Jimmy Henchman Confesses To Planning 1994 Tupac Shooting

[havoc]

This isn't new. It is fukk up that Pac knew who set him up and didn't took his issue straight to Jimmy Henchmen. Biggie would have been alive today if Pac didn't dragged his name into the mud. In addition, a key factor we shouldn't forget, Biggie forewarned Tupac to not get involved with Henchmen and Tut. What Tupac did to Biggie was a snake move. I wouldn't call Tupac a strategist like some of you dudes in this thread. If was a smart tactical individual, Tupac would have picked his battle wisely, and survive from the wickedness of the rap game.

 

[Flav]

If Pac was scared of Jimmy Henchman then explain "Against All Odds".

Dear Fans and the FBI...

If i die please look into the names i listed in this song to find connections to my killer.I know they are going to kill me one day but ill be damned if they get away clean.Im not snitching im just telling my life story.

Thank You,
Tupac Shakur aka Makaveli the don

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Big warned him bout Haitian Jack and em..
Pac wanted to street rep ...so he didnt listen
Jack and his animals raped that ho and threw Pac in the bushes
Pac tried to call Jack a rat and got clapped

This isn't new. It is fukk up that Pac knew who set him up and didn't took his issue straight to Jimmy Henchmen. Biggie would have been alive today if Pac didn't dragged his name into the mud. In addition, a key factor we shouldn't forget, Biggie forewarned Tupac to not get involved with Henchmen and Tut. What Tupac did to Biggie was a snake move. I wouldn't call Tupac a strategist like some of you dudes in this thread. If was a smart tactical individual, Tupac would have picked his battle wisely, and survive from the wickedness of the rap game.

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

If Pac knew that Jack was a rat, the only thing he could do was go at him and BadBoy on wax. Let y'all tell it and you'd have people thinking he had Pac scared to death, despite the fact that he was one of the only person willing to call him out.........besides 50 Curly Curtis?


Reckless? Yup
Paranoid? Justifiably so
Scared?


What kind of grown man is gonna allow himself to be "disciplined" without fighting back?

 

[R=G]

Tupac wasn't scared of Henchmen...He ran his mouth way too much to ever let someone have him shook. He was calling out police like it wasn't shyt Going at Senators..lol. Biggie and Puffy? Likely but Pac? Nah...you taking hearsay too seriously.

 

[Youngblood Priest]

Folks get it twisted. If Pac was afraid of Jimmy and all he wouldn't have bucked on them. Jimmy and haitian had new york rappers shook. That's why for all the bs nikkaz say about Pac being scared is stupid. He's the only rapper I know of that didn't back down from them dudes. Buff and Piggie was controlled by dude, so saying Pac was wrong for blasting on them fools is stupid also.

 

[Exiled Martian]

Pac never talked to Biggie, that conversation seen in the movie never happened. Fatal explains this.

I remember reading this somewhere too. To the posters that are trying to back Biggie's case on some 'bu bu but Biggie tried to warn him on some don't roll with dem man there' this conversation apparently never occurred, its just Hollywood gloss to make big poppa look prominent.

In fact I recommend if you read the this article to get a better understanding of the relationship dynamics : LINK

If you pushed for time here are the cliffs;


-Haitian Jack a big time gangster (stick up kid) in early 90's New York, and used to run with Jimmy Henchmen.

-Haitian Jack was feared in the streets and used to strong arm rappers and hood celebrities (apparently stole 10K and a Rolex from diddy)

-Haitian Jack ingratiates himself to Notorious BIG, and Diddy. (He also has ties to Mike Tyson...and later on is implicated in the murder of Ty'sons bodyguard. Mike puts a 100k bounty on his head)

-Notorious BIG links up with Tupac, they start performing together...eventually he introduces Pac to Haitian Jack

-Pac and Haitian Jack become fast friends, Haitian leaches of Pac...Pac lives vicariously through Haitian's 'thug' reputation.

-One night Haitian and Pac are partying, and a woman cries rape...Pac goes to jail for a long stint, Haitian gets a few months (Pac claims 'snitch'). In between the trial and sentencing Pac starts dry snitching on Haitian. Haitian takes offense, orcherstrates a studio meetup with Bad Boy and Pac (Pac is shot 7? times but survives).

-Pac spends time in prison and is heavily leaned on by Haitian's peoples. Until Suge Knight comes to bail him out.

