Is Group Economics Among Black Americans Just A Pipe Dream?

[Drummage_EL]

you got lashes on your back nikka?

nah they in your head though

nikka you don't have to get beaten to be a damn slave!

 

[bigDeeOT]

Bruhs I am black lol. One day I'll have to make a video for you guys.

Anyway, @cinna_man

Being able to run a fraction of a second faster than anyone else doesn't matter in terms of practical purposes. But it does show that Africans have a genetic advantage over caucasians at sprinting. Black people have an average penis size significantly larger than asians. So from that I will postulate that there is most PROBABLY at least one if not several aspects of our mental state that are different among racial groups.

Perhaps there are racial groups that are more likely to be homosexual, or more likely to be religious, or more likely to have a type A alpha personality type, or more likely to be meek, or more likely to value family relationships. I don't understand how you can say all these things are exactly the same among all races. This is wishful thinking.

"Can you name a single tribe of people that have integrated successfully into a civilization within 300 years?"

Asians did it within the last 50 years come on dude.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Most of what you say is true but I can't agree with the notion that there are no genetic differences among races (if that's what you're saying). I think the reason why so many blacks are in the NBA is partially because blacks are genetically gifted.

Take for instance the 100m sprint. No white person has ever been able to compete with the top 100m sprinters in the world. I don't see how you can say that's due to 100% cultural differences. There has surely been plenty of whites who would have loved to be a world class 100m sprinter. But no matter how hard they try, they will never make it.

No matter what variable you control, blacks consistently score lower on IQ tests. Even if IQ is not equal to intelligence, you still would have to admit that blacks are genetically different from whites and asians on some sort of mental level. Perhaps black people just think "differently." You can't tell me blacks, whites, and asians all think the same way on a genetic level when no matter what variables you control for, blacks and whites score differently.

I think regardless of whether or not what I'm saying is true, a lot of people would never in a million years agree with me. And simply because some truths are too hard to swallow. Its just like religion. People who believe in jesus aren't looking for the truth. Because when their search for the truth leads them to question their beliefs about jesus, it scares them and it hurts their feelings. Same thing with racial issues. A lot of what I say will hurt people's feelings so they refuse to believe it, irrespective of how right I may be.

Exactly what are you trying to accomplish with this? What is your end game goal here? The question begs, and Im surprised this hasnt been asked of you: do you ascribe a lower state of intelligence, and regressive behavioral controls to yourself by virtue of your skin color?

You lump blacks and africans into one state of being, with no variance, with all behaviors and and IQ levels being genetically determined. You somehow dont find this ignorant. A few questions: why arent africans as proficient at basketball like African Americans generally are as a collective. Conversely, why are Africans much better at soccer than African Americans? Why are sprinters predominately spawned from west african countries and regions, while long distance runners are produced in East African regions? Why do south east asians have far more difficulty with crime, academic achievement, and mainstream attainment goals, etc than their western Asian counterparts?

You raise IQ...Have you been exposed to the research by Washington University, which supported the common sense theory that quality of education and environment are far more influential in matters of cognitive ability than pure genetics? What kind of fukking moron still believes that IQ acts in concordance with the color of your goddamn skin?

http://wupa.wustl.edu/record_archive/1997/11-06-97/7682.html

You want to talk about black people this, and black people that? Speak for yourself buddy...that neo-nazi bullsht might go a long way in explaining your lack of abilities, but dont push this on others because of personal self-loathing. Your clown act around here is way tired.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

@bigDeeOT is obviously not black. He's probably a st0rmfr0nt troll. I've seen him in other threads on thecoli making bigoted statements about black people being savages. You can't reason with a white supremacist.

Unfortunately hes actually black...if you google his screen name you'lll find self made videos of him on youtube, where he expresses like minded views. Not as extreme tho.

 

[Drummage_EL]

Abdoulaye Diongue

Unfortunately hes actually black...if you google his screen name you'lll find self made videos of him on youtube, where he expresses like minded views. Not as extreme tho.

