Who is George Santos? He claims to have degrees from Baruch & NYU but nobody knows him. Update: He’s officially been ousted from congress

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Cause they worried about consolidating power. The machine don’t give a fukk.
if they were worried about consolidating power as a solid blue state they would behave like a solid red state. gerrymandering would have been done in a manner to screw the republicans, not help them. and a candidate like this would have his whole life poured over the min he announced his candidacy. instead they gave him a free pass.
 

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I have an issue with a lack of diversity of thought, which is currently plaguing our leadership. Most of the elected officials are either lawyers or have masters in public policy, or a MBA or bachelors degree in policy. They went to school to be in politics.
You answered your own question here. People in politics are highly educated because they set out to be politicians. That, to me, is extremely neutral.

What is wrong with someone who worked in retail and organized their fellow workers to get into politics? How about a nurse? Or an astrophysicists? A teacher? It’s hard to get elected in this country unless you come from certain fields and make connections with people from those fields. Or you lie about it like Santos did. Or you do whatever Lauren Bobert allegedly did to get to her level, but citing two or three people as the rule is missing the point because they are outliers.
Here's the contempt I'm talking about. There's a wide variety in what elected officials do and their experiences even if they all went to law school or got an MBA.

Off the top of my head both Cori Bush and Lauren underwood were both recently elected and both were nurses.

According to this 115 legislators currently serving in congress worked in education with 57 having been teachers:



And for shyts and giggles --physicist:



I don’t consider people who don’t have college degrees to be uneducated, and I think that’s a weird thing to suggest. They may less education, in regards to not having a college degree, but these people ain’t stupid and closer to the average voter than what we currently have.
This is mostly a strawman with a side of red herring.

It seems you're attempting to explain away something nice and neat that seems to be more complex.

College educated voters tend to vote dem. So it doesn't surprise me that you see a lot of highly educated representatives.

But more educated voters also tend to vote dem, which also suggests a correlation between education and desire for less regressive policy.

But what I find more eye opening here is the less educated resonate more with conservatives and their economic policies. Which makes me question where you're going with this in the first place?:manny:


End of the day it comes back to voters voting against their on self interest in mass and you have trouble blaming voters for their own chosen behavior.
 

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The problem with that perception is you're now suggesting the average person has no true agency of their own, or worse, they're willingly voting against their own self interest because they believe in that social order.
In his defense, he isn’t just “now” suggesting this. He’s not so subtly alluded this for years (at minimum) on here. At a certain point you have to wonder who isn’t the bad guy, because all I ever hear from him is how evil this person is and how influenced by money that person is and how that one over there doesn’t care about the poor. Are there any decent humans left? (Aside from him of course)
 

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In his defense, he isn’t just “now” suggesting this. He’s not so subtly alluded this for years (at minimum) on here. At a certain point you have to wonder who isn’t the bad guy, because all I ever hear from him is how evil this person is and how influenced by money that person is and how that one over there doesn’t care about the poor. Are there any decent humans left? (Aside from him of course)
For sure and I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that this isn't an "only I" situation and merely just coping with being unhappy with the realities of society or his preferred political movement.

Because when I condense it down any other way it doesn't speak well.
 

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You answered your own question here. People in politics are highly educated because they set out to be politicians. That, to me, is extremely neutral.
It’s not tho. I think you need different experiences than going through the same route. You can’t know whats good for everyone by being around one set of people like these people are.

It seems you're attempting to explain away something nice and neat that seems to be more complex.

College educated voters tend to vote dem. So it doesn't surprise me that you see a lot of highly educated representatives.

But more educated voters also tend to vote dem, which also suggests a correlation between education and desire for less regressive policy.

But what I find more eye opening here is the less educated resonate more with conservatives and their economic policies. Which makes me question where you're going with this in the first place?:manny:
And the problem here is you can’t see this past political parties and politics. This is pundit brain.

Neither parties care about working class issues so the GOP give these people hate and anger, and they consume that. It’s not rocket science.

End of the day it comes back to voters voting against their on self interest in mass and you have trouble blaming voters for their own chosen behavior.
Unless you are in the top 10% of income and wealth in America, we all vote against our interests.

