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Yo he said if the 360 didn't have a terrible defect rate it would put SONY out of the console game.

My guy the Japanese ain't messing with the 360 like that and to a lesser effect neither are the Europeans, SONY coming from arguably the best console ever made the PS2 are going to vanish because Microsoft had a working console and what Kameo:comeon:



I actually agree with a portion of what you stated, I dont think if the 360 never had the glitches they would've completely annihilated the PS3, but at the same time, I dont think if the PS3 didnt have the blu ray they would've sold as well as they did early on.

People forget back when the PS3 dropped, blu rays were like $1000+, I remember many peeps just copping the PS3 off the strength of getting a cheap blu ray giving no fukks about games. :ld: That's why the system was so high and peeps keeps saying it was a dumb move but remember they really didnt have a choice, $600 for a blu ray was loosing them money when other companies was selling them shyts for double.

Now waiting another year on top of would have crippled them worse than they were
 

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I'm gonna address this 1st.....


Bruh.... lol.... that list is like 50 games.... Ok yes.... MGS4.... Uncharted, GT5.... yes nice... the same games that people brag about like ALL the time.... .. impressive.


But, are actually telling me that games like


1. SOCOM: Confrontation
2. Socom
3. Chunsoft
4. Time Crisis 4
5. The agency
6. MLB08: The Show
7. NBA08
8. FreeRealms MMO
9. My SUmmer Holiday
10. Wagan Midnight
11. Afrika
12. Angel Rings
13. Eight days
14. Eyedentify
15. Eyetoy
16. Fifth Phantom Saga
17. F1: Championship Edition 2006

18. Final Fantasy XIII
19. DC Universe
20. Big Time Revenge
21. Gretzky NHL
22. Wipeout
23. White Knight Story

24. Way of the Samurai 3
25. Warhawk
26. Final Fantasy Versus XIII
27. God Of War III
28. Gran Turismo 5
29. Heavenly Sword
30. Heavy Rain
31. Hot Shots Golf 5
32. Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
33. Killzone 2
34. Lair
35. Metal Gear Solid 4
36. METRO 2033: The Last Refuge
37. Mist of Chaos
38. Monster Hunter 3
39. Folklore
40. Motor Storm 1
41. Motor Storm 2

42. Ninja Gaiden Sigma
43. Ni-Oh
44. Ratchet and Clank 5
45. Redwood falls
46. Resistance Fall Of Man 2
47. Singstar
48. Super Robot Taisen
49. Tekken 6
50. The Eye of Judgment
51. The Getaway


Put up the same numbers?? 4 and 5 million?
Half of those games I never heard of and am sure they didn't sell 4+ million. that's not what I was talking about though. We were talking about "good" games. You're doing exactly what I said you'd do and that is bringing up sales whenever someone says ____ game is pretty nice.

Did ALL these games sell over 4-5 million on 360??
Adrenalin Misfits (Konami)
Akai Katana (Rising Star Games)
Alone In The Dark (Square Enix)
America’s Army: True Soldiers (Ubisoft)
Amped 3 (2K Games)
Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation (Namco Bandai)
Alan Wake (Microsoft)
Arcania: Gothic IV (Dreamcatcher)
Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Burning Earth (THQ)
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts (Microsoft)
Bass Pro Shops: The Strike (Ubisoft)
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat (EA Games)
Battlestations: Midway (Eidos)
Battlestations: Pacific (Eidos Interactive)
Beautiful Katamari (Namco Bandai)
Bee Movie: The Game (Activision)