I just found his youtube account. Wow! That's a gotdamn shame. bigDeeOT is not the first negro I've seen with that Uncle Ruckus mentality.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Again, you're attitude here is proof-positive that black people are less civilized.

ffs man show a little self pride. Genetically you're no different intellectually than anyone else...or less civilized. People are products of their environment and genetics, as it turns out 100's of years of being told your inferior tend to sink in and is not so easily undone...but you have to start somewhere.

As for the OP question...
I don't see it happening, at least not anytime soon. Lack of leadership, lack of shared goal and people like bigdee, and sadly the "uncivilized" people bigdee is talking about are real and there's a large enough population of them to make things difficult. As I said though you gotta start somewhere and every time someone tries to organize and fails it's another stone in the recreation of what is ultimately sought.

 

[Consigliere]

Basically but alot of people like talking like that is going to make shyt happen all by itself

Sometimes I think the endless talking about problems and shooting down solutions or ignoring places where the problems is already being fixed is part of the psychological warfare that our community is facing. The racial animus and negativity on the internet can be much more vitriolic and prevelent than outside in the real world where people have to look each other in the eye to make their points.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Exactly what are you trying to accomplish with this? What is your end game goal here? The question begs, and Im surprised this hasnt been asked of you: do you ascribe a lower state of intelligence, and regressive behavioral controls to yourself by virtue of your skin color?

My goal is for people base their views of reality on facts and logic, not emotion. A lot of people base their views of the world and how the world OUGHT to be, rather than how it is. If black people are genetically different than others, we should admit it and accept it. Not try to deny reality.

As for myself, I believe that I share the same genes that make other blacks prone to be violent, uncivilized, and lazy. I am a very lazy person, just as a lot of other black people are. But I try to work as hard as I can like other hard working good blacks.

I try to not be violent and I think a big reason why I'm not a violent person is because of the environment I was raised in. I was raised in a family of black people that only associate with whites. My family does not associate with too many other black people, unless they too have majority white friends. I firmly believe if I was raised in an environment filled with ghetto blacks, my true black side would come out. If I was born in the ghetto, I too would be a thug.

I am ok with this reality because simply, what is the alternative? Deny facts of life?

You lump blacks and africans into one state of being, with no variance, with all behaviors and and IQ levels being genetically determined. You somehow dont find this ignorant. A few questions: why arent africans as proficient at basketball like African Americans generally are as a collective. Conversely, why are Africans much better at soccer than African Americans? Why are sprinters predominately spawned from west african countries and regions, while long distance runners are produced in East African regions?

Ok for one, africans are a pure blood black, where as african americans have a few drops of white blood inside him.

As for genetic variation among africans, I do not deny that. I also don't see how that contradicts anything I have said. Yes, different tribes in africa genetically different, but there are some genes that most of them share in common. Most africans share a collection of genes that makes it very hard for them to be civilized. I wouldn't say its impossible, but its so incredibly hard that as of yet there is not a single civilized and prosperous black city in the entire earth.

Why do south east asians have far more difficulty with crime, academic achievement, and mainstream attainment goals, etc than their western Asian counterparts?

I guess east asians aren't as genetically gifted as west asians.

You raise IQ...Have you been exposed to the research by Washington University, which supported the common sense theory that quality of education and environment are far more influential in matters of cognitive ability than pure genetics?

http://wupa.wustl.edu/record_archive/1997/11-06-97/7682.html

Oh I whole heartedly agree, environment is definitely a bigger factor above all. But genetics is what sets the ceiling. If you have african genes its going to be harder for you to reach the intellectual capacity of a highly intelligent caucasian. Now I know that sounds harsh and dirty and despicable, but it is what it is. Notice that black people very rarely write nonfiction books on anything other than black issues. Blacks just aren't into learning for the sake of learning. They think differently than caucasians and asians.

