Why Do Bad Teams Stay Bad? Like the Wizards!!

[froggle]

The Wizards are a joke and honestly, I keep forgetting that they are in the league.

Why do bad teams just keep sucking?

bad ownership?
bad management?
horrible drafting?
free agents won't sign there?
cursed?

 

[Mr swag]

the draft lotto

 

[ManBearPig]

-their #1 draft pick isnt playing
-nobody wants to play for them
-no true leader ship
-Gilbert Arenas polluted that franchise

 

[mastermind]

The Wizards are a joke and honestly, I keep forgetting that they are in the league.

Why do bad teams just keep sucking?

bad ownership?
bad management?
horrible drafting?
free agents won't sign there?
cursed?

you answered your own question.


If it happens over years with different players, then the answer is that it is not the players but those who are running things.

 

[tremonthustler1]

here's usually how it works (in most cases, but you'll get the point)

if your team sucks for 1-2 years, change the players

if your team sucks for 3-4 years, change the coach

if your team sucks for 5-6 years, change the GM

if your team sucks for 7+ years, it's ownership, and all you can do is bank on father time's undefeated streak.

Now sometimes a GM may need be replaced sooner, a coach may need to go earlier, and you'll always need to change players, but once you've reached the 7+ part, you're in a bad way.

 

[Mr swag]

here's usually how it works (in most cases, but you'll get the point)

if your team sucks for 1-2 years, change the players

if your team sucks for 3-4 years, change the coach

if your team sucks for 5-6 years, change the GM

if your team sucks for 7+ years, it's ownership, and all you can do is bank on father time's undefeated streak.

Now sometimes a GM may need be replaced sooner, a coach may need to go earlier, and you'll always need to change players, but once you've reached the 7+ part, you're in a bad way.

hasnt been 7 years for us yet. so according to this we are just fine

 

[FAH1223]

Ted Leonsis bought the team in 2010 after Abe Polin died. However, the Wizards had two straight seasons (08-09 and 09-10) of losing records at that point. Also Grunfeld traded the 5th pick in 2009 for Randy Foye/Mike Miller when that pick became Rubio or could have been Curry.

Ernie Grunfeld has been the GM since 2003. He built the Arenas/Jamison teams that went to the playoffs for 4 straight years (advancing only once). He gave those guys huge contracts, he was then the one that traded the roster away in February 2010 to clear cap room and tank. We go John Wall in 2010.

Leonsis had a GREAT chance to put his stamp on the franchise by going for a fresh new start once he bought the team by getting rid of EG. He let Grunfeld play out his contract which involved two more losing seasons and rosters full of young players with low basketball IQ.

The moment of truth came in Spring 2012 when Grunfeld's contract was expiring and Leonsis could have moved to REALLY get things rolling by getting a new GM, a new HC after that, and financial flexibility by amnestying OR buying out Rashard Lewis and signing some bargain FAs in the summer (think Scola or Brand or some other amnesty guys)... instead he signs Leonsis for 2 more years and then we see them trading Lewis and a pick (which became Darius Miller) to add $43 million of salary on the cap till 2014 in two role players.

Leonsis failed by keeping a continuing failure in Grunfeld. Grunfeld is the one who brought in all the 'knuckleheads', he is the one that enabled a culture of zero accountability, and he is the one that plays politics and scapegoats people when the going gets really bad.

Mark my words, if the Wizards lose again tonight to the Blazers. Wittman will be fired and Don Newman (Gregg Poppovich's former assistant for the last decade and a coach Grunfeld knows from his Milwaukee days) will take over. ANOTHER Ernie Grunfeld lifeline is in the makings... and Grunfeld has a contract that runs till 2014 too.

 

[tremonthustler1]

hasnt been 7 years for us yet. so according to this we are just fine

well your owner died so there's that throw in.

You already ditched Flip after 3 1/2 years.

This will be the team's 5th season without a playoff appearance, so Grunfeld's really on the hot seat.

And changing players is nothing new to the Wizards.

 

[mastermind]

well your owner died so there's that throw in.

You already ditched Flip after 3 1/2 years.

This will be the team's 5th season without a playoff appearance, so Grunfeld's really on the hot seat.

And changing players is nothing new to the Wizards.

Flip was here only two and a quarter of a season

 

[StatUS]

Wizards thread number 1302394 this week

 

[tremonthustler1]

Flip was here only two and a quarter of a season

true. I always lump him and Wittman together since they're always joined at the hip.

 

[FAH1223]

true. I always lump him and Wittman together since they're always joined at the hip.

Flip got 2 wins in the first 17 games last year...

Wittman has none in 12...

 

[Chris.B]

John Wall = BUST

 

[Mr swag]

John Wall = BUST

dude is worse then that. he is a cancer to this fanbase becuase some clown still think he can play. has no reason being on a NBA roster.......


but he runs fast tho

 

[714562]

Fan base should be up there.

Poorer cities, or cities with lax fanbases tend to have a harder time raising money.