What Really Happened To DJ Subroc (DOOM's bro)

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I always read that he got into a car accident and died, until I read this:

http://www.rapworlds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93736

Subroc (MF DOOM's brother) from KMD's death in 1994. Cage tells of the last night he spent with him. The last night anyone saw him.

Interviewer: What were you and Subroc doing the last time you saw him alive?

Rage: We had dinner. We went out to a shytty restaurant in New York City. I was living in Greenwich Village at the time, on Great Jones Street by Back in Time Café, which no longer exists. And we went out, ate, came back, smoked a lot of weed, played two games of chess. I won the fist game, he won the next, and on the third game we were so bombed we went to sleep. I woke up at eight in the morning, and he was gone. I called his house, talked to his mother and sister to see if he had gotten home.

Interviewer: Did he drive home?

Rage: No, no. He didn't have a car at that time. Anyway, I called home, asked in they had seen him, and they said, 'naw, naw.' A couple hours later they're calling me up like 'Where's he at?' I said, 'yo, he left. I woke up at eight o'clock in the morning, and he was gone.' And the next thing I know at six o'clock in the evening I get a conference call from Bobbito and Pete Nice telling me, 'Sub's in the hospital, he might not make it through the night.' It shocked me. I know he died because of injuries because he was hit by cars, and I remember hearing he had contusions of the brain which were caused by the accident. Some people said they saw him running into traffic, others say he was chased into traffic. And [the cops] never investigated it. They just closed the case. It was sad. I don't like to open up old wounds. That was a fukked up time. And for a long time people speculated that I had something to do with it. For a good year.

Interviewer: That must have hurt.

Rage: I was just a kid, Sub was my friend. That [point in my life] was a wild ride. I was six months out of the mental hospital, and then I was living out all my rap fantasies. And then one of the friends I had made through the music, whom I had learned a lot from and had been a big fan of since before I met him, just ends up getting killed. And then people are looking at you like, 'well, you were the last person with him.' I found out that fact through Daniel. I didn't know DOOM very well back then, but after Sub died we started talking, and he'd be like, 'oh, my brother used to talk about you all the time, Cage this, Cage that.' Then somewhere down the line DOOM and I went separate ways.
 

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Cage conveniently left out the part where they were allegedly both doing angel dust. It's absurdly easy to tell which artists smoke a lot of dust, just by listening to their music. Cage seems like he used to do a lot of dust. That's why people were pointing fingers at him.
Somewhere between the first KMD album and the recording of the 2nd, I think those brothers started fukking with dust.

Unrelated, but related... Killa Black smoked dust before he committed suicide. People who knew him said it wasn't his thing, that's why he reacted so dramatically to it.
 

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Cage conveniently left out the part where they were allegedly both doing angel dust. It's absurdly easy to tell which artists smoke a lot of dust, just by listening to their music. Cage seems like he used to do a lot of dust. That's why people were pointing fingers at him.
Somewhere between the first KMD album and the recording of the 2nd, I think those brothers started fukking with dust.

Unrelated, but related... Killa Black smoked dust before he committed suicide. People who knew him said it wasn't his thing, that's why he reacted so dramatically to it.
Leak Bros
 

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Good look brehs, makes a lot of sense. His behaviour would explain taking dust.
 

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I just found this interview with Pete Nice talking about Subroc's behaviour

DJ Subroc | Old To The New - Ryan Proctor's Beats, Rhymes & Hip-Hop Nostalgia

How much of an impact did Subroc’s tragic passing in 1993 have on you?

“I think the point when Subroc passed away was a real turning point. I mean, I had KMD with Serch, we were their managers, they came in as basically like this innocent group of devout Muslim artists who were very young. Then they got a little older, started to get their own identities, then next thing you know they’re drinking forties and poppin’ acid all over the place. I had Subroc come to my office several times with a machete in his coat and I’d be like, ‘You’ve gotta calm down, man.’ I remember he came to the office one time, I hit him off with an advance for one of their records or whatever, and I figured I had to drive him to the Long Island Railroad so that I knew I’m getting him on the train and he’s not going to get into any trouble. So I’m driving him to the station and he’s asking me how much dynamite it would take to blow up the railroad station in his town in Long Beach?! He was definitely experimenting with drugs and s**t and it was very hard to keep tabs and keep control on the artists that I was dealing with. Then when Subroc actually died it was just such a shock, even though in some ways you could see it coming, y’know. It was just very disconcerting all around.”
 

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I just found this interview with Pete Nice talking about Subroc's behaviour

DJ Subroc | Old To The New - Ryan Proctor's Beats, Rhymes & Hip-Hop Nostalgia

How much of an impact did Subroc’s tragic passing in 1993 have on you?

“I think the point when Subroc passed away was a real turning point. I mean, I had KMD with Serch, we were their managers, they came in as basically like this innocent group of devout Muslim artists who were very young. Then they got a little older, started to get their own identities, then next thing you know they’re drinking forties and poppin’ acid all over the place. I had Subroc come to my office several times with a machete in his coat and I’d be like, ‘You’ve gotta calm down, man.’ I remember he came to the office one time, I hit him off with an advance for one of their records or whatever, and I figured I had to drive him to the Long Island Railroad so that I knew I’m getting him on the train and he’s not going to get into any trouble. So I’m driving him to the station and he’s asking me how much dynamite it would take to blow up the railroad station in his town in Long Beach?! He was definitely experimenting with drugs and s**t and it was very hard to keep tabs and keep control on the artists that I was dealing with. Then when Subroc actually died it was just such a shock, even though in some ways you could see it coming, y’know. It was just very disconcerting all around.”
This explains why they went from the playful , kind of Tribe sound on “Mr. Hood” to the more aggressive sound on “Black b*stards”. Kind of like night and day
 

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got hit crossing the Long Island Expressway. beyond that, no one really knows what happened

I always wanted to hear the shyt he was working on with Cage

RIP

 

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I just found this interview with Pete Nice talking about Subroc's behaviour

DJ Subroc | Old To The New - Ryan Proctor's Beats, Rhymes & Hip-Hop Nostalgia

How much of an impact did Subroc’s tragic passing in 1993 have on you?

“I think the point when Subroc passed away was a real turning point. I mean, I had KMD with Serch, we were their managers, they came in as basically like this innocent group of devout Muslim artists who were very young. Then they got a little older, started to get their own identities, then next thing you know they’re drinking forties and poppin’ acid all over the place. I had Subroc come to my office several times with a machete in his coat and I’d be like, ‘You’ve gotta calm down, man.’ I remember he came to the office one time, I hit him off with an advance for one of their records or whatever, and I figured I had to drive him to the Long Island Railroad so that I knew I’m getting him on the train and he’s not going to get into any trouble. So I’m driving him to the station and he’s asking me how much dynamite it would take to blow up the railroad station in his town in Long Beach?! He was definitely experimenting with drugs and s**t and it was very hard to keep tabs and keep control on the artists that I was dealing with. Then when Subroc actually died it was just such a shock, even though in some ways you could see it coming, y’know. It was just very disconcerting all around.”

So :sad:

My cousin went from smoking weed to dust and water in 03'. Dude hasn't been the same since.
 

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So :sad:

My cousin went from smoking weed to dust and water in 03'. Dude hasn't been the same since.
yeah thats some scary shyt. not every person who smokes dust gets to become The RZA or some shyt...and hopefully you dont become Big Lurch...that shyt can really take your mind to a point it cannot come back from.
 
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