Immigration. Lets talk about it.
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theworldismine13
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Yup, it has been chaos for 200+ years.
Notice how you only care about one border though.
at a certain level it has been chaos for 200 years, american history can be interpreted as a 200 year fight for the rule of law, but that fight for the rule of law is better than people not even believing in the concept of the rule of law in the first place
what makes you think i only care about one border? in fact my point is that black people did not really benefit from an influx of immigrants in the 20th century so why would black people benefit now?
all the borders should be controlled and all immigrants should follow the rule of law, that applies to everybody of all countries
Mind telling me what the UK should do there?
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Of course they have standing.
Case 1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins
Case 2:
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/163/228/case.html
We can go to the Gitmo cases where a non-citizen prisoner successfully challenged US law as unconstitutional and immoral and WON:
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/06/cour-j13.html
What basic set of facts? I already said the US has involvement up and down the Americans. I merely asked which country you referring to and the numbers to back it up. I'm still waiting.
I'm sure that's it.
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Source: http://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42582.pdf
Since 1946 the US has provided Latin America & the Caribbean w/ $148 billion dollars.
Source: http://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42582.pdf
Since 1946 the US has provided Latin America & the Caribbean w/ $148 billion dollars.
He's not white, there's a picture of duke, sucking on a banana, inside of tinychat, circulating all throughout TLR
Of course they have standing.
Case 1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins
Case 2:
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/163/228/case.html
We can go to the Gitmo cases where a non-citizen prisoner successfully challenged US law as unconstitutional and immoral and WON:
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/06/cour-j13.html
Fair enough. Give them their due process. Don't see how or why this would justify illegality.
theworldismine13
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I'm somewhat in the middle on this.
The xenophobia and 'cism on the right is
but at the same time, I think the idea of us having completely open borders is unrealistic (other countries don't do this) and would probably kill the economy. But what I'm saying isn't that I think anybody in US has the moral high ground or that only certain people have the moral "right" to come to the US, moreso that I just don't think it's really sane from an economic standpoint. I can't imagine how completely open borders wouldn't put a huge strain on our social infrastructure. Though if somebody has a good rationale for how this isn't the case, I'm all ears.
Also, sad though it may be, immigration to the US doesn't even put a dent in global poverty rates. 99.9% of desperately poor people around the world will never be in a position to move to a rich country (legally or illegally) and that would still be the case even if we tripled our current immigration rates or had completely open borders.
So I'd support a sane, humane immigration policy with reasonable limits on the number of immigrants per year and measures to make sure that immigrants from some areas aren't given unfair preference.
The xenophobia and 'cism on the right is
but at the same time, I think the idea of us having completely open borders is unrealistic (other countries don't do this) and would probably kill the economy. But what I'm saying isn't that I think anybody in US has the moral high ground or that only certain people have the moral "right" to come to the US, moreso that I just don't think it's really sane from an economic standpoint. I can't imagine how completely open borders wouldn't put a huge strain on our social infrastructure. Though if somebody has a good rationale for how this isn't the case, I'm all ears. Also, sad though it may be, immigration to the US doesn't even put a dent in global poverty rates. 99.9% of desperately poor people around the world will never be in a position to move to a rich country (legally or illegally) and that would still be the case even if we tripled our current immigration rates or had completely open borders.
So I'd support a sane, humane immigration policy with reasonable limits on the number of immigrants per year and measures to make sure that immigrants from some areas aren't given unfair preference.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
I'm somewhat in the middle on this.
The xenophobia and 'cism on the right is
Also, sad though it may be, immigration to the US doesn't even put a dent in global poverty rates. 99.9% of desperately poor people around the world will never be in a position to move to a rich country (legally or illegally) and that would still be the case even if we tripled our current immigration rates or had completely open borders.
So I'd support a sane, humane immigration policy with reasonable limits on the number of immigrants per year and measures to make sure that immigrants from some areas aren't given unfair preference.
bingo
but as can be seen the other side of the cism is nutty also, dudes are literally saying immigration laws are immoral and people dont have to abide by them, according to typeusername immigration laws are akin to slavery
peeped the thread... ive came aross people like him in school or work... gays that try to be white, a mental disorder