Why can't FBA/ADOS get the same specific ethnic designation and specific laws like the Native Hawaiians?

[Voice of Reason]

The Interior Department Is Developing A New Policy For Native Hawaiian Consultation

The Interior Department announced Tuesday that it will seek input from community leaders in coming weeks as it develops its first consultation policy for Native Hawaiians.

Unlike American Indian tribes and Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians are not federally recognized by the U.S. government as having their own sovereign nation.

The Interior Department created a process for Native Hawaiians to form their own government-to-government relationship with the U.S. in 2016 under then-President Barack Obama, but the Hawaiian community has been unable to agree on a path forward due to deep divisions.

The new consultation policy appears to be an attempt by the Biden administration to put Native Hawaiians on similar footing as other Indigenous groups that are federally recognized.

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From the Department of Interior:

Requirement to Consult with the Native Hawaiian Community | U.S. Department of the Interior

Requirement to consult with the Native Hawaiian Community

www.doi.gov

Although the Framers of the U.S. Constitution used the term “Indian tribe” to broadly reference indigenous peoples, a grouping that includes the Native Hawaiian Community, Congress also has enacted laws distinctly and expressly for the benefit of the Native Hawaiian Community.


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We need the same designation as the native Hawaiian for the descendants of slavery.

 

[Voice of Reason]

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[HarlemHottie]

Because we have no advocates.

 

[skokiaan]

The new consultation policy appears to be an attempt by the Biden administration to put Native Hawaiians on similar footing as other Indigenous groups that are federally recognized.

 

[OneManGang]

Hawaiians literally had their own kingdom and a government with royalty before Uncle Sam stole it from them, very recently actually. Same with native groups over the centuries who had claim to lands and were nations.

How would this work for “ADOS/FBA”? What lands would you legally have claim to to make a case for this designation?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Because "FBA" and "ADOS" are not considered sovereign nations like Native Americans or Native Hawaiians because we do not have a recognized political or legal relationship with the U.S. government based on treaties or historical sovereignty.

 

[coldcall]

Because you chose integration

 

[ItsPeople]

I always wonder what our collective psyche would be if we would have referred to ourselves as Africans, you know instead of a shade.

Before you but but but me, how come nth gen *insert race* Americans still mostly refer to themselves as the continents their ancestors were from?

“na my brother, we are the real natives”

“Look at my eyes, I got Chinese somewhere in me” saying this while he is high as a kite.

 

[OneManGang]

Because you chose integration

This is victim blaming

Freed slaves didn’t choose integration or independence. They did what the needed to for their specific situations and their families

Native groups didn’t choose anything either, they had very different situations than blacks did

 

[Voice of Reason]

Because "FBA" and "ADOS" are not considered sovereign nations like Native Americans or Native Hawaiians because we do not have a recognized political or legal relationship with the U.S. government based on treaties or historical sovereignty.

The Interior Department Is Developing A New Policy For Native Hawaiian Consultation

www.civilbeat.org

Unlike American Indian tribes and Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians are not federally recognized by the U.S. government as having their own sovereign nation.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The Interior Department Is Developing A New Policy For Native Hawaiian Consultation

www.civilbeat.org

Unlike American Indian tribes and Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians are not federally recognized by the U.S. government as having their own sovereign nation.

Do you understand what that means and why they are advocating for the recognition?

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Because you chose integration

And I "chose" to neg you faggit.

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Because "FBA" and "ADOS" are not considered sovereign nations like Native Americans or Native Hawaiians because we do not have a recognized political or legal relationship with the U.S. government based on treaties or historical sovereignty.

We need to get the federal government to officially recognize the damage slavery and legal segregation has done, that's the first step towards progress

 

[coldcall]

And I "chose" to neg you faggit.

Oh no not a neg

 

[Uachet]

Because "FBA" and "ADOS" are not considered sovereign nations like Native Americans or Native Hawaiians because we do not have a recognized political or legal relationship with the U.S. government based on treaties or historical sovereignty.

That does not mean this could not be a viable path for us to go. Our land was wasn't stolen from us, we were stolen from our land. Our original kingdoms were enslaved, and though we are now mixed, we are still our own ethnic group. Seeking a similar treatment as others who were done wrong by the US, even if not in the exact same way, is a viable path to take.

We already have some who attempt this, but unfortunately it is religion based instead of ethnicity based.