Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker is about to win his recall election tomorrow

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It's crazy how the Obama team is much more organized than the Democratic Party.
 

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It's crazy how the Obama team is much more organized than the Democratic Party.

yeah I don't understand how you don't capitalize on all that anger from a few months ago. republicans took all that tea party anger and swept thru the 2010 elections. dems can't even recall a slmey governor who sold his soul to the corporations in a moderate to progressive state.
 

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This has nothing to do with Obama. You guys just don't have a feel for Amurrrca(America) in this current political climate. People who espouse Kingpin/sly stallion-like views aren't an anomaly, they are the norm in plenty of places.

Most Americans I meet outside of the coasts genuinely don't like unions, love their god and guns, and think Occupy wall Street protestors are just whiny welfare queens. You east/west coasters are living in a completely political parallel universe from the rest of Amurrca.

Just get money.:yeshrug:
 

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It's crazy how the Obama team is much more organized than the Democratic Party.
It would of helped if Obama and his team would of went to Wisconsin, and campaigned against Walker.
 

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This has nothing to do with Obama. You guys just don't have a feel for Amurrrca(America) in this current political climate. People who espouse Kingpin/sly stallion-like views aren't an anomaly, they are the norm in plenty of places.

Most Americans I meet outside of the coasts genuinely don't like unions, love their god and guns, and think Occupy wall Street protestors are just whiny welfare queens. You east/west coasters are living in a completely political parallel universe from the rest of Amurrca.

Just get money.:yeshrug:

Sadly America is a dumb nation full of sheep who don't care about their own economic self interests.
 

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It would of helped if Obama and his team would of went to Wisconsin, and campaigned against Walker.

well they didn't want to have any attachment to the L so they kept their distance. the democrat candidate is weak.
 

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I don't think you guys understand politics so let me break this down.



Obama team =/= The DCCC


The DCCC contains some real liberal progressives, and is acutally largely the good guys in politics if you look closely. The DCCC chair Wasserman-Schultz is a strong progressive and the rest of the progressive caucus is prominent in the DCCC brass.


The Obama team doesn't care if a lot of Democrats get elected, because that will push them to the left, and that is not the arrangement they have with donors. Obama loves this 50/50 Republican Democrat split because it's what the donors want. They want the Republican policies implemented, but they also want people to accept them so they support Obama as well. So when Obama does get re-elected, if he does rather, when you see a grand bargain where they cut social security and medicare, and lower taxes on the rich and raise them on YOU, don't say you didn't hear it from me first ;)
 

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Sadly America is a dumb nation full of sheep who don't care about their own economic self interests.

Well see this is the type of dismissive clueless and patronizing coastal response i was expecting. I know people with degrees in computer science from wisconsin and another engineer from missouri who believe that stuff - smart people. They're not getting their talking points from fox, Fox news is getting their talking points from them. Fox news exist because sly-stallion exist, sly-stallion doesn't exist because of fox news. You have to understand the non east/west coast mentality - they're middle america frontiersman "culture" is more important to them than their economic self-interest, even when they ignorantly contradict("get your hands off my medi-care!!!"). The pulling yourself up from your bootstrap reptilian brain takes precedent over their frontal cortex economic self-interest. I'm typing on my phone if it sounds like im rambling, hopefully you get the gist.

If you want a more erudite take and ways to bridge the divide, read up on some of democratic senator jim webbs books.
 

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Well see this is the type of dismissive clueless and patronizing coastal response i was expecting. I know people with degrees in computer science from wisconsin and another engineer from missouri who believe that stuff - smart people. They're not getting their talking points from fox, Fox news is getting their talking points from them. Fox news exist because sly-stallion exist, sly-stallion doesn't exist because of fox news. You have to understand the non east/west coast mentality - they're middle america frontiersman "culture" is more important to them than their economic self-interest, even when they ignorantly contradict("get your hands off my medi-care!!!"). The pulling yourself up from your bootstrap reptilian brain takes precedent over their frontal cortex economic self-interest. I'm typing on my phone if it sounds like im rambling, hopefully you get the gist.

If you want a more erudite take and ways to bridge the divide, read up on some of democratic senator jim webbs books.

actually these folks you speak of that work in the private sector see their taxes going to keystone cops raking in 100k a year with full bennies and pensions on "disability" and they begin to wonder what the hell are they paying for. It has zero to do with culture or pulling yourself up from the bootstraps. People when they start to have families and bills vote with their wallets.

For ppl in Wisconsin if you work for the gvt you probably dislike Walker and if you dont you probably like him. All it is
 

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I don't think you guys understand politics so let me break this down.



Obama team =/= The DCCC


The DCCC contains some real liberal progressives, and is acutally largely the good guys in politics if you look closely. The DCCC chair Wasserman-Schultz is a strong progressive and the rest of the progressive caucus is prominent in the DCCC brass.


The Obama team doesn't care if a lot of Democrats get elected, because that will push them to the left, and that is not the arrangement they have with donors. Obama loves this 50/50 Republican Democrat split because it's what the donors want. They want the Republican policies implemented, but they also want people to accept them so they support Obama as well. So when Obama does get re-elected, if he does rather, when you see a grand bargain where they cut social security and medicare, and lower taxes on the rich and raise them on YOU, don't say you didn't hear it from me first ;)
I see what you are saying but i don't agree completely. When Obama did have a democratic majority in congress, he would blame the Blue Dog/conservative democrats for blocking progressives policies. I do agree with you that Obama don't care if republicans are in power.
It is not a big difference between democrats and republicans on the national level. Dems and the GOP agree on most of the major issue.
 

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actually these folks you speak of that work in the private sector see their taxes going to keystone cops raking in 100k a year with full bennies and pensions on "disability" and they begin to wonder what the hell are they paying for. It has zero to do with culture or pulling yourself up from the bootstraps. People when they start to have families and bills vote with their wallets.

For ppl in Wisconsin if you work for the gvt you probably dislike Walker and if you dont you probably like him. All it is

Thats true as well but ask yourself this question, why dont new yorkers care about tenured school teachers making 100k+ to sit in an empty classroom, where is the uproar? Would californians take walkers side? I was completely generalizing a group of people, some are just idiots like Robbie said. But east/west coasters should take note if they want to make some headway that many of these people dont live in a rupublican elite created matrix(brain washed). That it has deep roots - some provincial and parochial others truly philosophical and intellectual - beyond the fox news on the surface talking-points and shouldn't be outright dismissed.
 

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yeah I don't understand how you don't capitalize on all that anger from a few months ago. republicans took all that tea party anger and swept thru the 2010 elections. dems can't even recall a slmey governor who sold his soul to the corporations in a moderate to progressive state.

Thats because those same dems also sold their souls to those same corporations. Wake up dummy.
 
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