Big Bumpin’ (King Games)
The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout (THQ)
Bionicle Heroes (Eidos)
BCFX: The Xperience (Aspyr)
The Black Eyed Peas Experience (Ubisoft)
Blitz: The League (Midway Games)
Blood Bowl (Focus Home Interactive)
Blue Dragon (Microsoft)
Body and Brain Connection (Namco Bandai)
Bomberman: Act Zero (Konami)
Brave: A Warrior’s Tale (SouthPeak Interactive)
Bullet Witch (Atari)
Bully: Scholarship Edition (Rockstar Games)
Burnout Revenge (EA Games)
Cabela’s African Safari (Activision)
Cabela’s Alaskan Adventure (Activision)
Cabela’s Big Game Hunter (Activision)
Cabela’s Trophy Bucks (Activision)
Call of Duty 2 (Activision)
Call of Juarez (Ubisoft)
Carnival Games: Monkey See Monkey Do (2K Play)
Carrier Command: Gaea Mission (Rising Star Games)
Chromehounds (Sega)
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars (EA Games)
Command & Conquer 3: Kane’s Wrath (EA Games)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 (EA Games)
Condemned: Criminal Origins (Sega)
Country Dance Kinect (Game Mill)
Crackdown (Microsoft)
Crackdown 2 (Microsoft)
Crash Bandicoot: Mind over Mutant (Vivendi)
Crash of the Titans (Sierra)
Crash Time: Autobahn Pursuit (Crave Entertainment)
Culdcept Saga (Namco Bandai)
Dance Central (MTV Games)
Dance Central 2 (Microsoft)
Dance Masters (Konami)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe (Konami)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2 (Konami)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 3 (Konami)
Darkest of Days (PhantomFFX)
Dark Messiah Might & Magic: Elements (Ubisoft)
Deadliest Catch: Alaskan Storm (Greenwave)
Dead or Alive 4 (Tecmo)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 (Tecmo)
Deadly Premonition (Ignition Entertainment)
Dead Rising (Capcom)
Deathsmiles (Aksys Games)
Deca Sports Freedom (Konami)
Destroy All Humans: Path of the Furon (THQ)
Divinity 2: Ego Draconis (Larian Studios)
Don King: Prizefighter (2K Games)
Dragon Ball Z for Kinect (Namco Bandai)
Dynasty Warriors 5: Empires (KOEI)
Earth Defense Force 2017 (D3 Publisher)
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Bethesda Softworks)
Enchanted Arms (Ubisoft)
Eragon (Vivendi Games)
Fantastic Pets (THQ)
Far Cry Instincts (Ubisoft)
F.E.A.R. Files (Sierra Entertainment)
Fighters Uncaged (Ubisoft)
Final Fantasy XI (Square Enix)
The First Templar (Kalypso Media)
FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage (Empire Interactive)
Frontlines: Fuel of War (THQ)
Full Auto (Sega)
Fusion Frenzy 2 (Microsoft)
Game Party: In Motion (Warner Bros.)
Guilty Gear 2: Overture (ARC System Works)
Guitar Hero II (Activision)
GUN (Activision)
The Gunstringer (Microsoft)
Harry Potter for Kinect (Warner Bros.)
The History Channel: Civil War: A Nation Divided (Activision)
Hitman: Blood Money (Eidos)
Hot Wheels: Beat That! (Activision)
Hour of Victory (Midway Games)
ImportTuner Challenge (Ubisoft)
Infinite Undiscovery (Square Enix)
Jumper: Griffin’s Story (Warner Bros.)
Just Cause (Eidos)
Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft)
Kengo: Legend of the 9 (Majesco)
Kinect Adventures (Microsoft)
Kinect Disneyland Adventures (Microsoft)
Kinectimals (Microsoft)
Kinect Joyride (Microsoft)
Kinect Rush: A Disney Pixar Adventure (Microsoft)
Kinect Sesame Street TV (Microsoft)
Kinect Sports (Microsoft)
Kinect Sports: Season Two (Microsoft)
Kinect Star Wars (Microsoft)
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom (Microsoft)
King Kong (Ubisoft)
Kung Fu High Impact (Ignition Entertainment)
The Last Remnant (Square Enix)
Leisure Suit Larry: Box Office Bust (Codemasters)
Left 4 Dead (Valve)
Left 4 Dead 2 (Valve)
Lips (Microsoft)
Looney Toons: Acme Arsenal (Warner Bros. Interactive)
The Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth II (EA Games)
Lost Odyssey (Square Enix)
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Colonies Edition (Capcom)
Magna Carta II (Namco Bnadai)
Meet the Robinsons (Disney)
Metro 2033 (4A-Games)
Michael Phelps: Push The Limit (505 Games)
Minute to Win It (South Peak Interactive)
Motion Sports (Ubisoft)
MotoGP ’06 (THQ)
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja (Ubisoft)
Naruto: The Broken Bond (Ubisoft)
NBA Baller Beats (Majesco)
Need for Speed: Most Wanted (EA Games)
Nickelodeon Dance (2K Play)
Nickelodeon Dance 2 (2K Play)
Ninja Blade (FromSoftware)
Ninja Gaiden II (Microsoft)
Ninety-Nine Nights (Microsoft)
Ninety-Nine Nights II (Konami)
Omerta: City of Gangsters (Kalypso Media)
Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad (D3Publisher)
Open Season (Ubisoft)
Operation Darkness (Atlus)
Otomedius Excellent (Konami)
The Outfit (THQ)
Overlord: Raising Hell (Codemasters)
Perfect Dark Zero (Microsoft)
Phantasy Star Universe (Sega)
Pimp My Ride (Activision)
Pocketbike Racer (King Games)
Power Rangers: Super Samurai (Namco Bandai)
PowerUp Heroes (Ubisoft)
Prey (2K Games)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft)
Project Gotham Racing 4 (Microsoft)
Project Sylpheed (Square Enix)
Quake 4 (Activision)
Rabbids: Alive & Kicking (Ubisoft)
Rapala Tournament Fishing (Activision)
Raven Squad: Operation Hidden Dagger (SouthPeak Interactive)
Rayman: Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
Ridge Racer 6 (Namco Bandai)
Rise of Nightmares (Sega)
Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis (Rockstar Games)
Rumble Roses XX (Konami)
Saints Row (THQ)
Sammurai Warriors 2 (KOEI)
Scene It! Lights, Camera, Action (Microsoft)
Secret Service: Ultimate Sacrifice (Activision)
Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster (Warner Bros.)
Shadowrun (Microsoft)
Shrek The Third (Activision)
Sneak King (King Games)
Sledge Hammer (Maximum Family Games)
Sonic Free Riders (Sega)
Space Chimps (Brash Entertainment)
Spectral Force 3 (Atlus)
Spider-Man: Friend or Foe (Activision)
The Spider-Wick Chronicles (Sierra)
Spongebob Surf & Skate Roadtrip (THQ)
Star Ocean: The Last Hope (Square Enix)
Star Trek: Legacy (Bethesda Softworks)
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor (Capcom)
Stoked (Destineer Studios)
Stoked: Big Air Edition (Destineer Studios)
Summer Athletics (DTP)
Superman Returns (EA Games)
Supreme Commander (Aspyr)
Supreme Commander 2 (Square Enix)
The Tale of Despereaux (Brash Entertainment)
Tales of Vesperia (Namco Bandai)
Tenchu Z (Microsoft)
Test Drive Unlimited (Atari)
Thrillville: Off the Rails (LucasArts)
TMNT (Ubisoft)
Tomb Raider: Anniversary (Eidos)
Tomb Raider: Legend (Eidos)
Tom Clancy’s GRAW (Ubisoft)
Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Conviction (Ubisoft)
Too Human (Microsoft)
Top Spin 2 (2K Games)
Tony Hawk’s American Wasteland (Activision)
Tropico 3 (Kalypso Media)
Tropico 4 (Kalypso Media)
Universe at War: Earth Assault (Sega)
Vampire Rain (Ignition Entertainment)
Velvet Assassin (Gamecock)
Virtua Fighter 5 (Sega)
Viva Pinata (Microsoft)
Viva Pinata: Party Animals (Microsoft)
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise (Microsoft)
Warhammer: Battle March (Namco Bandai)
Warriors Orochi (KOEI)
Warriors Orochi 2 (KOEI)
Winter Sports 2: The Next Challenge (RTL Ent.)
Wipeout: In the Zone (Activision)
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings (Warner Bros.)
X-Men: The Official Game (Activision)
You’re In The Movies (Codemasters)
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved (Ubisoft)
Zoids Assault (Atlus)
Zumba Fitness Rush (Majesco)
You mean to tell me ALL those 360 exclusives are AAA games and sold over 5 million??


