I have been off grid for a few weeks now & it seems there’s tension in that axis.
What’s the background story?
What’s the background story?
What’s going on between Ethiopia, Somaliland & Somalia?
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Somaliland struck a deal w/ the Ethiopian govt to lease ~20 miles of shoreline to Ethiopia for economic shipping purposes and so Ethiopia can build a navy. Somalia considered this a breach on their sovereignty since they consider Somaliland a part of Somalia.
We are discussing in HOA thread.
We are discussing in HOA thread.
Thanks, bruddah.
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Just a conflict over self-determination, a bunch more of these situations will pop up all over the world (especially in Africa) over the next couple decades.
Walahi brehs
The BasedFather
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Bunch of big foreheads and “I am the captain” brehs warring 
desjardins
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I just watched this yesterday
dude was just in eritrea too. Don't expect him to speak on anything he didn't mention anything about eritrea's political situation, shyt looked like a wacker Cuba
dude was just in eritrea too. Don't expect him to speak on anything he didn't mention anything about eritrea's political situation, shyt looked like a wacker Cuba
DANKTHRONE
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Edit: Asked in another thread instead
RadaMillz
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Religion, Resources and Race are the main criteria for achieving recognition.
South Sudan is Christian, has oil and racially distinct from the 'Arab' north
Somaliland is made up of mainly 1 out of the many Somali clans and has no proven resources so far.
The fear is if the world recognizes Somaliland, it will have a domino effect. Almost every country in Africa has a region that wants to secede.
I think he caught some flak when he mentioned politics in some of the other countries he's been to. Not even taking a side.
Not worth the drama to play tourist and geo-political analyst.
South Sudan is Black anti slavery c00ns and actually likes being African.
the issue with Somaliland is not reflective of any other part of Africa nor does it set a premise for other regions. It's just part of the ongoing Saga of Somalia.
Long story short, Somaliland wants recognition, Ethiopia’s PM is using the country’s diplomatic clout as a way to finesse a military/commercial port to gain political points due to the fukked up situation in the country currently (growing rebellions, rise in crime and violence, lack of housing/jobs), and Somalia doesn’t recognize Somaliland and so Ethiopia cutting side deals is a flagrant breach of their sovereignty by the standards of international law.
All Abiy needed to do was cut these types of deals with internationally recognized governments rather than a breakaway state and none of this would be going on. But all of these countries are supposed to be fukked up and in chaos by design imo. Just like the rest of Africa.
All Abiy needed to do was cut these types of deals with internationally recognized governments rather than a breakaway state and none of this would be going on. But all of these countries are supposed to be fukked up and in chaos by design imo. Just like the rest of Africa.
Ethiopia and Somalia reach deal in Turkey to end Somaliland port feud
Ethiopia's deal to build a port in Somaliland had infuriated Somalia, prompting fears of wider conflict.
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Ethiopia and Somalia agree to end bitter Somaliland port feud
9 hours ago
Kalkidan Yibeltal in Addis Ababa & Basillioh Rukanga in Nairobi
BBC News
Reuters Turkish President Erdogan (centre) holds hands with Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud (right) and Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed (left) - all in suits and ties - posing for the cameras after a press conference in Ankara, Turkey - 11 December 2024Reuters
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan (C) said the agreement was "the first step towards a new beginning"
Ethiopia and Somalia have agreed to end their bitter dispute over Addis Ababa's plans to build a port in the breakaway republic of Somaliland following talks in Turkey.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan welcomed the "historic agreement", which he said would eventually ensure landlocked Ethiopia's access to the sea.
At the press conference he held hands with Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed and Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, who both agreed to respect one another's "sovereignty".
The two neighbours have been at loggerheads since January when Ethiopia signed a maritime deal with Somaliland - which Somalia considers as part of its territory.
It prompted fears of a wider regional conflict as Egypt has been backing Somalia - largely due to its anger with Ethiopia for building a dam on the River Nile.
Turkey has in recent years become an important geopolitical player in the Horn of Africa as it has close economic ties with Addis Ababa and security deals with Mogadishu.
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Erdogan said the agreement - announced on Wednesday night in the Turkish capital, Ankara - was "the first step towards a new beginning".
"I congratulate both my brothers for reaching to this historic reconciliation with devotion and thank them for their constructive attitude," he said.
President Mohamud said his country was "ready to work with the Ethiopian leadership and the Ethiopian people".
While Prime Minister Abiy insisted Ethiopia's efforts to secure and reliable access to the sea did not threaten Somalia and the two had "addressed the misunderstandings that have occurred over the past year".
The feud began on New Year's Day, when Abiy signed a controversial deal with Somaliland to lease a 20km (12-mile) section of its coastline for 50 years to set up a naval base.
In exchange, Ethiopia - the world's most-populous landlocked nation - was to reportedly recognise Somaliland as an independent country, although Addis Ababa never explicitly confirmed this.
Somaliland, which broke away from Somalia more than 30 years ago, has long been pushing for recognition - but Mogadishu described the move as an act of "aggression".
According to the Ankara joint declaration, the two Horn of Africa neighbours are to reconvene in February to hold "technical talks".
In the interim they will strive to reach "mutually beneficial commercial arrangements" to ensure Ethiopia gains access to the sea "under Somalia's sovereignty".
It is not clear if Ethiopia has discarded the deal it signed with Somaliland - something demanded by Somalia at earlier mediation efforts.
Last month, Somaliland elected a new president - former opposition leader Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi - who promised to "review" the maritime deal.
During his inauguration speech on Thursday morning he made no mention of it.
Somaliland is located in a strategic part of the world, and is seen as a gateway to the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea.
Additional reporting by Bidhaan Dahir in Hargeisa.