Let us relive this classic: Mike Tyson vs Razor Ruddock 1

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NormanConnors said:
That wasn't a prime Tyson that fought razor, he did take razors prime starting with this fight and the rematch
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Whose fault was that?
On top of that same issue were shown in the Pinklon fight IMHO.

NormanConnors said:
The mental part didn't start until after prison, post prison Mike would've folded from those punches Razor tagged him with:manny:
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I disagree, Tyson took greater damage from Lennox before he was removed from his senses.
 
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no Lebron is not > than Jordan...


oh an actual thread without Jordan or Lebron referenced?
 
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O Fenômeno said:
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No it isn't
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Name a ATG in their prime that he fought and out of the ones he fought name how many times he won.
Fact of the matter is his resume is terrible when evaluating a ATG or trying to make a case he is one of the greatest HW of all time.
He was a excellent figure and had fame but he fought no one of note in his career and fizzled out so quickly that its hard to place him among the sports elite.
 
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David_TheMan said:
Name a ATG in their prime that he fought and out of the ones he fought name how many times he won.
Fact of the matter is his resume is terrible when evaluating a ATG or trying to make a case he is one of the greatest HW of all time.
He was a excellent figure and had fame but he fought no one of note in his career and fizzled out so quickly that its hard to place him among the sports elite.
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How did he fizzle out quickly when he had damn near a decade of dominance? Even if you say he fought no one of note in his prime, he was still dismantling those dude with the quickness. You couldn't even leave the room to get your snacks during Iron Mike bout. He was not letting those "no ones" as you out it, go 5-7 rounds with him.
 
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Marcelrellu said:
Mike Tyson hit hard and was only knocked down by Lewis and Douglas after rounds of abuse. Foreman gets hit by a couple of Mike upper cut it's going down quick ijs perhaps I'm underatting his chin but he not beating mike
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tyson also was KD by holyfield and danny williams and those 2 didnt need rounds of abuse to do it
 
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nieman said:
How did he fizzle out quickly when he had damn near a decade of dominance? Even if you say he fought no one of note in his prime, he was still dismantling those dude with the quickness. You couldn't even leave the room to get your snacks during Iron Mike bout. He was not letting those "no ones" as you out it, go 5-7 rounds with him.
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He didn't have a decade of dominance, you don't know what you are talking about.
HE had 4 years of dominance in which the only ATG he fought was a out of prime and near shot Holmes. That is it.
You will not be evaluated and placed with the boxing HW greats if you don't have any ATGs on the resume, especially no wins, on top of that he couldn't even say he had a long reign, 4 year span, his shined brightly and burned out quickly.

The fact that you want to talk about popularity and not quality of wins tells me all I need to know.
 
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