WILLIE MONROE JR. PUTS EX-MANAGER ON BLAST; EXPOSES TALE OF STOLEN MONEY AND FORGED SIGNATURE
By Percy Crawford | February 01, 2016
WILLIE MONROE JR. ON EX-MANAGER:
I'm going to give you a few stories and you could put this in print. This is just to let you know what I've dealt with and what some fighters may be dealing with right now. I'm not afraid to put it out there because I'm not going to be one of those athletes that you see in a story 15 years from now talking about how this guy was stealing and that guy was stealing and how they never got caught. And then the fans sit there and say, "How could you be so stupid and let someone steal from you?" I'm putting it on wax right now. I'm taking you along and letting you see what goes on, on a day to day basis, with fighters, athletes, and entertainers across the board. It is really sad. As a fighter, you put your life on the line. Guys walk into the ring and they don't walk out the same. Every time a fighter fights, he leaves a piece of himself in the ring. Money can't buy that back, but since it is a game of money, at least compensate the fighters. For someone to constantly steal from a fighter, and look a fighter dead in his eyes and look my family in their face and say, "Oh, I love you guys. You guys are the best and I'm so glad that we're a team and we're a family," and you're stealing a lot of money from that guy, you gotta be a real heartless person to do something like that. This guy has had dinner with my family. He sat down and talked with my dad and my wife and my two kids. It's sad!
I'm going to take you to the Bryan Vera fight. So the Bryan Vera fight, a couple of weeks before the fight, mind you, my manager is supposedly broke. Through training camp, I'm like, "Look, I need a place to stay. I need this. I need that." He didn't have it, so the money that I made from Boxcino and working two jobs, I had saved up. After doing my taxes, I had to pay for my own training camp to get ready for Bryan Vera; figure that. After I paid this dude a huge percentage out of Boxcino, I still had money left from Boxcino and the previous jobs I had worked to fund my own camp for the Vera fight. It was an ESPN fight, so it wasn't a lot of money made in that fight. So a sponsor comes up right before the Bryan Vera fight and my manager says, "I have a sponsor for you. They are only paying $1,000, but I think this is a company we can grow with." He's talking out the side of his neck. I know a lie when I hear one. So I'm like, "Alright, cool, whatever." This was while I was in Vegas sparring with Ishe Smith. So this sponsorship came up a little bit before then. So in November, I'm sparring with Ishe Smith, he drives over from California to Vegas, it's like a 4-hour drive, and he's like, "Yo, I got the sponsor locked in. All I need you to do is say that you'll do it and we're good. There are no papers to sign or nothing. I just need you to say that you will do it and we're locked in with the sponsor. They only paying $1,000, but I feel like we could grow with the company." He goes with that story again. I already know he's lying. So fast forward through camp, I pay for my own camp. This sponsor is supposed to be paying $1,000, oh, but they not going to give me the check until after the fight. Okay, cool, I pay for my own camp. So we get to the Bryan Vera fight and a couple of hours before weigh-ins, he's running around crazy. He comes up to my room with this bag of t-shirts and hats with the company name on it and his little managerial name on it. So I'm like, "Wait a minute. If a company gives you t-shirts to advertise their name on it, why is your brand on it too?" So he came to my room and was like, "Look man, I wish I could have gotten more, but these are the hats and shirts they want us to wear," and I'm not saying nothing; I'm just quiet and I'm letting him run his mouth. And he was like, "Look, I got it for us. They paying a thousand bucks and we going to rock and roll." I'm like, "Alright, cool. Thanks." He was like, "Will, you ain't saying much. You don't sound like you happy." I just told him I was focusing on the fight I had the next night. I wasn't very talkative. So when he leaves the room, I Google the company. It took me all of 10 minutes to get in touch with the guy who gave me the sponsorship.
So I'm talking nice to him. I'm like, "Hey, thanks a lot for the sponsorship. I can't wait to represent your company tomorrow. I really hope things go well. I'm so glad you guys picked me. I'm going to make you guys happy." And the guy was ecstatic to hear from me. He was like, "Oh my God, I can't believe I'm actually talking to you." So I'm like, "Hey, how much did you guys pay for that?" He said, "We gave your manager all of the checks." I said, "Yeah I'm just curious of how much you guys sent because I'm worried about medicals and my fight purse. I haven't even heard how much you guys are paying." He said, "Oh, we gave your manager $6,200." I didn't flip my hat like, oh, this dude lying to me because the company did what they were supposed to do. So I said, "Oh, okay, cool. Do you have those checks?" He said, "Oh, we already gave those checks to your manager." I said, "That's cool. Do you have a photocopy of those checks just for my tax documents? I keep a nice little folder of my own stuff just in case." He said, "No problem Mr. Monroe. I'll get those photocopies right over to you." He sends me the checks over. Don't you know a week before Thanksgiving, he gave my manager a check fro $5,000. So let's rewind back to when I was in camp with Ishe Smith. When I was in camp with Ishe Smith and he came to my hotel room saying he got a thousand dollars, that means the week before that, they had already gave him $5,000 and he spent it on Thanksgiving and Christmas stuff. But he sitting in my face straight up lying to me about a thousand bucks. They sent me a photocopy of the checks over in my email. So I showed it to my team and I said, "After this fight is over, I gotta get rid of this dude. This isn't right."
