WTF is Kathleen Kennedy smoking? (claims no source material for good movies)

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Jon Favreau and Lucas right hand dude are running The Mandalorian....
Dave Filoni...

Disney needs to stop fukking around and just give that man the keys...There isn't a single SW project he's executive produced that didn't receive an overwhelmingly positive response from the fanbase...

Kennedy clearly cares more about using the franchise as platform to push her political agenda than producing a good SW film...
 

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stop.

the moral lesson of star wars.
along with the central norms to characterization.
all still existed in content.
with George at the helm of Lucas.
despite critique and also still arriving.
at telling and keeping true to the moral fiber of the entire series. To arrive at a ANH.
of which George is still the AUTHORITY.
of proper blockbuster mass sales of any product ever.
on top of anything futuristic.
or tied into space anything.
I ask,...
that collective,...for all the critique.
Where is their actual grassroots anything.
that stays to the cultural ideals of their franchise at?
let alone where was this space box office to entire economy and world moral direction reference material film license franchise at?

With the rival drawing receipts via grassroots draw to pull up, as well.

of which combined with unnecessary critique.
George is shackled at driving that home in his way.
which despite critique wrongly.
is the top drawing non-rivaled drawing film and anything ever franchise via dialogue by proxy as well.
which others complained about.
yet,...
planning the story and scripting with how much George was shackled.
from mother's groups constant industry shackled critique amidst the communication act post 1996, etc.

that eventually before and after the prequels.
George fell prey to the collective.
that same collective.
that was now all being so commercial, and big budget.
from trying and failing to recreate the boom.
star wars singularly created.
along with it the boom of everything modern.
we see from grassroots and outsider art in critique.
to what we would deem blockbuster.

nuffin is bigger than star wars and we see nuffin will ever be that large again, period.

so that collective was in errror.
plus also poisoned by failure based negative post communication act pr as well.
a collective we see now,...
still is not fully credible..
or was a fake toy playing a role.
till it all was exposed in what should be called forcegate.
after the last star wars movie and the critiques of the film were all paid for.
which created the current backlash that has caught storm from the original very brave few. Who gave an honest critique on the critical franchise undermining failure of the new star wars.
under Kennedy and that hack Johnson and trekkie Abrahams.
which easily if George was not wrongly and negatively critiqued.
via the collective post communications act.
by this wack new based collective.
that actually also are to blame for the Kennedy era as well.
if they had issue with George and neg'd his dialogue or approach after the communications act.
solidified he could no longer widely in a monopoly.
spread a large moral fiber based product in the manner.
in which star wars was originally and globally marketed.
to the point,...
mark would never had to ask George.
about the singular moral direction of luke.
like mark was forced to do with Kennedy, abrahams and Johnson.
plus be undermined by Kennedy and Rian johnson.
on set and pr multiple dire plead based times.
then undermine the entire premise direction content moral fiber etc of the entire series.
in any and every normally relevent pr network neither.
as the head of Lucas either.
George would never have done that.
where he undermined his creations in and of blockbuster film making.
how we really arrived at point a to b.
like Kennedy has allowed star wars to arrive at the definite ending conclusion of a drawing phase.
star wars was not made to be a decline draw phase property at all.
not unless you undermine the moral and norm base of the entire product as Kennedy has.





art barr



aye Joe,...
I never had a problem with the prequels.
outside jar jar and the miscasting of hayden as adult Anakin.
even then,...
I know where it fits in......
given I was an adult.
who grew up and was socialized in a time.
that the boom socially to economically star wars created and exists to this day.
plus, the fact I know.
wtf mother's groups and the communications act.
did to ruin star wars on rotj.
plus all of America negatively.
moving forward to be poisoned.
in combination with the prison industrial complex.

so, I never destroyed Lucas for anything on the prequels.
outside jar jar and Anakin.
which i think is fair critique.
as I have critiqued that the same consistently.
if ever asked globally on the films.
of which i saw the phantom menace and eight times in the theater. If i remember right.
Plus i saw clone wars like four or five times in the theatre as well.
not to mention, I know i am the goat internet review person in film and music easy. Especially film on top of music. From my ratings on movies moonlighting on super frog splash mountain on the old rt alone. During the doenrime of the :hamster: From the evil fources of the channel fo.
So I already don't ever cosign the masses and that collective.
nor, and their take online.
As it could be a pr based agenda.
like we saw from every review person on the last star wars. Which ruined every other internet critics cred globally.
possibly all of internet critique on film moving forward.

so I am not the guy to try to bash Lucas.
nor the prequels.

