What the Rich Won’t Tell You

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"There’s nobody who knows how much we spend. You’re the only person I ever said those numbers to out loud.”

By RACHEL SHERMAN
SEPTEMBER 8, 2017

Over lunch in a downtown restaurant, Beatrice, a New Yorker in her late 30s, told me about two decisions she and her husband were considering. They were thinking about where to buy a second home and whether their young children should go to private school. Then she made a confession: She took the price tags off her clothes so that her nanny would not see them. “I take the label off our six-dollar bread,” she said.

She did this, she explained, because she was uncomfortable with the inequality between herself and her nanny, a Latina immigrant. She had a household income of $250,000 and inherited wealth of several million dollars. Relative to the nanny, she told me, “The choices that I have are obscene. Six-dollar bread is obscene.”

An interior designer I spoke with told me his wealthy clients also hid prices, saying that expensive furniture and other items arrive at their houses “with big price tags on them” that “have to be removed, or Sharpied over, so the housekeepers and staff don’t see them.”

These people agreed to meet with me as part of research I conducted on affluent and wealthy people’s consumption. I interviewed 50 parents with children at home, including 18 stay-at-home mothers. Highly educated, they worked or had worked in finance and related industries, or had inherited assets in the millions of dollars. Nearly all were in the top 1 percent or 2 percent in terms of income or wealth or both. They came from a variety of economic backgrounds, and about 80 percent were white. Reflecting their concern with anonymity and my research protocol, I am using pseudonyms throughout this article.

We often imagine that the wealthy are unconflicted about their advantages and in fact eager to display them. Since Thorstein Veblen coined the term “conspicuous consumption” more than a century ago, the rich have typically been represented as competing for status by showing off their wealth. Our current president is the conspicuous consumer in chief, the epitome of the rich person who displays his wealth in the glitziest way possible.

We often imagine that the wealthy are unconflicted about their advantages and in fact eager to display them. Since Thorstein Veblen coined the term “conspicuous consumption” more than a century ago, the rich have typically been represented as competing for status by showing off their wealth. Our current president is the conspicuous consumer in chief, the epitome of the rich person who displays his wealth in the glitziest way possible.

Yet we believe that wealthy people seek visibility because those we see are, by definition, visible. In contrast, the people I spoke with expressed a deep ambivalence about identifying as affluent. Rather than brag about their money or show it off, they kept quiet about their advantages. They described themselves as “normal” people who worked hard and spent prudently, distancing themselves from common stereotypes of the wealthy as ostentatious, selfish, snobby and entitled. Ultimately, their accounts illuminate a moral stigma of privilege.


The ways these wealthy New Yorkers identify and avoid stigma matter not because we should feel sorry for uncomfortable rich people, but because they tell us something about how economic inequality is hidden, justified and maintained in American life.


Keeping silent about social class, a norm that goes far beyond the affluent, can make Americans feel that class doesn’t, or shouldn’t, matter. And judging wealthy people on the basis of their individual behaviors — do they work hard enough, do they consume reasonably enough, do they give back enough — distracts us from other kinds of questions about the morality of vastly unequal distributions of wealth.

To hide the price tags is not to hide the privilege; the nanny is no doubt aware of the class gap whether or not she knows the price of her employer’s bread. Instead, such moves help wealthy people manage their discomfort with inequality, which in turn makes that inequality impossible to talk honestly about — or to change.



The stigma of wealth showed up in my interviews first in literal silences about money. When I asked one very wealthy stay-at-home mother what her family’s assets were, she was taken aback. “No one’s ever asked me that, honestly,” she said. “No one asks that question. It’s up there with, like, ‘Do you masturbate

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I read this Friday, and I saw a lot of truth in it, from my own life. Through circumstances, my social circle includes many people like this, and while I am not at all from their kind of background, and I barely make enough to hit 6 figures, I am accepted, and liked, respected, in these circles. I am enough of a perceptive and self aware person to see the difference between those who are respected, and those who aren't. It's a very bizarre feeling sometimes, truthfully. With someone like me, they will tell me about the money, and I do ask, to inspire, for curiosity, whatever. But, from the "rest of society" there is very much a sense of concealment, even if it is delusional and ineffective. I mean, you can hide the tag on bread, but not the house you are in. But, it's those numbers that you can SEE that be the ones you care about the most.

The rich are cruel, the people I know, for all their humor, their homes, the genuine friendships I have, and even the kindness I have seen, are savage. There is a cold disconnect in most of them, and I am constantly reminded of Fitzgerald, I have seen many drown, figuratively speaking in their circles.

“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

My heart breaks, I walk outside everyday and see the inequality of maids going to work in condos in downtown San Diego, it's kills me everyday. I've had convos with IG model types, who think like Reagan, with no education, and think they are HELPING the maids, by paying them 10$ an hour. It's truly sick.
 
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Be embarrassed about $6 bread but still pay your nanny like sh*t brehs.
What's funny is that they may really believe that the nanny is that incredulous to their shenanigans.

The rich should be burned alive with all their nice things.
 

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The bulk of the women spouses are in finance or they work in that sector. Really needs to be an investigation in the gross amount of money made and why it's concentrated to a select demographic.
I made a post a while back about how white people I work with try to hide their spending. They were teasing me about having a 2nd vehicle a 15 year old SUV and these dudes are taking 1 month European vacations on the sly

They assume you are poor(<335k annually per household) or one generation away from it if you are Black that you are frivolous with spending per usual. They are being condescending under the guise of good advice.
 
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I made a post a while back about how white people I work with try to hide their spending. They were teasing me about having a 2nd vehicle a 15 year old SUV and these dudes are taking 1 month European vacations on the sly

What's ironic is most households have at least 2 vehicles.. it's a must actually
 

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Lol. That stupid c*nt thinks the maid ain't gonna know what 6 dollar bread looks like.
It's not so much that. It's moreso about not having price tags displayed so it won't ever come up as a topic. . . . I've been around these people for some years, and don't be fooled. I've seen a corporate lawyer that made under $4M be stupid enough to have bills in excess of $100K A MONTH!

These people spend money like its a rap video. There MANY mansions in foreclosure in all states due to this behavior.

Truth is. . . Most people who attain that sort sort of money move in and out of "wealth" during their lifetimes.
 
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