Young Gurus shared thoughts on AI used to mimic Kendrick Lamar voice

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AI was supposed to make life easier, not takeover art and be another tool that's exploited by capitalism.

AI sucks.

2001: A Space Odyssey came out in 1968; the short story it's based on came out in 1951. Science fiction novels and films have discussed the inevitable danger of AI for a very long time. And we walked right into the trap nonetheless with zero regulation or moral reserve.

Artists will probably be fine. You can replicate the voice but you can't release an AI "Kendrick Lamar" album without being sued; the voice can't be copywrited but the NAME can. But imagine the implication of Youtube having multiple AI generated Kendrick albums, which are not monetized but become popular. Imagine a scenario where Kendrick releases a real album in a couple years, and multiple fans prefer the AI album which they stream instead of the real one.

I'm glad Guru brought up jazz btw. Spotify was caught awhile ago when they began monetizing fake jazz artists. This allows them to receive a larger portion of streaming sales, vs paying a record label a percentage for Miles Davis streams.


Now imagine an AI generated fake rap artist who starts getting a lot of streams/support. Spotify would own the "artist" and have an incentive to boost its music. What if labels create their own fake artists. Lots of ugly implications.
 

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2001: A Space Odyssey came out in 1968; the short story it's based on came out in 1951. Science fiction novels and films have discussed the inevitable danger of AI for a very long time. And we walked right into the trap nonetheless with zero regulation or moral reserve.

Artists will probably be fine. You can replicate the voice but you can't release an AI "Kendrick Lamar" album without being sued; the voice can't be copywrited but the NAME can. But imagine the implication of Youtube having multiple AI generated Kendrick albums, which are not monetized but become popular. Imagine a scenario where Kendrick releases a real album in a couple years, and multiple fans prefer the AI album which they stream instead of the real one.

I'm glad Guru brought up jazz btw. Spotify was caught awhile ago when they began monetizing fake jazz artists. This allows them to receive a larger portion of streaming sales, vs paying a record label a percentage for Miles Davis streams.


Now imagine an AI generated fake rap artist who starts getting a lot of streams/support. Spotify would own the "artist" and have an incentive to boost its music. What if labels create their own fake artists. Lots of ugly implications.

I theorize that’s why these companies are buying up peoples catalogs. Yeah they can’t drop a kendrick album but they can suggest an artist like Kendrick that happens to sound the exact same and if they got their whole catalog they can train the AI to be pretty damn close. Obviously kendrick didn’t sell his catalogue but the concept is there
 

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2001: A Space Odyssey came out in 1968; the short story it's based on came out in 1951. Science fiction novels and films have discussed the inevitable danger of AI for a very long time. And we walked right into the trap nonetheless with zero regulation or moral reserve.

Artists will probably be fine. You can replicate the voice but you can't release an AI "Kendrick Lamar" album without being sued; the voice can't be copywrited but the NAME can. But imagine the implication of Youtube having multiple AI generated Kendrick albums, which are not monetized but become popular. Imagine a scenario where Kendrick releases a real album in a couple years, and multiple fans prefer the AI album which they stream instead of the real one.

I'm glad Guru brought up jazz btw. Spotify was caught awhile ago when they began monetizing fake jazz artists. This allows them to receive a larger portion of streaming sales, vs paying a record label a percentage for Miles Davis streams.


Now imagine an AI generated fake rap artist who starts getting a lot of streams/support. Spotify would own the "artist" and have an incentive to boost its music. What if labels create their own fake artists. Lots of ugly implications.

Interesting. But are these artists actually fake as in it's AI generated music or is it real session musicians who are paid by Spotify to make music and bounce?
 

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I theorize that’s why these companies are buying up peoples catalogs. Yeah they can’t drop a kendrick album but they can suggest an artist like Kendrick that happens to sound the exact same and if they got their whole catalog they can train the AI to be pretty damn close. Obviously kendrick didn’t sell his catalogue but the concept is there
Never thought of this...this is a fascinating theory, and pretty troubling.
 

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That was an amazing post

Unfortunately i feel its too late, we are already doomed, like seriously.

We cant even handle Covid misinformation or voting misinformation from russia via facebook

Tech is gonna REALLY fukk society soon

We still in the foreplay stages... But the lube is coming out soon :yeshrug:
 

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This will be interesting, it’s the perfect time for something like this after a good 15 years of seeing the value of music drop. People made it clear they don’t care to pay for music during the rousting era, and people move on and off of music faster than ever with streaming and social media making songs hot, no one cares about albums anymore, so AI generated tracks peppered into the hot playlists - listeners wont bat an eye.

Only thing that might stop this from blowing up is AI generated artists clearly won’t be real people and younger consumers are all about what artists are doing IRL - streams, social media, festivals…
 
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