WWE still doesn't trust Cena/Punk...wants Rock/Brock at Summerslam in Hollywood

[InstantKlassik]

These part-time stars(Brock, Rock, HHH, Taker) should be used to build future stars like Bryan, Ziggler, and Barrett. Instead, WWE keeps booking these part-time stars to go against other established stars. It's great for the short term, but it's hurting their future. They can't rely on Cena and part-time attitude era guys forever.

In that case, Cena should've been putting over nikkas 5+ years ago

Whatever happened to stars making themselves?? nikkas this era are just lazy as fukk. I don't remember anyone having to put over Austin,Rock and others, dudes just wanted it more. If Mick Foley managed to become a 3x WWF champion in the same era as Rock/Austin/Undertaker/Triple H, what's stopping the current era? Sure booking and Cena play a part in it too these days, but i always believed in true talent/skill /crowd support conquering all that in the end regardless of the politics, too many wrestlers these days are looking for someone to hold their hand and show them the way instead of going out there themselves and proving they belong at the top of the card.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

In that case, Cena should've been putting over nikkas 5+ years ago

Whatever happened to stars making themselves?? nikkas this era are just lazy as fukk. I don't remember anyone having to put over Austin,Rock and others, dudes just wanted it more. If Mick Foley managed to become a 3x WWF champion in the same era as Rock/Austin/Undertaker/Triple H, what's stopping the current era? Sure booking and Cena play a part in it too these days, but i always believed in true talent/skill /crowd support conquering all that in the end regardless of the politics, too many wrestlers these days are looking for someone to hold their hand and show them the way instead of going out there themselves and proving they belong at the top of the card.

Bret letting austin not tap to the sharpshooter was essentially putting over how tough he was and help legitimize him as a face

Triple h needed Cactus Jack to make him look like a main eventer


everybody gets put over somebody in order to grow but with vets coming and going as they please [not just rock, but batista/jericho/taker/hhh/etc.] you dont have anybody with momentum to make other guys look great. Young guys facing young guys only buries more young guys in the long run and terrible/boring angles and bland charatcers aren't helping even when you have a roster with this much in ring talent/athletic ability

besides jericho and maybe cena, how many vets were really putting over young talent in a major way?

Maybe orton but he's been put over more talent then he's needed too
maybe kane? Show? Henry? but how many new legit stars have been made in like the past three years?

DBry, CM Punk, ryback, and...thats really it

 

[InstantKlassik]

Bret letting austin not tap to the sharpshooter was essentially putting over how tough he was and help legitimize him as a face

Triple h needed Cactus Jack to make him look like a main eventer


everybody gets put over somebody in order to grow but with vets coming and going as they please [not just rock, but batista/jericho/taker/hhh/etc.] you dont have anybody with momentum to make other guys look great. Young guys facing young guys only buries more young guys in the long run and terrible/boring angles and bland charatcers aren't helping even when you have a roster with this much in ring talent/athletic ability

besides jericho and maybe cena, how many vets were really putting over young talent in a major way?

Maybe orton but he's been put over more talent then he's needed too
maybe kane? Show? Henry? but how many new legit stars have been made in like the past three years?

DBry, CM Punk, ryback, and...thats really it

Austin was already over huge BEFORE the match with Bret, he was gonna get to the top sooner or later regardless because the fans already made their minds up, but the match with Bret did help and was a huge moment, so i see your point.

The problem today, is that Cena is the only "vet" who's not a part-timer, who him putting over someone on the rise would actually mean something IF done PROPERLY, not Cena putting him over, then Cena going over the next 3 times they matchup

Cena's reign as the top guy has paralyzed the rest of the roster detrimentally, and people get mad and expect part-timers to come in and clean up the mess and do the jobs that Cena should've been doing YEARS ago...It's comical

Part-timers like Rock/Brock/Taker/Austin are only going to comeback and face opposition that makes for a big match and provide great business. and it's the wrestlers and WWE's job to put them in the proper position within the company for it to make sense for them to even fight the part-timers to begin with. the issue is that WWE hasn't built up enough stars in the months/years PRIOR to the part-timers coming in for it to even make sense, and that all falls back on Cena because he's in the best position in the company from a roster standpoint and he's their biggest star who is still a full-time wrestler.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Austin was already over huge BEFORE the match with Bret, he was gonna get to the top sooner or later regardless because the fans already made their minds up, but the match with Bret did help and was a huge moment, so i see your point.