The problem is none of us have don’t have the imagination to think of something else.
 

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The North shore leader (local newspaper in Suffolk county broke the story on Santos 4 months ago.

Very well earned victory lap here.


Months before the New York Times published a December article suggesting Rep.-elect George Santos (R-N.Y.) had fabricated much of his résumé and biography, a tiny publication on Long Island was ringing alarm bells about its local candidate.

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The North Shore Leader wrote in September, when few others were covering Santos, about his “inexplicable rise” in reported net worth — from essentially nothing in 2020 to as much as $11 million two years later.

The story noted other oddities about the self-described gay Trump supporter with Jewish heritage, who would go on to flip New York’s 3rd Congressional District district from blue to red, and is now under investigation by authorities for misrepresenting his background to voters.

Interestingly, Santos shows no U.S. real property in his financial disclosure, although he has repeatedly claimed to own ‘a mansion in Oyster Bay Cove’ on Tiffany Road; and ‘a mansion in the Hamptons’ on Dune Road,” managing editor Maureen Daly wrote in the Leader. “For a man of such alleged wealth, campaign records show that Santos and his husband live in a rented apartment, in an attached rowhouse in Queens.”
The Leader reluctantly endorsed Santos’s Democratic opponent the next month. “This newspaper would like to endorse a Republican,” it wrote, but Santos “is so bizarre, unprincipled and sketchy that we cannot. … He boasts like an insecure child — but he’s most likely just a fabulist — a fake.”
It was the stuff national headlines are supposed to be built on: A hyperlocal outlet like the Leader does the leg work, regional papers verify and amplify the story, and before long an emerging political scandal is being broadcast coast-to-coast.

But that system, which has atrophied for decades amid the destruction of news economies, appears to have failed completely this time. Despite a well-heeled and well-connected readership — the Leader’s publisher says it counts among its subscribers Fox News hosts Sean Hannity and Jesse Watters and several senior people at Newsday, a once-mighty Long Island-based tabloid that has won 19 Pulitzers — no one followed its story before Election Day.
When Santos apologized for “embellishing my résumé,” in a New York Post interview published Monday, he also vowed to serve out his term as a U.S. congressman.
Local news doesn’t get much more local than the Leader. A weekly published and primarily run by Grant Lally, an attorney whose parents bought it in the late 1990s, most of the newspaper’s staff works part time and holds down other jobs to pay the bills.

Nobody can survive on local papers alone,” Lally said in an interview.
Lally was particularly well-prepared to cover the race for New York’s 3rd; he had run for the seat himself in 1994, 1996 and again in 2014. A lifelong Republican, Lally was George W. Bush’s floor manager in Miami during the 2000 presidential election recount.
The Leader’s staff, which includes students and retirees, all are steeped in the largely wealthy local communities on the North Shore of Long Island, which gives them access to local political gossip. “We can boil that down very quickly,” said Lally.
A few years ago, Lally said, he went to lunch with Santos, who was soliciting support for his political career. “Right from the start, there was something off with him,” he recalled.

Santos told Lally that his family was from Belgium. Years later, Lally said, he watched Santos on the campaign trail “talking about his grandparents who had fled the Holocaust from Ukraine.”
“It was just a flagrant blatant concoction,” Lally said.
Lally has stayed in touch with his former staffers from his congressional campaigns, who would sometimes call him to gossip about local elections over the spring and summer. “You wouldn’t believe what we are seeing about Santos,” Lally recalled being told on some of those calls.
One tip came from a local home builder who said he had driven Santos around Long Island to look at mansions the candidate claimed to own and wanted to renovate. But Santos wouldn’t let the builder inside any of the homes, Lally said. He claimed he had tenants that prevented them from entering.
 

