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WTF was taken out of context? I asked you about the BLACK Dravidians and you come up with goose egg. and the fact that they are STILL being treated like that in India speaks volumes. Gandhi ain't do shyt for 'em, and while the call the quotes out of context they reflect a PRESENT reality, all these decades later.
answer my mugfugging question b.
You claimed that Gandhi said Negroid Dalits were an inferior race. That was complete BS, and I already showed with multiple quotes and links that Gandhi didn't believe in any inferior races. You took an out-of-context quote where Gandhi was telling American missionaries to stop trying to indoctrinate uneducated people with propaganda, and tried to turn that into Gandhi saying something about their inherent IQ. That was a straight lie, and you would know that if you read the link I sent you with the whole conversation.
Here's some more from Gandhi's relationships with Dravidians in
South Africa:
"I wanted to learn Tamil, only to enable me to study Valluvar’s Thirukkural through his mother tongue itself.There is no one who has given such treasure of wisdom like him." - Mahatma Gandhi
"No other Indians can equal the performance of the Tamils in this fight. It therefore occurred to me that I should read Tamil with close attention, if for no other reason than to tender sincere thanks to them at least mentally. Accordingly, the last one month was devoted mostly to the study of Tamil. The more I learn it, the better I appreciate the beauties of this language. It is a very fine and sweet language, and from its structure and from what I have read in it, I find that the Tamils have produced, and still produce, a large number of intelligent, thoughtful and wise men. Moreover, since India is going to be one country, some Indians outside Madras should also learn Tamil."
With the knowledge he gained, he was able to teach Tamil to the Tamilian children in the Tolstoy Farm.
He said in a speech at Dakshin Bharat Hindi Prachar Sabha in Madras on 26 March 1937:
“Indeed there was a time when I could speak in Tamil quite as well as I am now speaking Hindi. I had sufficient material when I was in South Africa to assist me in this, because I had to work in the midst of Tamils. but I must confess, to my regret and shame, that I have not kept up touch with it and have forgotten what little I knew of that language.”
At a farewell meeting of the Tamil community in Johannesburg on July 15, 1914, Gandhi said that the Tamils bore the brunt of the satyagraha struggle and that he felt he came to the meeting to meet his “blood-brothers.” He said in an interview to a Tamil correspondent in Rangoon on 12 March 1915: “I consider that I have more in common with the Tamil community than with any other.”
Gandhi often praised the Tamils for their sacrifice. He wrote in Indian Opinion (5 June 1909): "No other Indians can equal the performance of the Tamils in this fight.”
The heroism of the Tamils, especially the poor workers and hawkers, had great influence on Gandhi. He said at a farewell meeting in Durban on 9 July 1914: "In the van of the satyagraha battle were Indians born here and among them particularly the poor and the simple people rendered great services. The rich were busy getting richer." And he declared at a London reception on 8 August 1914:
"There were 20,000 strikers who left their tools and work because there was something in the air... These men and women are the salt of India; on them will be built the Indian nation that is to be. We are poor mortals before these heroes and heroines."
Gandhi wrote in Satyagraha in South Africa:
“Valliamma R. Munuswami Mudaliar was a young girl of Johannesburg only sixteen years of age. She was confined to bed when I saw her. As she was a tall girl, her emaciated body was a terrible thing to behold.
‘Valliamma, you do not repent of your having gone to jail?’ I asked.
‘Repent? I am even now ready to go to jail again if I am arrested,’ said Valliamma.
“But what if it results in your death?’ I pursued.
‘I do not mind it. Who would not love to die for one’s motherland?’ was the reply.
“Within a few days after this conversation Valliamma was no more with us in the flesh, but she left us the heritage of an immortal name…. And the name of Valliamma will live in the history of South African Satyagraha as long as India lives.”
He cherished the memory of his association with Tamils in South Africa. He wrote in his autobiography:
“The affection that the Dravidians in South Africa showered on me has remained a cherished memory. Whenever I see a Tamil or Telugu friend, I cannot but recall the faith, perseverance and selfless sacrifice of many of his compatriots in South Africa. And they were mostly illiterate, the men no less than the women. The fight in South Africa was for such, and it was fought by illiterate soldiers; it was for the poor, and the poor took their full share in it.”
Yeah, Gandhi talking about those ignorant Dravidians that he hated and didn't want to struggle with...
I never called DuBois, Hughes, etc, ignorant. but just like Obama and King they didn't know the man's real views.
do better my g.
"W.E.B. DuBois wasn't ignorant, he just didn't know."
What do you think "ignorant", means? W.E.B. DuBois knew a hundred times more about Gandhi's real views than you do, and you come all in here acting like you're better than him because you read some out-of-context hate piece on the internet.
Learn some freaking history. You all acting like our heroes of that era were a bunch of backwater fools who didn't know world politics and who didn't read everything. Those guys were fully up-to-date on the events in South Africa and India, the things that Gandhi was writing were well-circulated, they spoke with him and met with him theirselves.
I mean, we're even talking about AFRICANS in Africa, specifically SOUTH AFRICANS. And you yourself say, "he used the newspaper he wrote for as a soapbox to drag us through the fukking mud." But somehow these South Africans from Gandhi's own era were too stupid to know the things you think you learned off the internet.
Give it up. Why should I keep feeding you quote and quote and link after link disproving every narrative you throw out there when you just ignore the evidence to believe whatever some internet troll wants you to believe?
Of course the thread didn't do numbers after I showed them the truth, it was backtracking,denials,attacks and slick talk to try and deny what I showed.......
