White House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings

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White House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings - The Washington Post


The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.


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What some pro-gun lawmakers are saying after Newtown: In the aftermath of the shooting, a number of NRA-supported legislators have come out in support of new gun laws or signaled a willingness to budge. Here’s who said what.



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To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda.

The Biden group, formed last month after the massacre at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that killed 20 children and six adults, plans to submit a package of recommendations to President Obama this month. Once Obama’s proposals are set, he plans to lead a public-relations offensive to generate popular support.

“They are very clearly committed to looking at this issue comprehensively,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, who has been involved in the discussions. The proposals under consideration, he added, are “a deeper exploration than just the assault-weapons ban.”

The gun-control push is just one part of an ambitious political agenda that Obama has pledged to pursue after his decisive reelection victory in November, including comprehensive immigration reform, climate-change legislation and long-term deficit reduction. Obama also faces a reshuffling of his Cabinet, and a looming debate over the nation’s debt ceiling that will compete for his time and attention in the coming months.

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Thank God these guys are seeing that they have to go ONE STEP FURTHER ahead of the Brady Bill, and realize that the bill they are about to do would not have done enough.

Barry about to get that 2nd championship ring and gonna follow up with the third championship ring with the Dream Act in a short time back to back. Then possibly could it be....perhaps a 4th ring with climate change :whew:



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alot of white people would probably go bat shyt crazy. alex jones would probably flip his lid.

im not really sure where i stand on the whole issue growing up in a gun culture state. i know arizona wouldnt go along peacefully.
 

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alot of white people would probably go bat shyt crazy. alex jones would probably flip his lid.

im not really sure where i stand on the whole issue growing up in a gun culture state. i know arizona wouldnt go along peacefully.

Of course alot of them would start bytching talking about it goes too far but they were also saying assault weapon ban goes to far.

Its like is their anything they do support? If they take guns as seriously as they do cars, why not have similar requirements for owning one. If they want to treat guns as something they have to have like cars, why not be able to endure having strict guidelines if you know you could possibly save people's lives.

They say banning strictly does not work and they may be right about that.......so the white House is going further and we all know they are going to still find an issue to stop Barry from getting that second ring.

I don't get what is with the bytching they do for everything that is suppose to be safe

I heard some dumbass the other day say that one of the thing he does not like about Obamacare is the fact that it includes young people also and i quote

"Why do young people need health care.....they are healthy already"

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I just hope Obama stands firm with Biden on this and DOES NOT CAVE or compromise
 

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I think this is great. I believe in gun CONTROL not ban. They are 2 different things. After the Colorado movie theater incident we had some self evaluation to do but after the murdering of those children......something needs to be done. I've just about had it with how easy it is.

Did you know the day of the shoot out here in China we had a man mimic the act by going to a school and stabbing some kids [you can't find guns here even the cops keep them in the trunk and not on them]. Guess how many kids died? Zero.

Also if you kill someone you get the death penalty. guess how many murders my city has had....
...1 in 10 years.

I wonder what a large city like shanghai is compared to nyc.

We need to evolve as a culture. and we are capable as Americans to do it. its not like our history isn't the definition of progression.
 

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alot of white people would probably go bat shyt crazy. alex jones would probably flip his lid.

im not really sure where i stand on the whole issue growing up in a gun culture state. i know arizona wouldnt go along peacefully.

I think a lot of em woke the fukk up after the election

Look how Fox ratings dropped... these motherfukkers are thinking and reevaluating now

AZ and TX prob will not go out w/o a fight but they are just 2 states... known for their insanity

O needs to get the fiscal shyt in order if he really wants to cement his legacy though... we are surviving for now but that is a big issue
 

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alot of white people would probably go bat shyt crazy. alex jones would probably flip his lid.

im not really sure where i stand on the whole issue growing up in a gun culture state. i know arizona wouldnt go along peacefully.

meh. I think people like to make noise, but when it comes to actually breaking the law, they ain't about that life
 

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I think this is great. I believe in gun CONTROL not ban. They are 2 different things. After the Colorado movie theater incident we had some self evaluation to do but after the murdering of those children......something needs to be done. I've just about had it with how easy it is.

Did you know the day of the shoot out here in China we had a man mimic the act by going to a school and stabbing some kids [you can't find guns here even the cops keep them in the trunk and not on them]. Guess how many kids died? Zero.

