What the NRA Doesn't Want You to Know

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What the NRA Doesn't Want You to Know
March 20, 2014
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Vivek Murthy

Dr. Vivek Murthy is a well-regarded physician and instructor at Harvard Medical School. Like the president he hopes to serve as surgeon general, he supports greater regulation of firearms. That said, the surgeon general has no role in regulating guns, a task that falls to the perennially underfunded and legislatively hobbled Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

So why are the National Rifle Association and its allies in the extreme gun-rights movement so panicked about Murthy? “The surgeon general has the important tasks of providing the American public with information to better inform decisions related to their health and directing much of the federal government’s public health efforts,” says the NRA’s lobbying arm on its website.

The crucial words are “information” and “public health.” The extreme gun-rights movement makes expansive claims about the benefits of gun ownership. Few of these pass even the crudest standards of scholarship. Indeed, many such claims are already bending under the weight of public health research indicating, for example, that gun ownership may be more likely to lead to instances of suicide or homicide than self-defense.
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Better research is needed on the relationship between guns and public health. The NRA, however, cannot abide more research. What if professional, peer-reviewed science exposes many of the gun groups’ claims as nonsense?

Of course, the business of fear mongering can advance even as ignorance recedes. But over the past two decades the NRA has made it abundantly clear that it views quality research as a threat to its agenda.

The politics of guns is often a stage for cowardice. Informed, data-driven discussion of public health has the potential to undermine attempts to spread fear. That’s why the NRA wants that discussion—and President Obama’s surgeon general nominee—muzzled before it gets any further.

From the standpoint of the gun lobby, opposition to Murthy may seem necessary and even rational. From the standpoint of the public good, it’s counterproductive and corrupt.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-20/what-the-nra-doesnt-want-you-to-know#r=read
 
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Are you for or against gun rights, and why? Time to stop believing media and propaganda and think for yourself.
 
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Are you for or against gun rights, and why? Time to stop believing media and propaganda and think for yourself.
The USA has WAY too many guns, on this fact, I support guns in the USA...

There is no point disarming law abiding citizens when the criminals are armed too the teeth, and we know very well, the police's primary job is to clean up murder scenes...Them boys are NEVER around when you need them...

If the USA government can disarm the vast majority of the population, then it would make sense to then instil stronger laws against guns...

Gun violence is part of American culture...You would have to change the culture first, before you start thinking about disarming the population...
 

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i gotta say, im all for citizens having the right to own guns

but at the same time our gun culture is :scusthov: its a pretty fukkin tough debate
 

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The USA has WAY too many guns, on this fact, I support guns in the USA...

There is no point disarming law abiding citizens when the criminals are armed too the teeth, and we know very well, the police's primary job is to clean up murder scenes...Them boys are NEVER around when you need them...

If the USA government can disarm the vast majority of the population, then it would make sense to then instil stronger laws against guns...

Gun violence is part of American culture...You would have to change the culture first, before you start thinking about disarming the population...
Here's my view. The whole "homicide, suicide, AND terrorism" debate is a distraction. I don't know if that's on purpose or not, but regardless.... Murders have happened, murders do happen, and murders will happen. Suicides have happened, suicides do happen, and suicides will happen. I could quote statistics, although I prefer logic in this argument.

The report that Pratt was referring to was discussed in a March 22, 2001 article by Dave Kopel, Dr. Paul Gallant and Dr. Joanne Eisen, entitled “Britain: From Bad to Worse” (cache).

In this article, the authors explained that “the violent crime rate has risen dramatically and steadily since gun bans have been instituted,”

The reason people have a right to bear arms is to protect themselves from..... who? every day people? thieves? rapists? Not really. The ultimate reason for armed citizens is protection from government. It was so important for the writers of the constitution to put that in there because they just got out of an oppressive government, and they wanted to stay out.

But let's not stay in the past. Have the circumstances changed? Well, with the increasing surveillance that people are on, and the increasing force that the government uses to enforce the law, and the increasing amount of laws (some very silly, some not); I say the guns are a necessary evil to maintain balance of power. A great equalizer, if you will. Maybe we will evolve to a different kind of government where these things are not necessary, like a Star Trek world of technological prosperity relative equality.

As of right now, no political powers would fukk with the American populace, unlike they are currently fukking with poor countries in the world where riots have been going on for the past 5 years with no end in sight. Those countries don't have guns like we have guns. They don't want US riots on that level.
 
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They will never take peoples guns away. When will you people realize that?
Which "peoples" are you referring to? Because America is one of the few countries where this hasn't happened. In other countries, outlaws have them still but not many normal citizens, I don't believe.
 
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Its just an easy to get behind liberal crusade. If saving lives were the actual goal, they would be campaigning even harder for a ban on alcohol and tobacco. They both kill more people than guns, as does medical malpractice, cars, and a whole host of things. The state has just done a good job of making disarming the public look righteous.
 

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Its just an easy to get behind liberal crusade. If saving lives were the actual goal, they would be campaigning even harder for a ban on alcohol and tobacco. They both kill more people than guns, as does medical malpractice, cars, and a whole host of things. The state has just done a good job of making disarming the public look righteous.


Very good point about alcohol and tobacco. Mufukkas think theyre slick.
 
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