As I said before, even blacks raised in environments surrounded by white people still score lower on IQ tests. The IQ gap is not as wide among blacks raised in white environments, (evidence that black culture is degnerative), but the gap is still there. This is true EVERYWHERE on planet earth. No study has ever been able to show otherwise. I think the closest study to ever come close to closing the IQ gap was a study among mullatos in europe.

You want to talk about black people this, and black people that? Speak for yourself buddy...that neo-nazi bullsht might go a long way in explaining your lack of abilities, but dont push this on others because of personal self-loathing. Your clown act around here is way tired.

It's not only my lack of abilities, its the abilities of black people everywhere that disappoints me. There comes a point where you have to stop blaming everything on the white man.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Abdoulaye Diongue


I just found his youtube account. Wow! That's a gotdamn shame. bigDeeOT is not the first negro I've seen with that Uncle Ruckus mentality.

I am a revolutionary. If anyone has a chance to bring black people out of the rut we are in today it is people like me and others with like-minded views. Anyone who believes the path for black success is to ask what the white man can do for us rather than what we can do for ourselves is delusional.

 

[Serious]

Unfortunately hes actually black...if you google his screen name you'lll find self made videos of him on youtube, where he expresses like minded views. Not as extreme tho.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

My goal is for people base their views of reality on facts and logic, not emotion. A lot of people base their views of the world and how the world OUGHT to be, rather than how it is. If black people are genetically different than others, we should admit it and accept it. Not try to deny reality.

As for myself, I believe that I share the same genes that make other blacks prone to be violent, uncivilized, and lazy. I am a very lazy person, just as a lot of other black people are. But I try to work as hard as I can like other hard working good blacks.

I try to not be violent and I think a big reason why I'm not a violent person is because of the environment I was raised in. I was raised in a family of black people that only associate with whites. My family does not associate with too many other black people, unless they too have majority white friends. I firmly believe if I was raised in an environment filled with ghetto blacks, my true black side would come out. If I was born in the ghetto, I too would be a thug.

I am ok with this reality because simply, what is the alternative? Deny facts of life?


Ok for one, africans are a pure blood black, where as african americans have a few drops of white blood inside him.

As for genetic variation among africans, I do not deny that. I also don't see how that contradicts anything I have said. Yes, different tribes in africa genetically different, but there are some genes that most of them share in common. Most africans share a collection of genes that makes it very hard for them to be civilized. I wouldn't say its impossible, but its so incredibly hard that as of yet there is not a single civilized and prosperous black city in the entire earth.


I guess east asians aren't as genetically gifted as west asians.


Oh I whole heartedly agree, environment is definitely a bigger factor above all. But genetics is what sets the ceiling. If you have african genes its going to be harder for you to reach the intellectual capacity of a highly intelligent caucasian. Now I know that sounds harsh and dirty and despicable, but it is what it is. Notice that black people very rarely write nonfiction books on anything other than black issues. Blacks just aren't into learning for the sake of learning. They think differently than caucasians and asians.

As I said before, even blacks raised in environments surrounded by white people still score lower on IQ tests. The IQ gap is not as wide among blacks raised in white environments, (evidence that black culture is degnerative), but the gap is still there. This is true EVERYWHERE on planet earth. No study has ever been able to show otherwise. I think the closest study to ever come close to closing the IQ gap was a study among mullatos in europe.


It's not only my lack of abilities, its the abilities of black people everywhere that disappoints me. There comes a point where you have to stop blaming everything on the white man.

Well you're right about one thing, you are a VERY lazy thinker --- you simply orient all of your "thinking" around noxious theories, and EMOTIONAL anti-black appeals to indecency and call it a day. Rambling on with these scientifically illiterate, preposterous, and shallow ideas, while falling back back on "welp its the truth and you cant handle it" in lieu of evidence and support is cognitive bankruptcy. Stop blaming your skin color for your own shortcomings, and overall worthlessness as a human being.