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Another call came from a state senator who said a house in the Hamptons that Santos claimed to own was worth far less than the candidate said — and was owned by someone else anyway.
These tips helped inform the Leader’s reporting and its editorial, which were deeply skeptical of Santos’s claims of sudden riches.
“We expected it to pop a lot more than it did,” Lally said. For one, he thought that Santos’s opponent, Robert Zimmerman (D), would have made more of the Leader’s endorsement and “pushed” the contradictions his newspaper uncovered into larger publications such as Newsday and the New York Times.
Zimmerman told the Post that there were “many red flags that were brought to the attention of many folks in the media” but that “frankly a lot of folks in the media are saying they didn’t have the personnel, time or money to delve further” into the story. “This experience has shown me just how important it is for everyone to support local media.”

Kim Como, a spokeswoman for Newsday, did not answer specific questions about the paper’s coverage of Santos but said in a statement: “We are continuing to cover the Santos story every day.”
It’s possible that the Leader’s reporting fell into a void in part because there are fewer papers to cover the news than in the past. The number of journalists has declined by 60 percent since 2005, according to government statistics.
Research from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University this year found that on average two newspapers are disappearing in the U.S. every week. The nation has lost more than a quarter of its newspapers since 2005 and is on track to lose one-third by 2025. There are now more than 1,600 counties with only one newspaper, typically a weekly.

Local journalists are kind of like having beat cops walking the street,” said Tim Franklin, senior associate dean and professor at the Medill School. “Just as good beat cops can help keep a neighborhood safer, the presence of local journalists help to keep our politics more honest and our government more accountable.”
Franklin predicts that “if we don’t fix the crisis in local news, we’re going to see more George Santos-type cases and instances of politicians going unchecked.”
Santos and his representatives did not respond to requests for comment.
Ashley Fetters Maloy contributed to this report.
 

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Here’s the orginal story on Santos published in september from the North shore leader.

Controversial US congressional candidate George Santos has finally filed his Personal Financial Disclosure Report on September 6th - 20 months late - and he is claiming an inexplicable rise in his alleged net worth to $11 million..

Two years ago, in 2020, Santos' personal financial disclosures claimed that he had no assets over $5,000 - no bank accounts, no stock accounts, no real property. A net worth barely above "zero". And his income was only just over $50,000 for the prior year, derived from a venture fund called "Harbor Hill Capital," that was closed and seized in 2020 by US federal prosecutors as a "Ponzi Scheme." Santos was the New York Director of that "fund."

Now, in a filing dated September 6th, 2022, Santos claims his assets are now as much as $11 million, including personal bank accounts of between $1 million and $5 million; a Condo in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, of between $500,000 and $1 million; and business interests of between $1 million and $5 million. Santos parents were from Brazil, according to Santos, and he has claimed to be a US-Brazilian dual citizen.

Interestingly, Santos shows no US real property in his financial disclosure, although he has repeatedly claimed to own "a mansion in Oyster Bay Cove" on Tiffany Road; and "a mansion in the Hamptons" on Dune Road. He recently told several Republicans that he was selling his "Hamptons mansion" for $10 million, because he rarely uses it.

However an investigation of Santos' alleged "Hamptons mansion" showed the house is owned by someone else having nothing to do with Santos, and.has a market value of less than $2 million.

For a man of such alleged wealth, campaign records show that Santos and his husband live in a rented apartment, in an attached row house in Queens. (See photo)

Santos drives a Nissan, for which he took out a car loan of between $20,000 and $50,000, according to the disclosures.


Candidates for US Congress are required to file a full and truthful Financial Disclosure with the Clerk of the US House of Representatives, under the Ethics in Government Act. The trigger for filing is raising $5,000 in campaign funds, which deadline Santos passed 20 months ago, in January, 2021.


Santos claims to have "loaned" his campaign some $600,000.00 - which was reported in his US Federal Election Commission filings earlier in 2022. However the $600,000 "loan" does not show-up in his newly-filed 2022 personal financial disclosure.


Santos disclosures also state that he earned "nothing" - no income - over the past year.
It is a federal felony to make false filings in federal disclosures.

Under Brazilian Decree-Law No. 394 of April 28, 1938, and under Article V of the Constitution of Brazil, "no Brazilian national may be extradited" to any foreign country for crimes charged in that foreign country.

"Are we are being played as extras in 'The Talented Mr Santos' ?" asked one Republican leader
 
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