Now that's the sponsorship issue. Check this out! The day of the weigh-ins, I get off the scale and Artie Pelullo of Banner Promotions is like, "Willie, I really need to talk to you." I'm doing a couple of interviews and trying to hydrate and Artie comes back within like 4 minutes and he says, "Willie, if you want your money for this fight, I really need to talk to you." So I'm like, "Okay, I really need to talk to my promoter," so I stopped doing the interviews. He pulls me to the side and he pulls out a piece of paper and he says, "Willie, is this your signature?" I said, "Heck no that's not my signature." He said, "I didn't think this was your signature." It was about 2 weeks before Christmas. I called Artie Pelullo myself and I was like, "Look Artie, throughout Boxcino, you guys were paying my manager his percentage out of my check. That was fine and dandy. Boxcino is over. I did that for Boxcino because the fights were so close and the tournament was all inclusive. So for the Vera fight, this is no longer Boxcino, so cut me my whole check and I'll write my manager his percentage out of my business account." Artie said, "Say no more. You're the fighter, it's your check, and you get the say. No problem." So for me to tell Artie that 2 weeks before Christmas and for him to come to me on January 16th with this fax saying take my manager's percentage out, it looked fishy to Artie. Artie said, "Look, as the promoter, I don't want to get myself caught up in this. Who am I paying?" I said, "Pay me!" He said, "Okay, well you will have to initial right here that this isn't your signature and that I have to pay you. Willie, I'm telling you, this is not the type of guy you want to deal with in boxing because he's going to make you look really bad." So not only is this dude forging my signature, he's stealing money. The crazy thing is, he never even gave me the thousand bucks off of the sponsorship deal. He took the entire $6,200. I'm quiet, I don't get into heated debates and arguments, but my grandfather always said, "You can give a person so much rope and they could either tie a pretty bow with that rope or hang themselves. The choice is theirs." You just have to give them enough rope. And this dude done hung himself a number of times.
WILLIE MONROE JR. PUTS EX-MANAGER ON BLAST; EXPOSES TALE OF STOLEN MONEY AND FORGED SIGNATURE || FIGHTHYPE.COM
These nikkas are crazy man...stealing from the fighters who are the ones who need every penny
By Percy Crawford | February 01, 2016
WILLIE MONROE JR. ON EX-MANAGER:
I'm going to give you a few stories and you could put this in print. This is just to let you know what I've dealt with and what some fighters may be dealing with right now. I'm not afraid to put it out there because I'm not going to be one of those athletes that you see in a story 15 years from now talking about how this guy was stealing and that guy was stealing and how they never got caught. And then the fans sit there and say, "How could you be so stupid and let someone steal from you?" I'm putting it on wax right now. I'm taking you along and letting you see what goes on, on a day to day basis, with fighters, athletes, and entertainers across the board. It is really sad. As a fighter, you put your life on the line. Guys walk into the ring and they don't walk out the same. Every time a fighter fights, he leaves a piece of himself in the ring. Money can't buy that back, but since it is a game of money, at least compensate the fighters. For someone to constantly steal from a fighter, and look a fighter dead in his eyes and look my family in their face and say, "Oh, I love you guys. You guys are the best and I'm so glad that we're a team and we're a family," and you're stealing a lot of money from that guy, you gotta be a real heartless person to do something like that. This guy has had dinner with my family. He sat down and talked with my dad and my wife and my two kids. It's sad!
I'm going to take you to the Bryan Vera fight. So the Bryan Vera fight, a couple of weeks before the fight, mind you, my manager is supposedly broke. Through training camp, I'm like, "Look, I need a place to stay. I need this. I need that." He didn't have it, so the money that I made from Boxcino and working two jobs, I had saved up. After doing my taxes, I had to pay for my own training camp to get ready for Bryan Vera; figure that. After I paid this dude a huge percentage out of Boxcino, I still had money left from Boxcino and the previous jobs I had worked to fund my own camp for the Vera fight. It was an ESPN fight, so it wasn't a lot of money made in that fight. So a sponsor comes up right before the Bryan Vera fight and my manager says, "I have a sponsor for you. They are only paying $1,000, but I think this is a company we can grow with." He's talking out the side of his neck. I know a lie when I hear one. So I'm like, "Alright, cool, whatever." This was while I was in Vegas sparring with Ishe Smith. So this sponsorship came up a little bit before then. So in November, I'm sparring with Ishe Smith, he drives over from California to Vegas, it's like a 4-hour drive, and he's like, "Yo, I got the sponsor locked in. All I need you to do is say that you'll do it and we're good. There are no papers to sign or nothing. I just need you to say that you will do it and we're locked in with the sponsor. They only paying $1,000, but I feel like we could grow with the company." He goes with that story again. I already know he's lying. So fast forward through camp, I pay for my own camp. This sponsor is supposed to be paying $1,000, oh, but they not going to give me the check until after the fight. Okay, cool, I pay for my own camp. So we get to the Bryan Vera fight and a couple of hours before weigh-ins, he's running around crazy. He comes up to my room with this bag of t-shirts and hats with the company name on it and his little managerial name on it. So I'm like, "Wait a minute. If a company gives you t-shirts to advertise their name on it, why is your brand on it too?" So he came to my room and was like, "Look man, I wish I could have gotten more, but these are the hats and shirts they want us to wear," and I'm not saying nothing; I'm just quiet and I'm letting him run his mouth. And he was like, "Look, I got it for us. They paying a thousand bucks and we going to rock and roll." I'm like, "Alright, cool. Thanks." He was like, "Will, you ain't saying much. You don't sound like you happy." I just told him I was focusing on the fight I had the next night. I wasn't very talkative. So when he leaves the room, I Google the company. It took me all of 10 minutes to get in touch with the guy who gave me the sponsorship.