Its hilarious that you raise the idea of civilized behavior, when you support and advocate ideas that enforced the enslavement and terrorism inflicted on black people in America. Is that civilized behavior to you, or as usual you're just going to find away to blame black folks and exalt whites? And who are these whites exactly? Are they Russian, Italian, Scottish, English, Irish, Australian etc...do they all operate with the same behavioral patterns and IQ levels?

You truly are a pathetic person...you're the equivalent of a suicidal and depressed lil white girl who cuts herself, and harbors toxic views about her own person. You are in need of serious psychological counseling. Im not joking. You are in the business of mutilating yourself and its disturbing to watch. I dont need a phd in psychology to observe that you are an unbalanced person, and possess the traits of a borderline schizophrenic. There obviously is zero space to have a rational conversation with someone who is completely fukked in the head.

 

[H.I.M.]

My goal is for people base their views of reality on facts and logic, not emotion. A lot of people base their views of the world and how the world OUGHT to be, rather than how it is. If black people are genetically different than others, we should admit it and accept it. Not try to deny reality.

As for myself, I believe that I share the same genes that make other blacks prone to be violent, uncivilized, and lazy. I am a very lazy person, just as a lot of other black people are. But I try to work as hard as I can like other hard working good blacks.

I try to not be violent and I think a big reason why I'm not a violent person is because of the environment I was raised in. I was raised in a family of black people that only associate with whites. My family does not associate with too many other black people, unless they too have majority white friends. I firmly believe if I was raised in an environment filled with ghetto blacks, my true black side would come out. If I was born in the ghetto, I too would be a thug.

I am ok with this reality because simply, what is the alternative? Deny facts of life?


Ok for one, africans are a pure blood black, where as african americans have a few drops of white blood inside him.

As for genetic variation among africans, I do not deny that. I also don't see how that contradicts anything I have said. Yes, different tribes in africa genetically different, but there are some genes that most of them share in common. Most africans share a collection of genes that makes it very hard for them to be civilized. I wouldn't say its impossible, but its so incredibly hard that as of yet there is not a single civilized and prosperous black city in the entire earth.


I guess east asians aren't as genetically gifted as west asians.


Oh I whole heartedly agree, environment is definitely a bigger factor above all. But genetics is what sets the ceiling. If you have african genes its going to be harder for you to reach the intellectual capacity of a highly intelligent caucasian. Now I know that sounds harsh and dirty and despicable, but it is what it is. Notice that black people very rarely write nonfiction books on anything other than black issues. Blacks just aren't into learning for the sake of learning. They think differently than caucasians and asians.

As I said before, even blacks raised in environments surrounded by white people still score lower on IQ tests. The IQ gap is not as wide among blacks raised in white environments, (evidence that black culture is degnerative), but the gap is still there. This is true EVERYWHERE on planet earth. No study has ever been able to show otherwise. I think the closest study to ever come close to closing the IQ gap was a study among mullatos in europe.


It's not only my lack of abilities, its the abilities of black people everywhere that disappoints me. There comes a point where you have to stop blaming everything on the white man.

 

[H.I.M.]

I am a revolutionary. If anyone has a chance to bring black people out of the rut we are in today it is people like me and others with like-minded views. Anyone who believes the path for black success is to ask what the white man can do for us rather than what we can do for ourselves is delusional.

Wouldn't that just be a useless excercise in futility given your self-professed genetic shortcomings?

You'll never measure up to the white man anyway, correct?

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Wouldn't that just be a useless excercise in futility given your self-professed genetic shortcomings?

You'll never measure up to the white man anyway, correct?

LOL...BigTomDot was genetically predetermined to be a violent psychopath, as all blacks obviously are, had it not been for loving white people who were able to suppress his natural genetic instincts. Fukk who comes up with this brain damaged sht?

 

[Kritic]

i'll rightfully move the goal posts and say this 13 yr old nicca tryina come up with answers. he still need to move out his parents house to speak. probably adopted. i ain' hearing nothin from this nicca. nothin. i just skip his posts.

BET isn't run by black ppl and there's always anyone willing to do ignorant sh1t for money. last time i watched bet was in 2005 or something.