Who's Worse: Jim Ryan or Phil Spencer?

[bogey_j]

both arguably the WOAT "head of brand" executives in gaming


who is actually worse tho?

it never even crossed my mind that Jim Ryan could be worse than Phil, but after that showcase he might be. dude was literally given a winning hand and is still finding ways to mess that up. At least Phil has the excuse of still dealing with the fallout from the Don Mattrick era, whereas Jim Ryan seems like he's actively sabotaging Sony

 

[levitate]

Who’s worse, the dude in first place or the dude in third?

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

Based off a showcase?!?! Come on breh, this is stupid

 

[5n0man]

The showcase wasn't even bad, why are people crucifying Jim Ryan for not showing a bunch of games that weren't ready to be shown? Isn't one of the complaints about Phil is that he hypes games that are 10 years from release?


Seems like people hyped themselves into believing this showcase was about Sony exclusives despite Sony themselves saying third parties were the focus.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

The showcase wasn't even bad, why are people crucifying Jim Ryan for not showing a bunch of games that weren't ready to be shown? Isn't one of the complaints about Phil is that he hypes games that are 10 years from release?


Seems like people hyped themselves into believing this showcase was about Sony exclusives despite Sony themselves saying third parties were the focus.

I mean, he did literally show a bunch of games that weren’t ready to be shown though

and sony did not say 3rd party games were the focus. People are upset because they didn’t set expectations. they’ve been telling us Factiosn news is coming all year with concept art and their first big showcase doesn’t have it and they didn’t mention beforehand we wouldn’t see it

The show will run a bit over an hour, focusing on PS5 and PS VR2 games in development from top studios from around the world. Expect a glimpse at several new creations from PlayStation Studios, as well as spellbinding games from our third-party partners and indie creators.

Realistically we only saw spider-man 2, cgi trailers aren’t even made internally

 

[Rekkapryde]

Based off a showcase?!?! Come on breh, this is stupid

this thread should get Courtdog thread ratings.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

It’s all narratives breh.

Both of them have their perspective companies making record revenue.

What they’ve both realized is that “console warz” isn’t good business. Which is why the perception of the job they are doing is so skewed by console warriors online.

In reality. Investors are more than happy at the job both of them are doing.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Both of them have their perspective companies making record revenue.

This isn’t true.

 

[Canon]

one guy is setting records with PS5 sales and software sales. Has dropped a ton of solid exclusives as well over the years.

think about this one real hard?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

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This isn’t true.

Yeah it is

 

[Diondon]

One you hardly see or hear from, and doesn't have a laundry list of lies and failures under his belt

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

It’s all narratives breh.

Both of them have their perspective companies making record revenue.

One of them is making profit. The other does not disclose if their division makes any sort of profit.

Revenue means nowt without operating costs and profit margins.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

One of them is making profit. The other does not disclose if their division makes any sort of profit.

Revenue means nowt without operating costs and profit margins.

Microsoft as a company chooses how to disclose their financials.

When you got hundreds of billions in the bank and you are making billions every day, growth and revenue are much more important than short term profit.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

One delivers and the other one doesn't.