Would This Match Type Have Potential?

[Knockout_LR_Freshmart]

I posted this on another forum and was met with confusion so I'm gonna lay it out in its entirety here and see what ya think:

The Setup:

1. A WarGames 2000 Triple Cage

2. Swap Out the Top Cage For a Compact Ultimate X Structure

3. Strip the Roof From the Middle Cage and Have the Ultimate X Beams in Each Corner (near the wires on top in this pic)

4. Place 2 Ladders Outside of the Middle Cage/On Top of the Bottom Cell

Match Rules:

First Match: Hell in a Cell win by pin/sub (in bottom cell)
Second Match: Cage Match win by escape (in middle cage)
Third Match: Ultimate X win by grabbing title by either UX wires or ladder
Winner is Best 2 out of 3

How It's Booked:

Match is Booked as a 1 on 1 Championship Blow-off Match Between 2 Wrestlers with Any Combination of the Following Styles:

Hardcore (i.e. Foley, Funk)
Technician (i.e. Angle, HBK)
High Flyer (i.e. AJ Styles, Hardy)

No Big Men (i.e. Khali, Show) Should Ever be Booked in This Match

The Actual Match

Each man wins 1 of the first 2 falls with the Cell Match taking up ~20 min before they climb up and into second tier for the Cage Match taking ~10 min. The UX Match would be another ~15 min and is where guys like Guerrero or HBK would especially shine.


I know I'm playing fantasy booker but lemme know your thoughts...

 

[Novembruh]

If you want everyone in it to die, sure?

There have been documented issues with both structures you're combining together to make this literal death trap, but let's just comment on the fact that you expect exhausted people to use a ladder that is stabilized by nothing but chain link fencing to climb up and grab something with any measure of precision.

It'd be a clusterfukk. A clusterfukk made out of tetanus and damaged ball-and-socket joints

It's the equivalent of trying to climb a ladder on a steel trampoline and change a lightbulb while other people bounce around the ladder. There will be injuries, for no benefit because they couldn't light or film the match for shyt and anyone on the floor of the event wouldn't be able to see a goddamned thing the second they got to the second cage.

You're effectively gimmick-matching a 2-out-of-3 falls match, but oops, all gimmick and that can't work because there's literally no drama in it outside of hoping no one dies because there'd be no way the thing doesn't go to a 1-1 tie when it's being agented. Which... ya know; it absolutely shouldn't. Because by these rules, if you dominate enough in the first 'match' and put your opponent down with your move... you just climb out the cage and win 2-0, whereas at least in a 2-out-of-3 there's a reset between falls.

I don't want to dash your dreams, bruh but... this one's a bad dream. It's dangerous and wouldn't add anything to a feud blowoff that proper booking and a good video package couldn't do better for a regular-ass match. Also, this is 45 minutes, plus either having a whole show in a cage or needing the time to set this fukker up and explain the rules to the audience... at that point, just have an ironman match in the same amount of time.

 

[Knockout_LR_Freshmart]

I don't want to dash your dreams, bruh but... this one's a bad dream. It's dangerous and wouldn't add anything to a feud blowoff that proper booking and a good video package couldn't do better for a regular-ass match. Also, this is 45 minutes, plus either having a whole show in a cage or needing the time to set this fukker up and explain the rules to the audience... at that point, just have an ironman match in the same amount of time.

Nah man I appreciate the actual criticism it was well informed and pretty funny too

I think in a perfect world where it's possible to execute, it's either the best or worst thing that would ever happen in wrestling. I've been randomly binging ECW though so I went to a very over-the-top place.

 

[2CT]

how would they get from the bottom cell to the middle cell? you said only the middle cell was roofless

also you saying do a 1 on 1 Ultimate X match? it's gotta be a multi-man match if that's the 3rd fall

 

[Knockout_LR_Freshmart]

how would they get from the bottom cell to the middle cell? you said only the middle cell was roofless

also you saying do a 1 on 1 Ultimate X match? it's gotta be a multi-man match if that's the 3rd fall

They would be let out climb the outside of the bottom cell (which has a roof) after the first fall, and the ref would open the door to the middle cage (which is the one that's roofless) and lock them in. Within this context of having 2 matches/falls before, I think a 1 on 1 UX/Ladder Match would be alright.

 

[2CT]

They would climb the bottom cell (which has a roof) after the first fall, and the ref would open the door to the middle cage (which is the one that's roofless) and lock them in. Within this context of having 2 matches/falls before, I think a 1 on 1 UX/Ladder Match would be alright.

so put a door on the bottom HIAC styled cell so they can get out and climb? shyt might work

they can use this to finally end the Gargano/Ciampa feud

 

[Novembruh]

It's a ladder match in a cage stacked on top of Hell in a Cell.
Doing any one of these concepts well would be better than trying to do all of them at once and getting someone hurt for the sake of a bunch of social media attention for one day and then a metric fukkton of memes of presumably top people in your company pratfalling, rolling ankles or trying to climb a ladder that either tilts over or managed to slip a leg through the chainlink grating and probably brain someone in the process.

Do people not remember how notoriously terrible everything that takes place on the top of a cage looks every time WWE tries it? Now imagine not only a match up there, but a match that's dangerous even when it's on solid footing. How many times dudes nearly end up hurt wrestling normal-ass ladder matches. They'd be 15+ feet in the air.The only people that would even be crazy enough to do this kind of match... already work for AEW.

 

[Knockout_LR_Freshmart]

It's a ladder match in a cage stacked on top of Hell in a Cell.
Doing any one of these concepts well would be better than trying to do all of them at once and getting someone hurt for the sake of a bunch of social media attention for one day and then a metric fukkton of memes of presumably top people in your company pratfalling, rolling ankles or trying to climb a ladder that either tilts over or managed to slip a leg through the chainlink grating and probably brain someone in the process.

Do people not remember how notoriously terrible everything that takes place on the top of a cage looks every time WWE tries it? Now imagine not only a match up there, but a match that's dangerous even when it's on solid footing. How many times dudes nearly end up hurt wrestling normal-ass ladder matches. They'd be 15+ feet in the air.The only people that would even be crazy enough to do this kind of match... already work for AEW.

It's slim that it could be possible, but what if the center of the Cell's roof (the area the Cage encloses) was more akin to a mat than steel? Where guys could take solid bumps that high without anymore danger than a regular cage match.

EDIT: actually realized it would have to be a more solid surface than Cell roofing if ladders were involved so this would have to be the move as far as constructing it.

 

[Novembruh]

Then you run into the issue where the people on the floor, who paid the most for the tickets, can't see the match because the opaque flooring would be in the way. And they couldn't watch it on the screen because the cage is in the way.
It would need to be done on a stage away from everyone, and effectively watched like a play, and that's never been a way wrestling works well. Best case scenario, it's done in a studio-style setting, like an empty-arena type thing where it'd able to be filmed well, but at that point there's no point.

Regardless of feasibility, though, it's overbooked to death. I get that you're interested in the 'how', but the real question needs to be 'why', and I can't think of an answer to that. It's a shark cage, a celebrity champion and a blowup doll on a pole away from basically being everything that killed WCW in one match. Which... I guess is a win in a way?

 

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