And no one ever said that 360 dont put out bad exclusives, like you said, all systems do, but the PS3 seem to pump out some just for the sake of pumping them out to be like "hey we got exclusives" and a lot of them shyts are garbage.
Not true at all. Lots of exclusives come out on 360 that just go under the radar since you guys are obsessed with Halo, Gears and sometimes Forza.


Quality over quantity, its just not impressive dropping (exaggerating but still) 10 exclusives a month if only one or 2 are gonna be great every other month. Thats like a nicca in bball putting up 60 shots a game to score 25 pts
Going by the analogy, roughly 6 great ps3 exclusives come out yearly compared to 1 or two great xbox 360 exclusives. Am I saying every single PS3 exclusive should come out with sequels?? No but I'll say that for 360 too. 360 could use something other than Halo and Gears.(Gears Judgment coming out less than 2 years after Gears 3 dropped)

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Bruh, the Halo series has done like 50 million in sales.... Them other games combined aint did that :childplease:
:whoa: We weren't talking about SERIES now, why change it up?
But since you brought that up, Gran Turismo series has sold 68 million copies worldwide compared to Halo's 50 million.

Hell to add more salt to the wound, Sony has more series that sold more worldwide than Microsoft has. The God of War series(21 Million), Ratchet and Clank series(25 million) sold more than 20 million copies total compared to Gear's of War 19 million. We could even put Tekken series in here since Tekken 1-5 were PS exclusive also selling 41 million worldwide just take off like 5 million since Tekken 6, tag tournament 2 were released on 360 too.

Every other best selling series of all time is Mario, Pokemon, COD and other third party games that's on all consoles(Fifa, Street Fighter etc.)
 

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Great system but mine have just broke down too many times for my liking. I've had 2 360's and have had to get them both repaired like a combined 5 or 6 times:flabbynsick:

Thats crazy.... Cuz though I've had 2, I only replaced the 1st just to get one with a bigger HD and Kinect. I had a launch one and that shyt NEVER gave me issues.

Same with some peeps I know, yes I know a lot of peeps got the RROD, but I know a few cats that got launch or early ones and to this day never had and issue.:yeshrug:
 

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It's actually a common occurrence for people to be on their 6 or 7 replacement, ain't nothing crazy about it.
Wrapping it in towels, placing it under fans oh the fukkery that proceeded years after the launch and it was still a problem.
 

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I know one thing...the success of Call Of Duty 4 ruined gaming this gen....I wholeheartedly believe this shyt...

Call of Duty made first person shooters the standard of gaming this gen. Now Sony has to focus and development of online gaming as their priority, which forced their hand into something else than their initial plan
 

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Half of those games I never heard of and am sure they didn't sell 4+ million. that's not what I was talking about though. We were talking about "good" games. You're doing exactly what I said you'd do and that is bringing up sales whenever someone says ____ game is pretty nice.

Did ALL these games sell over 4-5 million on 360??

You mean to tell me ALL those 360 exclusives are AAA games and sold over 5 million??


Not true at all. Lots of exclusives come out on 360 that just go under the radar since you guys are obsessed with Halo, Gears and sometimes Forza.


Going by the analogy, roughly 6 great ps3 exclusives come out yearly compared to 1 or two great xbox 360 exclusives. Am I saying every single PS3 exclusive should come out with sequels?? No but I'll say that for 360 too. 360 could use something other than Halo and Gears.(Gears Judgment coming out less than 2 years after Gears 3 dropped)

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:whoa: We weren't talking about SERIES now, why change it up?
But since you brought that up, Gran Turismo series has sold 68 million copies worldwide compared to Halo's 50 million.