-There's more but read for yourself or else the cliffs would be pointless (e.g. James Woods gave early warnings of 9/11, 50 cent almost gets killed, hamas sells drugs, Madonna and Pac etc)

^^^ So if the bolded is true, then how the fukk can you blame Pac for going ballistic at Biggie for his 'initial' involvement in brokering this friendship.

He had every right to go HAM at Biggie on principle of friendship/trust etc.

The thing is Pac's trials & tribulations are open to endless debates/discussions/interpretations... we always end up mass speculating to no end when topics like these get regurgitated.

^^^^ Fukked up thing is Makaveli is just laying in the cut sipping some Hennessy in Cuba on the Coli watching this back & forth manifest with no fukks given ...

 

[Ego Noir]

Henchmen had pull like that because he was heavy in the streets, and had a cooperation agreement with the feds, which let him skate on charges a few times... he had street ties in LA to crips and bloods, amongst other things, and the same in NY. Plus, all the contacts, connections and favors that come with being a high level second tier cocaine trafficker, with close relationships to distributors, of all sets, gangs, races. Just look at the details of his trial, he was a boss. He was a snitch, and I don't really respect that shyt, but thats then street. Suge had pull in LA, and elsewhere, and to be honest, Suge and Death Row were with the bullshyt, but local thugs compared to someone like Henchmen. Thats not to say Suge was scared…. the 'street' isn't like its discussed on the internet and in convos: it's not black and white, it's very grey, and the tendency is to want to paint it black/white, which is a misconception right there, that will muddy the whole picture.

thank you. This gives dimension to his power. When you got the feds hands off on your crimes and you are the connect to make all of these hood nikkas get money, id walk around too like a GOD.

henchman had suge shot and disciplined in miami just like he did pac in NY just no jewelry was exchanged


@Nomad1 says this is ducktales though

I never heard of this part. When/how/under what circumstances did Suge get disciplined in Miami?

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Another day, another thread of salty pac haters analyzing his every move in life.


Hes been dead 18 years. Get over it. None of you were there or have any actual knowledge but youre writing up essays about it


Truly the goat

 

[Youngblood Priest]

this. Pac even admitted he did all this for record sales he was a studio gangster. biggie did 2 bids by age 19. pac had a record deal b4 a jail record but let his stans tell it he was holding on to his mama from a jail cell and biggie wasnt real.
while pac was talking and shooting the same finger guns drake use jimmy henchman shot that nikka for real and moved from brooklyn to LA no fux given bout deathrow or pac

NY nikka in CALI wearing Pac's jewelry setting up shop, managing artists and laughing at these clowns making songs promising paybacks... let one of you Pac stans say different
only on the coli can a nikka get shot robbed and punked afterwards again by the same nikka do nothing and he was the "realest" ever and evrybody was scared of him

Pac never portrayed gangster. If them nikkaz were that gangster then understand that pac played his position right. You saying biggie did two bids by the time of 19 huh? Lies bruh, if Pac wasn't a g, then you know damn well big wasn't. Mirror their lives and I would say Pac is/were a little more street than big. I yea, If U On My Homie AND YOUR Folks IS trying to rob me and you don't let me know, I'm coming for your ass too. I swear some of you nikkaz know nothing about street life.

 

[FreshAIG]

People think if you talk back you're not scared lmao...

If you're not scared of someone you don't make songs, you find out where they are and get busy. You don't rap about it. Pac knew Henchman set him up, they had real beef, so you can't use "It's just rap" escuse because Henchman isn't a rapper. He on songs giving the FEDS details on who clapped him. nikka, go get a gun and handle your BI

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

Folks get it twisted. If Pac was afraid of Jimmy and all he wouldn't have bucked on them. Jimmy and haitian had new york rappers shook. That's why for all the bs nikkaz say about Pac being scared is stupid. He's the only rapper I know of that didn't back down from them dudes. Buff and Piggie was controlled by dude, so saying Pac was wrong for blasting on them fools is stupid also.

They go hard at Pac while at the same time justifying Big and Puff's cowardice . I feel for Biggie the most because it looks like he was caught between fear for his own ass and loyalty. At the same time, tryna be sneaky with the whole "Who shot ya" subliminal shyt (which I believe is Puff's doing given his history), he kinda played apart in that whole WWE wax beef

 

[FreshAIG]

Pac never portrayed gangster. If them nikkaz were that gangster then understand that pac played his position right. You saying biggie did two bids by the time of 19 huh? Lies bruh, if Pac wasn't a g, then you know damn well big wasn't. Mirror their lives and I would say Pac is/were a little more street than big. I yea, If U On My Homie AND YOUR Folks IS trying to rob me and you don't let me know, I'm coming for your ass too. I swear some of you nikkaz know nothing about street life.

