GoT has jumped the shark and is on the same level as S2/5 - The Wire & S5-7 Dexter - FlabbY & Sick

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That's the problem. Littlefinger is the most informed character on the show, and Ramsay is known in the North for his brutality. But even ignoring this, Littlefinger has been portrayed as a man of extreme caution and cunning. For him to get into this with the Boltons (known a$$holes),not do his due diligence, and give away his most important chess piece while also revealing his involvement in the downfall at King's Landing?

:francis:

That is bad writing. Sansa has been built up over the second half of S3 to be learning how to play the game, and finally becoming headstrong and cunning only to get wrecked by Ramsay. It's one thing for Ramsay to one up her, it's another to show Sansa having all these potential "saviors" + Littlefinger on her side just to get owned so easily. Especially since the tone of Ep 4 was Roose telling the boy to tread carefully. Sure, Ramsay might get his in the end but the arc for an already weak character that took so long to make watchable is potentially trashed. The raping of Sansa just sticks out in an ugly way (not the act itself, just the idea/plot point) because it's so out of place with what LF/Sansa/Roose were highlighting.

This is what the blind dikk riders get don't get, they talking about lack of action, game of thrones was always slow with very little action, but the character interactions is what made they show you take away the best dynamics, there is no show

littlefinger handing sansa makes zero sense, because it doesn't help him one bit, he already acknowledged that the lannister's are finished, and without tywin's backing roose bolton can't hold the north so what's the point, it's done purely for shock value, but makes zero sense
 

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This is what the blind dikk riders get don't get, they talking about lack of action, game of thrones was always slow with very little action, but the character interactions is what made they show you take away the best dynamics, there is no show

littlefinger handing sansa makes zero sense, because it doesn't help him one bit, he already acknowledged that the lannister's are finished, and without tywin's backing roose bolton can't hold the north so what's the point, it's done purely for shock value, but makes zero sense

Bingo. Also someone mentioned that LF is waiting on the winner of Bolton/Stannis. Problem is from S1 we know Stannis left the small council because he didn't trust any of them. He has no love for LF. They've had 0 interaction since, and Stannis doesn't need anything from LF. That entire idea is dead in the water.

Originally Sansa was supposed to be tied to the Eerie, but now that Roose is "in charge" it all of a sudden makes sense to send her to The North and reveal his hand? Even though LF would know the Bolton's hold on the North is tenuous whereas in the Eerie his motivations are still hidden and his interests are better protected?

4 seasons of careful planning thrown away just so Roose's b*stard can get a little character development :aicmon:

Not even going to get into how terrible the Dorne plot is. This should be the highlight of the season after the momentum of O-block's death. shyt is looking pathetic.
 

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Disrespect to wire s2 is lame. A lot of fake militants hate it but s5 was the worst by far

I digress tho, LF goals ain't really making sense....and the whole jorrah taking tyrion where he already wanted to go is confusing me.
 

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Who knows at this point since the book is pretty different at this point, but imo i felt like he sold sanza out and got under the "queen mothers" skin, for a definite purpose, he may just be trying to get his brothel back and his money right, and go swope up sansa to be a pawn in another scheme. He's a thinker though idk who could compare to him chess storywise besides tyrion. Tyrion is just slightly less evil imo
 

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Also f sansa she sucks, they tried to make her a decent person now, just remember back about her sellin out her family -_-;
 

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Why are you all acting like game of thrones is only about shocking moments? Completely disregarding the character development, excellent writing, cinematography, fight scenes, etc.
Cuz many characters in whom we invested emotionally are dead, and we feel empty inside. :'-( Who wants to do the work of learning/liking new characters this season if they'll just get wacked soon?

Winter aint coming.

Those dragons won't act right.

Ramsey is Joffrey continued.

Arya's wolf clan are not finding Khaleesi and collaborating with her to take the iron throne for the righteous squad.

So fukk GoT. The weather is good. Turn off the tv. Go outside and play!
 

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Disrespect to wire s2 is lame. A lot of fake militants hate it but s5 was the worst by far

I digress tho, LF goals ain't really making sense....and the whole jorrah taking tyrion where he already wanted to go is confusing me.
S5 of the wire wasn't that bad but it was clearly time to end it, but S2 was damn good and people just hate it for no reason.
 

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This season is terrible because they've diverged too much from the books.

There's no choice but to cut story arcs but dont replace them by random uselessn 10 minute sex scenes and shyt.
 

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Wow. I came in here to make the same exact thread.