The problem today, is that Cena is the only "vet" who's not a part-timer, who him putting over someone on the rise would actually mean something IF done PROPERLY, not Cena putting him over, then Cena going over the next 3 times they matchup

Cena's reign as the top guy has paralyzed the rest of the roster detrimentally, and people get mad and expect part-timers to come in and clean up the mess and do the jobs that Cena should've been doing YEARS ago...It's comical

Part-timers like Rock/Brock/Taker/Austin are only going to comeback and face opposition that makes for a big match and provide great business. and it's the wrestlers and WWE's job to put them in the proper position within the company for it to make sense for them to even fight the part-timers to begin with. the issue is that WWE hasn't built up enough stars in the months/years PRIOR to the part-timers coming in for it to even make sense, and that all falls back on Cena because he's in the best position in the company from a roster standpoint and he's their biggest star who is still a full-time wrestler.

i put sole responsibility on to the writers and Vince himself for letting it get htis way. One light, Cena has been the most consistent "face" of the company for 10 years. Other then injuries and shooting movies he is the WWE no matter what, he's exactly who you want as your company man. Problem is you dont have anybody outside of punk to even put on his level and seem respectable standing next to him from a character stand point. I'm hoping with heyman involved again and his history of actually developing characters/angles and him plucking roman/dean/seth from nxt and brad maddox alongside rybackberg that this means we'll see newer faces getting chances in the main event and guys with actual memory gimmicks emerge

 

[R=G]

Cena being protected at 35 is ridiculous...if he needs to be protected @35, he's not a real star....not at all.

 

[True Blue Moon]

In that case, Cena should've been putting over nikkas 5+ years ago

Whatever happened to stars making themselves?? nikkas this era are just lazy as fukk. I don't remember anyone having to put over Austin,Rock and others, dudes just wanted it more. If Mick Foley managed to become a 3x WWF champion in the same era as Rock/Austin/Undertaker/Triple H, what's stopping the current era? Sure booking and Cena play a part in it too these days, but i always believed in true talent/skill /crowd support conquering all that in the end regardless of the politics, too many wrestlers these days are looking for someone to hold their hand and show them the way instead of going out there themselves and proving they belong at the top of the card.

This is very true. Some of the biggest Attitude era stars were guys who weren't supposed to be stars. They made their own lane and had crazy competitive spirit.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

lol what's a real poster to a Stan

 

[puppetmaster]

These part-time stars(Brock, Rock, HHH, Taker) should be used to build future stars like Bryan, Ziggler, and Barrett. Instead, WWE keeps booking these part-time stars to go against other established stars. It's great for the short term, but it's hurting their future. They can't rely on Cena and part-time attitude era guys forever.

True.

They're making money so there's that "if it aint broke" complacency. There's no reason you can't have a Brock wrestle a DBryan in a company catered to kids centering around a bully picking on someone who might be small but can actually defend themselves etc.


They have the star power/name recognition to make other stars IF they wanted to.

With a few exceptions of cats catching lightning That's the way it generally works, shyt I remember being a lil dude rooting for a spiky haired blonde dude with the face paint because well I was a kid and he looked cool like a friendly roadwarrior, was energetic etc. when he wrestled Flair and took him to the limit tho, Sting was a made man in my eyes, Flair didnt even "lose" but his presence made Sting a player.


Like @InstantKlassik stated. Mick became WWF champ during Stone Cold v Rock fever because he stood out. Regardless of how short his run was. That's insane when you think about it.






-P-

 

[Reality Check]

I've given him all the ammo he needs still no expolsions, or bombs. Eric is a walking L.

I'd go wit running L. Usain Bolt would be jealous at how fast he runs from threads where he's been called out.

 

[The Great One]

I'd go wit running L. Usain Bolt would be jealous at how fast he runs from threads where he's been called out.

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

In that case, Cena should've been putting over nikkas 5+ years ago

Whatever happened to stars making themselves?? nikkas this era are just lazy as fukk. I don't remember anyone having to put over Austin,Rock and others, dudes just wanted it more. If Mick Foley managed to become a 3x WWF champion in the same era as Rock/Austin/Undertaker/Triple H, what's stopping the current era? Sure booking and Cena play a part in it too these days, but i always believed in true talent/skill /crowd support conquering all that in the end regardless of the politics, too many wrestlers these days are looking for someone to hold their hand and show them the way instead of going out there themselves and proving they belong at the top of the card.

People tried. Then they saw Zack Ryder take that long ride off a short stage and fell back. It made Tyler Reks quit the biz