Biggie did do a bid, that's documented facts. Biggie wasn't a gangster either, he was a local drug dealer but he wasn't no fukking major force in the streets. Biggie is what I would call your average hood nikka. Sold his little drugs, made his money, had a crew. But Biggie wasn't no shooter or nothing like that. Pac was a smart kid, my parents were friends with his Mom so I know he came from a solid home, but they didn't have much money. Neither of them were gangstas, but Biggie lived more of a street life before rap, where Pac was much more militant minded.

 

[Youngblood Priest]

They were cool enough for Pac to eat a gun charge for them. Pac was expecting the same degree of loyalty and it wasn't there...once that was apparent he let him know how he felt

Once he got it off his chest he left him alone. If you notice Puffy was mentioned on 7DT more times than biggie was. And from what the files say puffy not only knew, but probably had an active hand in whatever "discipline" was handed down to Pac when it became clear he wasn't going to rep badboy.

Exactly bruh. Once they did that shyt at that trial, Pac was like fukk these nikkaz. Don't blame em.

 

[Ego Noir]

Some of that was mixed in, but I think Pac saw it as attacking Henchman's bytches(Puffy & BIG).

"I'll destroy everything you touch"

Since Henchman was eating off of BadBoy, it was in Pac's best interest to bring the whole label down.

Pac was a crafty muthafukka(might not have been the wisest dude, tho).He studied books on tactical warfare/strategy.He was sharp enough to know that he couldn't touch Henchman, but he could "destroy everything he touched" by using his music as a weapon.The Machiavellian principle says if you're dealing with a corrupt network, any mean you use to gain power in that network are just.Corruption doesn't respect morality.That's where The Art Of War comes in.Trickery & Misdirection---I think that's where Puff & Big got sacrificed.Not saying it was all trickery, just strategy.

At that point, Pac was struggling financially.He couldn't call for a dialogue with a nikka like Jimmy Henchman.Jimmy had nukes, but Pac didn't have any.The nikka with the nukes can afford to be arrogant.He doesn't have to negotiate with you, he can just bully your few tanks,machine guns, and totally blow you off the map.nikkaz with nukes only sit down and dialogue/negotiate with other nikkaz who have nukes.They know they can end each others reign, so it's best to sit down at the table and form some kind of peace treaty.

Napoleon form the Outlawz said he was sitting in the room when somebody delivered a message to Pac from Jimmy Henchman...something about "You can't go to war with me, you don't have the money" or some shyt like that.

Do I believe Pac could've became a major player in the game like that? I do...I believe, eventually, he would have.

The bolded sounds parallel to the Murder Inc/50 Cent situation.

Just to continue fukking with Preme he kept his foot on their neck. Which is what got 50 eventually smoked.

Im not even west coast nikka and I can see most of y'all ny poster are pathetic making lies on pac but wont say shyt about big


nikka talking about they from the street and how it goes. nikka!!! You aint in the street like that you a house nikka still on your porch. You know of them because they in your neighborhood. You dont get down stop fronting

If you let ur partna get wasted you been a bytch especially if you in the same room with the killers seconds b4 and afterwards

That's a snake. A Backstapper. A flaw ass nikka. A Creep

Make a diss song after he die too? If somebody cosign that you tell the type of fukboy you moving with

Exactly what im thinking.. I undnerstand the circumstances, but there can never be an excuse as to why your friend lets you get shot in the head. Period.

nikkas like that would tell killers the drop on you, fukk around and get you killed, just cause he was scared of the killers rep


fukk Biggie

for tupac shakur, fukk biggie

I'm convinced that the rape case was born out of that element.End of the day, dudes like Jimmy Henchman & Haitian Jack are still the "white man's" bytch.They probably did a few small favors for massa

Lets me real the govt's under the table dealing are always highly intelligent. and weve seen many examples of it in their foreign dealings.

Divide and conquer.

I wouldnt put it past the cia/fbi to straight rush Pac with all these problems all at once. The rape and the 'discipline' all at once, in an effort to switch his focus to those around him. and get him to forget about that black empowerment.

Tupac was fukking dangerous. From what I get of that era brehs were waiting on Pac to issue orders.