Hell to add more salt to the wound, Sony has more series that sold more worldwide than Microsoft has. The God of War series(21 Million), Ratchet and Clank series(25 million) sold more than 20 million copies total compared to Gear's of War 19 million. We could even put Tekken series in here since Tekken 1-5 were PS exclusive also selling 41 million worldwide just take off like 5 million since Tekken 6, tag tournament 2 were released on 360 too.

Every other best selling series of all time is Mario, Pokemon, COD and other third party games that's on all consoles(Fifa, Street Fighter etc.)

Na nicca, I was always talking about the PS3 exclusives period good and bad. I been gave props to the great PS3 games, but my point is PS3 stans always sing "so many great exclusives so many great exclusives" but then repeat the same 5 or 6 games.

Half of those games you never heard of eh?? That's kinda the point.... not you cuz I dont wanna call you a stan unless you yourself wanna self proclaim it, but all of these PS3 stans always wanna brag about all the numerous great exclusives when in reality most never ever played yet alone heard of the majority of them. It's just always "PS3 got so many exclusives........ and Uncharted 2 and MSG4 and and and and and Uncharted 3 :blessed: and Infamous :aicmon: "

My thing is, thats a PS3 bragging point, not XBOX, so if you (not you but in general) wanna always throw that fact up there, then it becomes fair game to take a deeper look at it.

Roughly 6 great games a year?:why: :duck: LMAO come on bruh.... thats crazy... my whole thing is in that argument, I dont think its fair to go far right or far left, I believe the truth is closer in the middle. Over the past few years they been dropping roughly about the same number of quality exclusives, but both sides will come out and knock the others just for agenda driven purposes.

I see nothing wrong with sequels if the 1st games is bananas and the following is crazy, I see more wrong if heavily hyped games dont get sequels ala Heavenly Sword.

And let me clear up the context of that Chart I brought up, I wasnt really talking about the series initially and I didnt bring it up cuz you said ___ game is nice (dont even see where that was even stated :wtf: ).

Lets go back. My OPENING statement was on the issue of bragging about PS3 Exclusives, I stated Halo (and my bad, maybe I should've been more specific regarding if I'm referring to 1,2,3,OSDT,Reach, Wars, 4) sold more than numerous PS3 exclusives. I wasnt talking about the big boys cuz yes that's foolish. But it still doesnt dispute that fact that Halo 3 at 11 million still outsold a large number of combined PS3 exclusives? Can you used the same arguement with maybe an Uncharted? Yes, but has Un2 or any PS3 sold 10 mill+ My point is dont no one really care about as many as them exclusives as some stans love to brag about.

Sidenote rant (cuz you got me distracted bringing up games that SCUST ME)

Yes they may be great games in some peeps eyes, but I fukking hate racing games. Forza GT5 are both garbage to me so its not even relevant to even mention those to me, I know you were just stating your case but I hate racing games :pacspit:

Real talk tho, I appreciate having a real discussion vs some of this crazy war talk some niccas take it too :salute:
 

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Na nicca, I was always talking about the PS3 exclusives period good and bad. I been gave props to the great PS3 games, but my point is PS3 stans always sing "so many great exclusives so many great exclusives" but then repeat the same 5 or 6 games.

Half of those games you never heard of eh?? That's kinda the point.... not you cuz I dont wanna call you a stan
I'm shocked you didn't say that you haven't seen any of my other posts?? Some of them are disgustingly stannish :skip:
 

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Sony loss all their profits from ps1 and 2 and still are in the red with 3 . console sales mean jack shyt ask sony.

if the microsoft didn't have RROD issues sony would be dead right now, that saved them completely.

Not really....you underestimate Sony's presense outside of this country. I've been to many other countries bruh...MS would never outsell Sony in Europe and Asia.

All their advantages of last gen are gone. The only saving grace may be the price of the PS4
 

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You nikkas are dumb as fukk. If you have a job you can afford to buy both systems and play any game you want.

Yes I agree.... if you can afford both systems why not buy both.