This was one of the only shows I was really checking for. shyts just uninteresting this season. Same old story since the first season. Tired of seing the same people in the same predicaments. You can tell they're just stretching this shyt to have more episodes.

Think ima just read the books
YES!!! Go do that.

:scust: I wish all the people bytching & whining would go read the books.
 

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That's the problem. Littlefinger is the most informed character on the show, and Ramsay is known in the North for his brutality. But even ignoring this, Littlefinger has been portrayed as a man of extreme caution and cunning. For him to get into this with the Boltons (known a$$holes),not do his due diligence, and give away his most important chess piece while also revealing his involvement in the downfall at King's Landing?

:francis:

That is bad writing. Sansa has been built up over the second half of S3 to be learning how to play the game, and finally becoming headstrong and cunning only to get wrecked by Ramsay. It's one thing for Ramsay to one up her, it's another to show Sansa having all these potential "saviors" + Littlefinger on her side just to get owned so easily. Especially since the tone of Ep 4 was Roose telling the boy to tread carefully. Sure, Ramsay might get his in the end but the arc for an already weak character that took so long to make watchable is potentially trashed. The raping of Sansa just sticks out in an ugly way (not the act itself, just the idea/plot point) because it's so out of place with what LF/Sansa/Roose were highlighting.
she knew she was going to have to have sex against her will it wasn't pleasant but it was understood. You are speaking about the character as if she's been defeated. This whole experience will just harden her or maybe like in the other rape cases the show has had it just gets swept under the rug like it's normal. And since when was sansa a beloved character :why:
 
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Bingo. Also someone mentioned that LF is waiting on the winner of Bolton/Stannis. Problem is from S1 we know Stannis left the small council because he didn't trust any of them. He has no love for LF. They've had 0 interaction since, and Stannis doesn't need anything from LF. That entire idea is dead in the water.

Originally Sansa was supposed to be tied to the Eerie, but now that Roose is "in charge" it all of a sudden makes sense to send her to The North and reveal his hand? Even though LF would know the Bolton's hold on the North is tenuous whereas in the Eerie his motivations are still hidden and his interests are better protected?

4 seasons of careful planning thrown away just so Roose's b*stard can get a little character development :aicmon:

Not even going to get into how terrible the Dorne plot is. This should be the highlight of the season after the momentum of O-block's death. shyt is looking pathetic.

:beli:

Littlefinger explicitly states what he expects if Stannis wins Winterfell, and it's not so Stannis will help him directly. It's so that Stannis names Sansa Wardeness of the north. If Sansa is Wardness of the North, she'll credit LF with making it happen and will be his ally. If the Boltons defeat Stannis, Roose will be thankful for LF having brought Sansa to help convince the Northerners to fall under them as the Warden of the north and will be his ally. It makes plenty of sense.

Littlefinger doesn't want to be warden of the north (as he tells Cersei) he wants the throne and having the Eyrie and the North in the fold help him move towards that end.

How is four seasons of careful planning thrown away because Sansa got raped? Raping Sansa doesn't hurt Littlefinger's position.
 

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Which is unprecedented in the series, and led to Sansa getting raped. shyt is silly man.

The one time Littlefinger is completely clueless it leads to a beloved character catching an L. Massive surprise there. :beli:

Fred.
We all knew sansa was getting dikked down eventually by Ramsay
:beli:

Littlefinger explicitly states what he expects if Stannis wins Winterfell, and it's not so Stannis will help him directly. It's so that Stannis names Sansa Wardeness of the north. If Sansa is Wardness of the North, she'll credit LF with making it happen and will be his ally. If the Boltons defeat Stannis, Roose will be thankful for LF having brought Sansa to help convince the Northerners to fall under them as the Warden of the north and will be his ally. It makes plenty of sense.

Littlefinger doesn't want to be warden of the north (as he tells Cersei) he wants the throne and having the Eyrie and the North in the fold help him move towards that end.

How is four seasons of careful planning thrown away because Sansa got raped? Raping Sansa doesn't hurt Littlefinger's position.
exactly. People keep saying this was an illogical move on Littlefinger's part but we haven't seen how this is going to play out. It may turn out to be a genius decision.
 

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It's so that Stannis names Sansa Wardeness of the north. If Sansa is Wardness of the North, she'll credit LF with making it happen and will be his ally..

Why would she be thankful to Littlefinger when it's going to become increasingly obvious he left her with a lunatic....either intentionally, or even worse, because he didn't know? :what:

Fred.
 
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