Why Always Egypt?

Northern Son

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Why is it that most (non-continental) blacks who speak of African pride and African history seems singularly fixated on Egypt and Nubia's black roots and not African civilizations further south of the Sahara? Why do we ignore or even dismiss Ghana, Songhai, Mali, Timbuktu, Great Zimbabawe, Benin Empire or the Zulus when the subject comes up? I know Egypt is the "cradle of (white, Western Asian and Middle Eastern) civilization" but is that really why most so called Afrocentric 5%er types depict themselves as Pharaohs instead of Obas and extol an image of a black Tut instead of a Mansa Munsa? Considering almost every black person of the diaspora is West African and not Nubian that strikes me as odd.

I dunno, I often feel that most "black power" blacks don't feel sub-Saharan African culture is "good enough" and unconsciously put Egypt on a pedestal because it was essential to white civilization's development.

Timbuktu:

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Benin Kingdom courtyard plaque:


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Benin warrior plaques:

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Mansa Musa (Malian king):

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Oba Esige (Benin king):

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Pyramids.
Yeah obviously some cism is involved cuz Egypt is viewed as "less black" , but the Pyramids plus the whole King Tut phenomenon that lasted from like the 1920s through 1980s is what has pushed the love for Egypt. Not to mention Cleopatra and all that sh!t thats tied closely to Rome. Shakespeare wrote about her...

The answer is actually pretty obvious.
 

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I always thought the civilizations of ZImbabwe were impressive :yeshrug: as a non-black observer. cool architecture.
 

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Well Egypt is perhaps the greatest civilization of all ages. It's impressive regardless of your race. I think people gravitate towards that. The fact that it was a "black" civilization is attractive to people who have been conditioned to believe that they didn't make contributions to world history. The same reason white Europeans claim Greek and Roman civilizations for themselves when Roman and Greek civilizations were more Mediterranean than European.
 

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Well Egypt is perhaps the greatest civilization of all ages. It's impressive regardless of your race. I think people gravitate towards that. The fact that it was a "black" civilization is attractive to people who have been conditioned to believe that they didn't make contributions to world history. The same reason white Europeans claim Greek and Roman civilizations for themselves when Roman and Greek civilizations were more Mediterranean than European.

Yes definitely, but it's the singular interest in Egypt alone and the general apathy towards civilizations from where diaspora blacks actually descend from which puzzles me. There really seems to be a pervasive sentiment amongst "pro black" Afrocentrists that culture in Africa is non-existent outside of Egypt and Nubia. Basically they're parroting the bullshyt white academia taught them (the stuff they're supposedly subverting).

I just don't understand how you can claim to love your heritage and scream "Africa" then proceed to ignore the vast majority of African culture.
 
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The reason its always Egypt is cause its big dog in town. Most of the educated folks know Africa has many other civilizations but Egypt is not only the greatest in Africa but quite possibly the greatest civilization in all of history. Plus it pisses us off that white folks always deny the truth, which is that Egypt was black, because of their racism.
 

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It's very....very annoying.

This is the statue of my great, great, great, great....lord knows how long, grandfather from Ife.

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I always ask my rasta homies how you leap frog our history in West Africa and go to Ethiopia and claim it as your own.
 

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It's very....very annoying.

This is the statue of my great, great, great, great....lord knows how long, grandfather from Ife.

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I always ask my rasta homies how you leap frog our history in West Africa and go to Ethiopia and claim it as your own.

Damn that statue is amazing.

Completely with you on that last sentence.
 

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Damn that statue is amazing.

Completely with you on that last sentence.


About that statue....I'm doing my research, and it's housed in some museum in Britain.

I've come to the conclusion that my great uncle, the first AFrican that owned a Rolls Royce, sold it to them. :smh:

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Here he is chilling with Winston Churchill.
 

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most slaves in the Americas come from the western horn, I don't think a lot was taught about the cultures that existed there before slavery in grade school and unless you're into history you're not going to learn about them


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good stuff nycrebel
 

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About that statue....I'm doing my research, and it's housed in some museum in Britain.

I've come to the conclusion that my great uncle, the first AFrican that owned a Rolls Royce, sold it to them. :smh:

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Here he is chilling with Winston Churchill.

Damn.
 
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