So I'm talking nice to him. I'm like, "Hey, thanks a lot for the sponsorship. I can't wait to represent your company tomorrow. I really hope things go well. I'm so glad you guys picked me. I'm going to make you guys happy." And the guy was ecstatic to hear from me. He was like, "Oh my God, I can't believe I'm actually talking to you." So I'm like, "Hey, how much did you guys pay for that?" He said, "We gave your manager all of the checks." I said, "Yeah I'm just curious of how much you guys sent because I'm worried about medicals and my fight purse. I haven't even heard how much you guys are paying." He said, "Oh, we gave your manager $6,200." I didn't flip my hat like, oh, this dude lying to me because the company did what they were supposed to do. So I said, "Oh, okay, cool. Do you have those checks?" He said, "Oh, we already gave those checks to your manager." I said, "That's cool. Do you have a photocopy of those checks just for my tax documents? I keep a nice little folder of my own stuff just in case." He said, "No problem Mr. Monroe. I'll get those photocopies right over to you." He sends me the checks over. Don't you know a week before Thanksgiving, he gave my manager a check fro $5,000. So let's rewind back to when I was in camp with Ishe Smith. When I was in camp with Ishe Smith and he came to my hotel room saying he got a thousand dollars, that means the week before that, they had already gave him $5,000 and he spent it on Thanksgiving and Christmas stuff. But he sitting in my face straight up lying to me about a thousand bucks. They sent me a photocopy of the checks over in my email. So I showed it to my team and I said, "After this fight is over, I gotta get rid of this dude. This isn't right."
Now that's the sponsorship issue. Check this out! The day of the weigh-ins, I get off the scale and Artie Pelullo of Banner Promotions is like, "Willie, I really need to talk to you." I'm doing a couple of interviews and trying to hydrate and Artie comes back within like 4 minutes and he says, "Willie, if you want your money for this fight, I really need to talk to you." So I'm like, "Okay, I really need to talk to my promoter," so I stopped doing the interviews. He pulls me to the side and he pulls out a piece of paper and he says, "Willie, is this your signature?" I said, "Heck no that's not my signature." He said, "I didn't think this was your signature." It was about 2 weeks before Christmas. I called Artie Pelullo myself and I was like, "Look Artie, throughout Boxcino, you guys were paying my manager his percentage out of my check. That was fine and dandy. Boxcino is over. I did that for Boxcino because the fights were so close and the tournament was all inclusive. So for the Vera fight, this is no longer Boxcino, so cut me my whole check and I'll write my manager his percentage out of my business account." Artie said, "Say no more. You're the fighter, it's your check, and you get the say. No problem." So for me to tell Artie that 2 weeks before Christmas and for him to come to me on January 16th with this fax saying take my manager's percentage out, it looked fishy to Artie. Artie said, "Look, as the promoter, I don't want to get myself caught up in this. Who am I paying?" I said, "Pay me!" He said, "Okay, well you will have to initial right here that this isn't your signature and that I have to pay you. Willie, I'm telling you, this is not the type of guy you want to deal with in boxing because he's going to make you look really bad." So not only is this dude forging my signature, he's stealing money. The crazy thing is, he never even gave me the thousand bucks off of the sponsorship deal. He took the entire $6,200. I'm quiet, I don't get into heated debates and arguments, but my grandfather always said, "You can give a person so much rope and they could either tie a pretty bow with that rope or hang themselves. The choice is theirs." You just have to give them enough rope. And this dude done hung himself a number of times.
WILLIE MONROE JR. PUTS EX-MANAGER ON BLAST; EXPOSES TALE OF STOLEN MONEY AND FORGED SIGNATURE || FIGHTHYPE.COM
These nikkas are crazy man...stealing from the fighters who are the ones who need every penny
.......and he goes right back at them
..the rabbit hole behind that im sure most go deeper than that and i have a feeling all this other shyt being posted now is prolly why