if anything, I just wish kenner was not so cheap.
let alone, inept to let mother's groups.
force them to change the direction of star wars toys.
Plus never change outside of star wars.
Or let others come and bungle other licenses.
after star wars to stay operating till now over hasbro.
whom took over Kenner.
including toy giant Mattel as well.
I also wish George would have stood pat.
and found another company to take control. yet mother's groups destroyed other companies wrongly.
from being able to produce and market toys as well.
of which i felt George should have went to McFarlane toys.
to produce star wars at the time.
as the natural evolution of indie grassroots outsider art based creator owned products and licenses.
which could have created a higher and more productive rub and creative synergetic boost to both as well. Where at the time. No creative issue probably could have been created. As i feel that union would have lengthened star wars.
plus crowned and funded the indie types.
who were their own booming rock stars.
who were on and ahead of the pulse.
in creating, grassroots outsider indie art from a visual to physical toy aspect for that time as well.




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One reason Lucas sold it was because the fans hated him for ep 1-3. This is as much a result of of rabid fandom as this broads incoherent vision:yeshrug:
True. The old heads fukk it up cause they couldn't stopped whining and now they are really crying because they fukked Star Wars up for everybody. Lucas didn't realize that there would be a whole generation of kids that grew up as the prequels as their first and completely love that trilogy are now adults.
 

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They planned it out in the sense of a plan they were going to make it, but they didn’t plan how they wanted the trilogy to end ahead of time. They let JJ write the first one, and then they let Johnson write the second one, and then now they brought in JJ back to write the third one.

But JJ and Johnson both had full creative control and was allowed to do what they wanted.

What I meant is like...on shows like Breaking Bad and Mr Robot the creators know pretty much how the shows are going to end ahead of time, or at least have a road map.

On the new Star Wars trilogy each director has just winged it based on how they thought the story should go.

There’s a reason they were even still filming for episode 9 here in November and it drops next month. Apparently they have 6 endings filmed and are testing them and no one is really feeling any of them.

My point is that you don’t need to film six endings for your final movie if you have a plan on how it’s going to end to begin with
This was the extent of their planning...

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Lucas wasn't shytted on for 1-3. He was shytted on for specific parts - Jar Jar, and Hayden as Anakin. Most people were indifferent about TPM, except for Jar Jar. ANd most people liked AotC, aside from the chemistry between Padme & Anakin. You can compare the stuff in Clones that was disliked, to the Ewoks. And everyone loved Sith. And more people came around to the entire story once Sith came about. The Clone Wars were loved as well. People also had a problem with the overabundance of CGI and the glossiness of it, but it seems that this one will have just as much.

I think the primary reason he sold was because he really wanted to finish his story. Everyone told him they were on board, and he said that he was getting old, and didn't know if he still had another 9 years to dedicate to it. I think KK's job was to ensure that his story got out. That's why he was so hurt over what happened.

But even so, she can never say that there's no source material. They discarded everything that they could loosely adapt, they tossed out Lucas' outline, and then had no alternative plans
 

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Lucas wasn't shytted on for 1-3. He was shytted on for specific parts - Jar Jar, and Hayden as Anakin. Most people were indifferent about TPM, except for Jar Jar. ANd most people liked AotC, aside from the chemistry between Padme & Anakin. You can compare the stuff in Clones that was disliked, to the Ewoks. And everyone loved Sith. And more people came around to the entire story once Sith came about. The Clone Wars were loved as well. People also had a problem with the overabundance of CGI and the glossiness of it, but it seems that this one will have just as much.

I think the primary reason he sold was because he really wanted to finish his story. Everyone told him they were on board, and he said that he was getting old, and didn't know if he still had another 9 years to dedicate to it. I think KK's job was to ensure that his story got out. That's why he was so hurt over what happened.

But even so, she can never say that there's no source material. They discarded everything that they could loosely adapt, they tossed out Lucas' outline, and then had no alternative plans


Most people did not like Attack of the Clones. They hated Phantom Menace.

Revenge of the Sith was redeemable and respected.

But overall, George was sh*tted on for 1-3.

And not just 1-3, but also some of 4-5-6 era.

Some said Empire Strikes Back was the best because he didn't direct it. And they hate him for the Ewoks in ROTJ because they thought he was chasing the merchandise and money instead of a good story. And that ROTJ was a drop off in quality because he was more involved with ROTJ than he was with Empire.

George was burnt out and bitter. And you can understand why. This was his baby. He damn dear died trying to make the first movie, yet he endured a lot of criticism. Some warranted, but a lot of it was unnecessary nitpicking.


Given the current state of the franchise, maybe now those same fans are starting to appreciate all that George did for the franchise, creatively and financially.
 