Also if you kill someone you get the death penalty. guess how many murders my city has had....
...1 in 10 years.

I wonder what a large city like shanghai is compared to nyc.

We need to evolve as a culture. and we are capable as Americans to do it. its not like our history isn't the definition of progression.

Lets hope Obama does not come back down from this and make Joe Biden's hard work be in vain. I hope he is able to multi task with both this and immigration(remember he said he would be doing the rallying this month) without fukking up on either one because its "too much for him".

I am counting on O this time I really hope he proves me right.

Another thing I would like to say before someone brings up the "drug war". We know it takes multiple factors but something like this needs to be signed in the meantime and even Obama admitted there are other factors.

Even though it is to be expected, I still can't believe Arizona and Texas are going to embarrassing themselves and most likely riot against this plan. These clowns just don't learn :stopitslime:

@ She Agree That I'm Looney I don't think fiscal cliffs and debt cielings make legacies for presidents. Not saying it is not important; But the heavy legacy building is signing this good idea of gun reform that Biden is promoting, Dream Act, and climate change.
 

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its getting out of control, yesterday , some dude in the same town of aurora bat man shooting, some dude just popped 4 people b4 the cops popped him

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My friend used to intern in the WH and knows some people still there, it doesn't seem like Obama and Biden will back down on this one. And to add.

The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade.

While the fiscal cliff has dominated Washington’s attention in recent weeks, lawmakers and activists are laying the groundwork for their big push. Vice President Joe Biden, tasked with heading a commission to investigate gun violence, has been quietly meeting with experts, interest groups, and public officials and is expected to release a set of recommendations within weeks. Boston mayor Thomas Menino, co-chair of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told the Boston Herald this week that an optimistic Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”

“We had been led to believe their report would come by end of January, but we’re hearing they may want to have something out by January 15, even quicker than expected,” Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told TPM.

House Democrats are moving ahead with their own plans as well. On Friday, Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA), chair of the newly created Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, announced the appointment of 12 vice chairs, including Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), the body’s leading voice on gun control. According to a Democratic aide, the group plans to release its recommendations in early February and is already organizing public hearings on the issue.

Obama has personally identified an assault weapons ban and limits on ammunition magazine size as top priorities. Other possible reforms could include background check requirements for purchases at gun shows, a loophole that’s helped create a huge market of off-record arms purchases.

Pro-gun groups have dominated Congress in recent years and, while lawmakers approved by the National Rifle Association have mostly kept their heads down in recent weeks, any legislation could face an difficult path to passage, or even a vote, especially in the Republican-led House.

Glaze said his group would work hard to build public support, hosting local events with various mayors, dozens of whom will descend on Washington later this month for The United States Conference of Mayors winter gathering.

Gun violence survivors are also planning trips to lobby lawmakers to support legislation. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords, who survived a mass shooting in 2011, could play a prominent role in that regard: on Wednesday she met with Bloomberg in New York and on Friday traveled to Newtown to comfort families who lost loved ones in the attack there.

But Glaze acknowledged the NRA has long held an advantage not only in its cash resources, but in its large and active grassroots membership, which has rallied in the past to whip members of Congress against gun control bills. For gun control advocates, they’ll have to offer a compelling case that lawmakers who squelch reforms will pay a price in the midterm elections and that means building their own active network of supporters. Glaze is confident they can do so, citing recent polls showing restrictions on extended ammunition clips and an expansion of background checks to be popular nationally.

“The broad solutions are there and if Congress doesn’t act I think theyre going to be digging themselves further into a big hole,” he said.

The Brady Campaign, the gun control group founded by former Ronald Reagan press secretary Jim Brady, is also expected to play a role in promoting legislation, but it’s an open question whether they can compete with the NRA’s experienced leadership. TPM reached out to the group’s staff in recent days for information on its plans, but received no response.


Benjy Sarlin is a reporter for Talking Points Memo and co-writes the campaign blog, TPM2012. He previously reported for The Daily Beast/Newsweek as their Washington Correspondent and covered local politics for the New York Sun.
 

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Talk is cheap. Once I see some legislation on the table I might be impressed, but until then :snooze:
 

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These clowns in the comments section of the NYPOST are just hopeless and cannot be saved. This one guy just used the same annoying argument about ex dictators from the past and how they were anti-gun and therefore Obama is like them.

And said to check the 1938 Man of the Year(Hitler) and 2012 Man of the Year(Obama)

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