Let's keep it 100: Hip-Hop is not a culture.
- Thread starter Mandarin Duck
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we don't own anything in hip hop
#FreeSimon
You mean we don't own anything in Rap Music. The only thing you really need in Hip Hop is creativity and a drive to hone your skills/participate in some capicity.
Heads are thriving away from the music industry with rap, visual arts, dance, philosophy ect....how in the fukk is it a genre of music when there is Hip Hop going on without any music present at all? And I mean if you wanna make it about money there's money to be made but the CULTURE is about participation, it's about your lifestyle, your influences and how you throw them back at the world.
nikkas who have this "it's just a genre of music" only interact with the supposed culture when it's time to exchange money for product, that is NOT what this is about.
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Lord Mecca
Eyes May Shine
do you know what the definition of culture is? And you tell me what culture hasn't been exploited for their art, knowledge etc., from "outsiders" for financial gain? None. There is not one. We're talking about a culture that gains traction through media outlets and distribution centres which are not owned or ran by said culture, therefore there will always and forever be tainted hands involved who butcher the meaning of the culture for their own personal gain. That's exactly what happens with culture.
Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
Well yes
Social media has become a huge part of everyone's lives so the absence of Hip-hop culture outside of rap music would lead many to rightfully believe it is at the very least rapidly declining in popularity and at the most completely dead.
Well yes
Social media has become a huge part of everyone's lives so the absence of Hip-hop culture outside of rap music would lead many to rightfully believe it is at the very least rapidly declining in popularity and at the most completely dead.
But it's not...not at all and part of my mission is to divert people's attention away from the bullshyt. I don't mean any harm, I really don't, but that's what makes my heart beat when I wake up in the morning, no lie.
Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
And who's fault is that?
How come at no point none of the acts from the older generation said "fukk your, fukk MTV and fukk media outlets we doin own, we doing own own shyt"?
Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
Come on now Breh.
You have to admit that the culture labeled "hip-hop" is nowhere near as popular now as it was in the 80's
Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
@SunZooCome on now Breh.
You have to admit that the culture labeled "hip-hop" is nowhere near as popular now as it was in the 80's
Come on now Breh.
You have to admit that the culture labeled "hip-hop" is nowhere near as popular now as it was in the 80's
It certainty looks that way but how do you explain somebody like Loaded Lux being able to go and get 10, 20, 30k without the permission of the music industry? I mean...reality TV is scripted bro...reality TV is scripted.
But Hip Hop is everywhere, when the last time you even thought to find out where the art, the dance or the rap is in your town? Or even the stand ups, comedy is/can be Hip Hop. I mean I do a lil bit but I wanna do more, I wanna encourage people to do more. You look at how media is, a lot of people don't even get their "news" from the news anymore...the pendulum is swinging back to the people and when it comes back they won't even know what to do with it. They want to make it look "unpopular" because they can't really press up and package the other shyt.
Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
I will admit some people view hip-hop as a culture enough for battle rap to still be relevant.It certainty looks that way but how do you explain somebody like Loaded Lux being able to go and get 10, 20, 30k without the permission of the music industry? I mean...reality TV is scripted bro...reality TV is scripted.
But Hip Hop is everywhere, when the last time you even thought to find out where the art, the dance or the rap is in your town? Or even the stand ups, comedy is/can be Hip Hop. I mean I do a lil bit but I wanna do more, I wanna encourage people to do more. You look at how media is, a lot of people don't even get their "news" from the news anymore...the pendulum is swinging back to the people and when it comes back they won't even know what to do with it. They want to make it look "unpopular" because they can't really press up and package the other shyt.
But is that enough?
Is the popularity of battle rap enough to say that hip-hop, culturally speaking, is relevant?
At least still relevant amongst blacks?
I say that because it seems like so many other races of people still practice the elements of hip-hop but not so much blacks.
Cacs, Asians and Mexicans are the majority of your B-Boys and graffiti artist of today
Not a culture
Guess these origins just came out of thin air
Guess these origins just came out of thin air
People are getting their "news" from facebook more so than CNN now a days according to some articles.
If some of them are able to clear that kind of money or less there has to be an audience big enough that warrants that amount right? I mean what...2-3 verses that you get to work on for months at a time without worrying about industry shyt like sales, politics and contracts.
You see...this is going to be the biggest hurdle to get over...this false sense of ownership that kind of lulls everybody to sleep to the reality. Like the NBA being 85-90% black on the players side means it's a "black" sport.
I don't keep up with all the "blacks" to know what's relevant to their lives man...but I just told you there is Hip Hop taking place away from the music industry and you basically replied with "Yeah, but do black people care?"
Do black people care about Hip Hop? Why wouldn't they? You might not get that impression from the media though.
That's why the racial shyt is the biggest hurdle.
Dressing rap music up as the culture itself implies ownership, emotional, historical attachment. Some rappers don't even own their stage names. It's a business and we have about as much ownership over the supposed "culture" as we do the NBA. The idea that we don't care about all the other aspects of the culture comes from what I just said...lack of exposure due to the fact that you can't pick up and package a real person like you can a recording.
People are already frustrated (too many albums, that album came and went!, plants! Fruits!)
They just don't know what to do now that the rest of the media is starting to lose it's ability to hold people's attention like it used to. Hip Hop can't help but be affected by all this.
Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
Here's the thing about these 2 points you made.
This proves the importance of social media at least from a standpoint of understand what is culturally important to people of all demographics.
Based on my social media followers and the people I follow I can give you somewhat of an idea of what is still seen as relevant to black people.
From an entertainment and more serious means of relevancy.
From as serious as police brutality to as meaningless as what songs are popular. Social media has kept me updated on what people care about.
While I have seen people post battle rap I've never seen anyone post anything pertaining to hip-hop culture outside of that and rap music.
That's what's leading me to believe the "culture" of hip-hop has and continues to decline