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Most people did not like Attack of the Clones. They hated Phantom Menace.

Revenge of the Sith was redeemable and respected.

But overall, George was sh*tted on for 1-3.

And not just 1-3, but also some of 4-5-6 era.

Some said Empire Strikes Back was the best because he didn't direct it. And they hate him for the Ewoks in ROTJ because they thought he was chasing the merchandise and money instead of a good story. And that ROTJ was a drop off in quality because he was more involved with ROTJ than he was with Empire.

George was burnt out and bitter. And you can understand why. This was his baby. He damn dear died trying to make the first movie, yet he endured a lot of criticism. Some warranted, but a lot of it was unnecessary nitpicking.


Given the current state of the franchise, maybe now those same fans are starting to appreciate all that George did for the franchise, creatively and financially.
Most people did not initially hate the phantom menace. Darth Maul was bad ass. In fact most of my friends liked it. Attack of the clones did not age well however because of the whole Jar Jar sequence. Revenge of the Sith was the best one.

As far as the original trilogy. Everyone loved empire strikes back and return of the jedi. In fact, those 2 had the most replay value. We watched it a lot as a kid.

The little things that people complained over are starting to be appreciated in comparison to this new trilogy. They should've revealed that Rey is a Sith by the second film so this new one is gonna be a convoluted train wreck and possibly worse than the last jedi. The thing that made star wars classic is that all the characters had depth from Yoda, to Han, to Leia, to Luke, to Obi, to Vader to Mace. But this new shyt buried all its characters and glorified this stoic bland white chick.
 

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This is why she needs to go. There's a wealth of source material to pick and choose from. Do you know how many books are out there set after Return of the Jedi :gucci:? Didn't Han and Leia pop out kids who turned to the dark side? It sure as fukk sounds like someone found some sort of inspiration. In how many of those books were the remnants of the Empire still an issue in the New Republic? Well gee whiz, it sure looks like someone found some sort of inspiration from somewhere.

shyt they ain't even have to do all that. The Old Republic imo has better lore and characters than the new shyt. Mandalorians were even gullier back in the day, the Sith were DEEP.

Pre mainline story has such a deep history and gaps where you can insert your own history and story its fukking crazy. Hell, just do an adaption of KOTOR and boom.
 

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shyt they ain't even have to do all that. The Old Republic imo has better lore and characters than the new shyt. Mandalorians were even gullier back in the day, the Sith were DEEP.

Pre mainline story has such a deep history and gaps where you can insert your own history and story its fukking crazy. Hell, just do an adaption of KOTOR and boom.

Can't. Remember, there's no source material for movies........
 

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Most people did not like Attack of the Clones. They hated Phantom Menace.

Revenge of the Sith was redeemable and respected.

But overall, George was sh*tted on for 1-3.

And not just 1-3, but also some of 4-5-6 era.

Some said Empire Strikes Back was the best because he didn't direct it. And they hate him for the Ewoks in ROTJ because they thought he was chasing the merchandise and money instead of a good story. And that ROTJ was a drop off in quality because he was more involved with ROTJ than he was with Empire.

George was burnt out and bitter. And you can understand why. This was his baby. He damn dear died trying to make the first movie, yet he endured a lot of criticism. Some warranted, but a lot of it was unnecessary nitpicking.


Given the current state of the franchise, maybe now those same fans are starting to appreciate all that George did for the franchise, creatively and financially.
Another thing during the the ROTJ time era was that his wife/editor cheated on him and left him and the kids
 

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Jon Favreau and Lucas right hand dude are running The Mandalorian....

Dave Filoni...

Disney needs to stop fukking around and just give that man the keys...There isn't a single SW project he's executive produced that didn't receive an overwhelmingly positive response from the fanbase...

Kennedy clearly cares more about using the franchise as platform to push her political agenda than producing a good SW film...

came in to post this very thought. Based on the mandalorian alone, they should fire Kathleen Kennedy and put Jon favreau in charge. Jon favreau at least is a creative in he's an actual actor, writer and movie director and has succeeded in all three facets and he's the one that put the MCU on three map to begin with.
 
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came in to post this very thought. Need on the mandalorian alone, they should fire Kathleen Kennedy and put Jon favreau in charge. Jon favreau at least is a creative in he's an actual actor, writer and movie director and has succeeded in all three facets and he's the one that put the MCU on three map to begin with.

Damn shame that in 3 episodes of The Mando, we've seen more from Favreau and Filoni that the Eps 8 and 9 to show that they get it. Not surprised from Filoni being George's dude, but Favreau def needs his props as well.

I hope Iger does what is needed.
 
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