The main thing I used to think was crazy was how the PS3 stans would brag about the ballin when they bought a $600 console that came with no headset, extra controller, or HD cord (the OG Xbox atleast had the cord with the switch for Standard and HDTV's) but then cry foul that Xbox charged $50 a year (not hour, not day, not month, but a year) for great online service? And STILL gotta buy that other shyt for peak performance of the PS3 (remember early one when HDMI cords was like $50 and up? :damn: )

I mean damn, anyone that has a car prolly spend more money in a day than what is payed for the XBL for a year (gas, food, tricking on females, cigarettes, etc).
 

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Yes I agree.... if you can afford both systems why not buy both.

The main thing I used to think was crazy was how the PS3 stans would brag about the ballin when they bought a $600 console that came with no headset, extra controller, or HD cord (the OG Xbox atleast had the cord with the switch for Standard and HDTV's) but then cry foul that Xbox charged $50 a year (not hour, not day, not month, but a year) for great online service? And STILL gotta buy that other shyt for peak performance of the PS3 (remember early one when HDMI cords was like $50 and up? :damn: )

I mean damn, anyone that has a car prolly spend more money in a day than what is payed for the XBL for a year (gas, food, tricking on females, cigarettes, etc).

Well I mean you do know the ps3 was bluetooth compatible, hdmi cord could easily be popped in (although it was some fukkery they didn't give you at least component cables). The 360 didn't even come with an extra controller. :stopitslime:
 

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Not really....you underestimate Sony's presense outside of this country. I've been to many other countries bruh...MS would never outsell Sony in Europe and Asia.

All their advantages of last gen are gone. The only saving grace may be the price of the PS4

No disrespect and not referring to you but why do so many AMERICAN cats harp on and worry about what Sony or MS do outside of our country??

Truth be told, when it comes to gaming I only care about us and I'm grateful for what MS has done. Before the Xbox I NEVER used to play shooters like Doom or that Wolfinstein shyt or RPG's cuz I thought they were boring and corning. Final Fantasy7 was the 1st ever RPG I played, and tho I hated that turn based style (that japanese shyt .... no cism) the story was compelling enough to keep me, but Fantasy Star and other shyt was garbage to me.

I like how MS has been and is making games that cater more to what I like and what my friends play (Americans) vs me having to conform to some shyt that may be the latest craze thousands of miles away but isnt exactly for me.



Not knocking all the Eastern influenced games that came from past gens, yes some where great, but I EASILY prefer the current era of Western influenced games (the non turn based RPG games ala Mass Effect)


I'm not like a diehard COD fan (truth be told, I havent even copped the last 2 or 3 that dropped) but I'd play that game that waayyyyy before I play some shyt like that game Catherine or some of the other wild shyt I seen.
 

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Well I mean you do know the ps3 was bluetooth compatible, hdmi cord could easily be popped in (although it was some fukkery they didn't give you at least component cables). The 360 didn't even come with an extra controller. :stopitslime:

Yes I know about the blue tooth, but truth be told per the order, I bought my 360 at launch and my PS3 when MGS4 dropped (a true console mover).

I knew about the blue tooth but funny thing is, maybe a lot of other people didnt per that flopped Second Life clone HOME shyt or even as recently as with the DC Universe shyt (mad motherfukkers dont have headsets :wtf: ) Hell I still dont have one... well actually I do, but I lost the cord and was like fukk it.... I never used that shyt with my old cell anyway. But back then, they kinda were pricey too, who really wanted to go out and spend $50-$100+ for an item that shouldve already been included? :wtf: NICCA I JUST DROPPED $700+ A CONSOLE THAT DIDNT EVEN INCLUDE A GAME JUST WACK ASS SPIDERMAN 3 SO I WAS FORCED TO BUY ONE!!! :sadcam:

:heh::heh::heh:

Also back then, HDMI were still mad high, this was kinda before it caught on that you could go to amazon and cop one for like 3 cents :whoo:

My bad, you're right about the extra controller with the Xbox however I guess I got that BB special when I copped my cuz I had an extra one from day one.... and hell they ran it like that for a loooooonnnnnnggggg ass time in my city.:heh:
 
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