You ever get mad at how underappreciated producers are?

[Drip Bayless]

The gates of access are a lot wider today (any kid with a laptop can get on piratebay and become a producer). But for the same reason oversaturation is fukking up the game. A lotta talented mfs get overlooked cause they just make nice beats and don't have standout traits (social media presence, memorable tags, big league cosigns). And on top of that the beats gotta be fire.
If you a rapper and you market yourself well your music doesn't even have to be that good
I see all these nikkas on the internet stealing beats and it just get me tight that neither the rappers or the fans really respect the craft. And I haven't been making beats that long so I'm not speaking as a vet or anything, but damn! When did it come to the point where making good music isn't good enough?

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Producers are the new rockstars. This is why artists go above and beyond to get credited as writers/producers/arrangers even if they didn't actually do any of that.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

shyt been messed up since the dawn of MySpace. This is a genre of vultures that prey on the weak and have no remorse over feelings. Its sad when waves have to dictate a beat maker/producer's sound because folks are too fickle to enjoy their previous style. For instance, Brandun Deshay used to put out some of the most mind boggling beats that I have ever heard around the time of the whole Odd Future wave. Next thing you know, dude is trying to do trap beats . Not that I have no problem with him doing such things, but dude is better than that shyt.

All I know is if I had the money I would make a documentary about Lo_Fi beat makers. Those dudes are the real mvps since they just grind and work with what they know. It's boy scout music.

 

[Drip Bayless]

shyt been messed up since the dawn of MySpace. This is a genre of vultures that prey on the weak and have no remorse over feelings. Its sad when waves have to dictate a beat maker/producer's sound because folks are too fickle to enjoy their previous style. For instance, Brandun Deshay used to put out some of the most mind boggling beats that I have ever heard around the time of the whole Odd Future wave. Next thing you know, dude is trying to do trap beats . Not that I have no problem with him doing such things, but dude is better than that shyt.

All I know is if I had the money I would make a documentary about Lo_Fi beat makers. Those dudes are the real mvps since they just grind and work with what they know. It's boy scout music.

Yea knwxledge one of my favorite producers. Seems like everybody on that trap shyt now partially because of sample clearances

 

[King Musa]

Rappers have to understand that there should always be mutual respect from rapper to producer and vice versa. Too many up and coming rappers and even established rappers have very little respect for the producer and their craft....That causes producers to resent rappers.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Rappers have to understand that there should always be mutual respect from rapper to producer and vice versa. Too many up and coming rappers and even established rappers have very little respect for the producer and their craft....That causes producers to resent rappers.

No doubt. This is why producers need to go a performance/solo route than to keep giving rappers beats and have nothing to show for it. A good example of rappers taking producers for granted was Fly-Lo getting low balled by Kendrick during the TPAB sessions. Dude gave Kenny probably a buffet table of beats and Kendrick just used one and palm the rest.

This is why dudes need to start going for self since the beat tape movement is slowly rising due to nostalgia and Bandcamp/Soundcloud waves. Damn getting played by most of these rappers out here.

 

[Dawunonli]

I think producers gradually getting more credit these days but still undervalued cuz of over saturation, copy cats + etc