while Democrats dream. Reality-based Republicans try to save Roe v. Wade

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Hopefully the SC doesn't knock down Roe v. Wade, but...

If Supreme Court overturns Roe v.

The Reproductive Choice Act would codify Roe in federal law and prohibit “undue burdens” on people seeking abortions, but unlike the Women’s Health Protection Act undue burdens are undefined and the law specifically allows states to enact some kinds of restrictions, again undefined.

In other words, the Reproductive Choice Act would appear to maintain the status quo: preserve Roe like Democrats want, while permitting some state restrictions like Republicans want.

It was introduced in the Senate on February 28 as S. 3713, by Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) alongside Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK).

Congressional Democrats tried with the Women’s Health Protection Act.

The legislation would have codified Roe into federal law, but also added additional measures beyond current Supreme Court precedents. Provisions included prohibitions on waiting periods, specific medical tests in advance, and limits on dispensing medication abortions in person or by telemedicine.

Last September it passed the House 218–211 on a party line vote, with Republicans unanimously opposing and Democrats almost completely supporting it 218–1. Among House Democrats, only Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX28) opposed, citing his Catholicism.

After passing the House, in February the bill failed cloture in the Senate by 46–48. Similar to the House vote, Republicans were unanimously opposed while all Democrats voted in favor except Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV).

Two of the most centrist Senate Republicans, who both voted against it, have now introduced a compromise bill instead.​




That's a big difference in how the parties govern. Democrats let the perfect get in the way of the good. I could see them pushing through whatever they wanted if they had enough control of Congress. But you know you don't. Why even present shyt that's going to get 0 votes from the other side? I guess it's good to get them on record, but this is an issue where we already know where Republicans stand.
 
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To add to this, the very suggestion that democrats don’t constantly compromise despite dealing with a group that haven’t negotiated in good faith for almost 30 plus years isn’t just insulting to the intelligence of anyone paying attention it’s a complete fukking lie
 
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*pounding the table furiously*

“WE MUST FIND MIDDLE GROUND WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND FASCISTS!!!! Why won’t you guys just try and work with them??????”
Its baked into the system:yeshrug:
Nothing gets done without white supremacist signing off.



If you are suggesting tearing down the government, im with you.
 

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what do their voters want, then?

To own the libs.

Republicans are going to vote against anything proposed by Dems simply because it was proposed by a Democrat.


So I don't see how it's fair to blame Dems for not proposing legislation that the GOP would support when they'll only support Republican bills.



At this point I almost think Dems should just let the SC overturn Roe v. Wade and let Republicans take the blame. :yeshrug:
 

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To own the libs.

Republicans are going to vote against anything proposed by Dems simply because it was proposed by a Democrat.


So I don't see how it's fair to blame Dems for not proposing legislation that the GOP would support when they'll only support Republican bills.



At this point I almost think Dems should just let the SC overturn Roe v. Wade and let Republicans take the blame. :yeshrug:

The Dems have no say on what the SC does...they just gotta live with the results.

My point of contention with the Dems is that they propose things that only they would support.

If you want to protect Roe, why didn't they come up with this Murkowski bill instead of something they know for a fact is untenable?

Unless of course they're in cahoots with her and purposely proposed something that wouldn't pass so she could propose something that would
 

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i'm lost, what is the republican proposal? letting states come up with restrictions that actually are undue burdens? :dahell:
The proposal is to protect Roe v Wade as is against whatever the Supreme Court comes up with.

Dems plan is to expand abortion rights, but it's not politically possible.

So, if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade this year, we're all fukked
 

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The Dems have no say on what the SC does...they just gotta live with the results.

My point of contention with the Dems is that they propose things that only they would support.

If you want to protect Roe, why didn't they come up with this Murkowski bill instead of something they know for a fact is untenable?

Unless of course they're in cahoots with her and purposely proposed something that wouldn't pass so she could propose something that would

You're missing my point. :snoop:

Republicans are only supporting it because it was prpposed by a Republican. If a Dem had proposed the same bill they would reject it.


Yes, the Senate is that petty.
 
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