shout, the ending call-and-response. As the song progresses, the sound intensifies from a whisper at the beginning to an exuberant crescendo during the shout.

Technique
The actual sound that is produced by playing is different from the strict and predesignated sound of most music. Shout band music is made to closely emulate the exact sound and techniques used by the voices of singers and choirs, including but not limited to vibratos, slurs, and glissandi. This is the primary reason that a trombone is typically found as the lead instrument.











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Inhaling the Blues: How Southern Black Musicians Transformed the Harmonica

In the early 20th-century, southern black musicians found the devil in the harmonica. The cheap and portable instrument was made by Germans for use in traditional European waltzes and marches, but when it made its way to America’s Southern neighborhoods, black musicians began to develop a totally new way of playing, which bent the harmonica’s sound (quite literally) to fit the style of the country’s increasingly popular “devil’s music,” or rather, the blues

What inspired this album?

As a teacher, I found the harmonica to have one of the most interesting traditions. When African Americans picked up the instrument in the 20th-century, they completely transformed it into something it had never been intended to be played as in Europe. To me, that is such a remarkable demonstration of the power of tradition. You don’t just take and play an instrument the way it was built to be played. The music is inside you, and you take that instrument and you try to recreate the way you think music should be played. That’s what African Americans did.

How was the harmonica originally intended to be played?

The harmonica is a transverse reed instrument that was invented in Germany in the 19th-century by clock makers. There are many different kinds, but the one that took off was made by Hohner, who started to mass produce his models. Harmonicas come in a variety of keys, and they are created to be played in those keys—so if you have a C harmonica, you play in the key of C by blowing through the reeds.

What did African American musicians change?

African American traditions use a different scale than European traditions, so they could not play some of their notes on the harmonica. That is, until someone figured out that you could bend a harmonica’s notes. If you play a harmonica backwards—that is, suck air in, in what is now called “cross harp” or “second position”—you can take notes and force them down a pitch or two. It’s really a completely different technique. It coincides with this love for instruments to sound like the voice, to make the instrument say what you say, and to make it warmer, more expressive of the voice’s emotional timbres. In the blues, a harmonica can cry and whoop and holler.


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smith...ns-transformed-the-harmonica-39410916/?no-ist


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Very good point. :smile:

Really depends on the individual in my opinion. I tried to find some info on the correlation of the states regions and African regions. Only things I notice were that:

- The longer your family has been in the US generation wise the more likely you would have Senegambian/Sahelian roots. Since that port pretty much was the only slave port around 1600- early mid 1700
- Louisiana/Mississippi has number have the large number of Senegambian/Sahelian roots but that doesn't many other US regions didn't not have Senegambian/Sahelian slaves. It was a mixed bag.

I feel like you going to see more Senegambian/Sahelian ancestry in AA's but more Berber Ancestry in the
Spanish speaking caribbean. ( not much though)

I think thats where things get tricky. They look at that canary lsland/beber ancestry and say "oh this is "Real Sahelian Ancestry" :mjlol: I feel like they let the cac perspectives dictate there conclusions.
I'm guessing from this you actually read through the thread in the link. Yeah the people on Forum Biodiversity have this weird view of what a Sahelian is. Even correlating it to a freaking phenotype!!!:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy: To them this represents a "true" Sahelian...
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Meanwhile these Hausa's and Songhai people are just as "Sahelian".
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Yet they don't have a stereotypical "Sahelid" look! LOL!!!!

And lets not forget that South Carolina too had a significant number of Africans from the Sahel mainly Senegambia. They were needed for the rice plantations.

They also focus too much on the modern day locations and try to equate to the same boundaries in the past.
Indeed. People like the "Mandinka" actually lived further north in the Sahel.

The low percentage of Senegal in AA's does NOT mean less AA's came from Senegambia . What was Senegambia during the slave trade and can we trust the maps drawn up by Europeans? I mean these MF's referred to north africans as Berbers( barbarians) causes they could not pronounce Amazighs.
We have to look at the test group for Senegal what tribes/groups were tested ? What extactly does Senegal entail? What is the test group for each SSA region?

Like I said his samples were not elaborated in terms of ethnic groups. They were just regional.

Also as for this study.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907010

Could it simply be that Nigeria are intermediate between Senegambia and Angola/Central Africa? Not only that, but they only state "Nigerian".

And like you said it depends on the individual.
 

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Very good point. :smile:


I'm guessing from this you actually read through the thread in the link. Yeah the people on Forum Biodiversity have this weird view of what a Sahelian is. Even correlating it to a freaking phenotype!!!:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy: To them this represents a "true" Sahelian...



Like I said his samples were not elaborated in terms of ethnic groups. They were just regional.

Also as for this study.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907010

Could it simply be that Nigeria are intermediate between Senegambia and Angola/Central Africa? Not only that, but they only state "Nigerian".

And like you said it depends on the individual.


:patrice:I want to say Nigeria is an intermediate but isn't the ancestral proto-Bantu homeland in West Africa near the present-day Nigeria and Cameroon? How does the SE bantu DNA look compared with an Nigerian?
It does make you wonder if African -Americans are a true mixture of West Africans groups or this "Nigerian" group is the intermediate between groups, Thus why Africans DNA is mixed.
How does African Americans DNA team up with Native West Africans? They never address this.



Also Tuaregs state they originate from Fezzan region of Libya but I think those are paintinga in Tassili-n-Ajjer are proto Fulani.
Fulani are said to be most closely related to that of the Wolof and Serer ethnic groups. I know there is a lot of speculation around Fulani origin. Are Fulani are sub group of Wolof/ Serer or a separate group?

Tuaregs and Fulani see themselves as nomadic family. I known this is not a popular opinion but I do believe genetically Tuaregs are just a mixed subgroup of the Fulani. I could never say that on Forum Biodiversity all hell would break loose. :obama:
 

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:patrice:I want to say Nigeria is an intermediate but isn't the ancestral proto-Bantu homeland in West Africa near the present-day Nigeria and Cameroon? How does the SE bantu DNA look compared with an Nigerian?
It does make you wonder if African -Americans are a true mixture of West Africans groups or this "Nigerian" group is the intermediate between groups, Thus why Africans DNA is mixed.
How does African Americans DNA team up with Native West Africans? They never address this.

Agreed they never address it. Are they looking at Nigeria as a monolithic entity and not specific region? I mean Nigeria is one of the most diverse countries in Africa.

But in your opinion, do you think AA's have significant Sahelian ancestry? Or less? Sahelian as in I don't just mean Senegambia but also Northern Nigeria, Northern Ghana, Guinea, Niger and Burkina Faso.


Also Tuaregs state they originate from Fezzan region of Libya but I think those are paintinga in Tassili-n-Ajjer are proto Fulani.
Fulani are said to be most closely related to that of the Wolof and Serer ethnic groups. I know there is a lot of speculation around Fulani origin. Are Fulani are sub group of Wolof/ Serer or a separate group?

Tuaregs and Fulani see themselves as nomadic family. I known this is not a popular opinion but I do believe genetically Tuaregs are just a mixed subgroup of the Fulani. I could never say that on Forum Biodiversity all hell would break loose. :obama:

Doubt it. Tuaregs are the oldest Berber group. But more importantly they carry signature Berber marker E-M81 in high frequency. They may have obtained some admixture from Fulani's, but that's about it. Meanwhile Fulani's carry E1b1a in high frequencies. Tuaregs near Niger-Congo speakers like the Tuaregs from Niger seem to have the most "Niger-Congo" admixture, while Tuaregs in Algeria, Libya and even Northern Mali mostly have Berber admixture.
 
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