West coast Kam is one of the most underrated rappers ever

[FunkyFresh]

Just about to post this. Classic Quik beat.

Pull Ya Hoe Card is one of my favourite beats ever Aswell.

I need to check out Kams latest album. He was at that recent peace treaty with Snoop also

 

[FreshAIG]

...and y'all got to let that perspective go. That's the same chit that killed the game - rappers thinkin'
all the power is with the labels, but the labels don't rap. They can't do chit without the music.

Word to 40 - "if nobody won't sign you, YOU sign you"...the difference is that 40 will drop double the albums
in 2 years than Kam has dropped in 20.

Yeah now but in the 90s, you needed a major label push. Almost no indie artists at the time were big stars nationally. Yeah they might have been making a lot of bread but I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about exposure. Kam never got that.

 

[Taadow]

Yeah now but in the 90s, you needed a major label push. Almost no indie artists at the time were big stars nationally. Yeah they might have been making a lot of bread but I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about exposure. Kam never got that.

You can't be serious, Bruh.

like I said - Kam had plenty of "exposure". He was known by niccas.

 

[Taadow]

Kam is dope I think I really started paying attention to him after him and Cube were featured on Erick Sermons first solo

@FreshAIG this was gonna be in my next post here.

 

[FreshAIG]

You can't be serious, Bruh.

like I said - Kam had plenty of "exposure". He was known by niccas.

You're from the West bro, trust me, in NY nobody knew Kam like that. At all. I'm not saying he didn't have songs playing but he wasn't a known commodity on the east coast.

 

[Taadow]

You're from the West bro, trust me, in NY nobody knew Kam like that. At all. I'm not saying he didn't have songs playing but he wasn't a known commodity on the east coast.

So you expect me to believe nobody on the East Coast...

- heard Death Certificate?
- heard Erick Sermon's solo album, the first album he did after the EPMD break-up?
- heard "Peace Treaty" which was the #3 rap song in the country at one point?
- listened to the Friday soundtrack?
- listened to "Whoomp Whoomp"?

That's what you expect me to believe?

 

[FreshAIG]

So you expect me to believe nobody on the East Coast...

- heard Death Certificate?
- heard Erick Sermon's solo album, the first album he did after the EPMD break-up?
- heard "Peace Treaty" which was the #3 rap song in the country at one point?
- listened to the Friday soundtrack?
- listened to "Whoomp Whoomp"?

That's what you expect me to believe?

You're not quite understanding. Listening to a song doesn't mean you know the guy. Come on bro. Majority of people are not like us. Rap isn't that deep to them. They hear songs more than full albums. They might hear a verse but they're not so invested they know the artists. If you said "The rapper Kam" to the average NY niigga back then or now, they'll think your talking about Cam'ron or have no idea who you mean. Of all the songs you listed, only one that MIGHT trigger the average older rap fans memory is "Peace Treaty"

Tragedy Khadafi had a number 1 song on billboard, I don't expect people in the West Coast knew him like that. The 90s was much much more regional. Being on a soundtrack and couple of albums aren't major exposure. I'm talking about being all over TV constantly, having ads all over rap magazines, being on billboards, constantly on the radio and TV rap shows. Kam didn't have that. That's REAL exposure.

Malik from Illegal is on Doggystyle, Warren G's debut, Dogg Food etc, that's not major exposure. That's just being a feature on non-Single album cut. The only gets you but so much.

 

[Taadow]

You're not quite understanding. Listening to a song doesn't mean you know the guy. Come on bro. Majority of people are not like us. Rap isn't that deep to them. They hear songs more than full albums. They might hear a verse but they're not so invested they know the artists. If you said "The rapper Kam" to the average NY niigga back then or now, they'll think your talking about Cam'ron or have no idea who you mean. Of all the songs you listed, only one that MIGHT trigger the average older rap fans memory is "Peace Treaty"

"Listening to a song doesn't mean you know the guy"...how about 6 songs? lol

Tragedy Khadafi had a number 1 song on billboard, I don't expect people in the West Coast knew him like that. The 90s was much much more regional. Being on a soundtrack and couple of albums aren't major exposure. I'm talking about being all over TV constantly, having ads all over rap magazines, being on billboards, constantly on the radio and TV rap shows. Kam didn't have that. That's REAL exposure.

But...on the West we did know Tragedy...we just know him as "The Intelligent Hoodlum". How?

Because we knew that #1 song your talkin' about, and Fresh Prince dropped his name on national TV.
That's major exposure, mayne.

Malik from Illegal is on Doggystyle, Warren G's debut, Dogg Food etc, that's not major exposure. That's just being a feature on non-Single album cut. The only gets you but so much.

lol Malik from Illegal was also FROM ILLEGAL!
That's how we knew him...

...and he was on Too $hort's album, was signed with E-40 and them, and had arguably the best verse on a major R&B single.
That gets you plenty, we knew him.

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

Dude is crazy underrated, I know he fukked with Snoop for a while and was in that "War Zone" group with Goldie Loc & MC Eiht but still his career never really took off commercially.
Shame actually...

 

[FreshAIG]

"Listening to a song doesn't mean you know the guy"...how about 6 songs? lol




But...on the West we did know Tragedy...we just know him as "The Intelligent Hoodlum". How?

Because we knew that #1 song your talkin' about, and Fresh Prince dropped his name on national TV.
That's major exposure, mayne.



lol Malik from Illegal was also FROM ILLEGAL!
That's how we knew him...

...and he was on Too $hort's album, was signed with E-40 and them, and had arguably the best verse on a major R&B single.
That gets you plenty, we knew him.

You think the average rap fan heard all those songs and albums? They didn't. Peace Treaty is literally the only songs of those 6 you listed that got him much exposure. Again, ask the average NY fan who knew about Kam in the mid 90s, some might not admit to it, but they didn't.

Illegal wasn't even that poppin then, they weren't known like that. Another kid group that was pretty much an afterthought.

I find it hard to believe Tragedy was that know in the West then but I'll take your word for it. I just know how rap was then, it was super regional. Having some crossover songs with niiggas from the other coast on album cuts isn't major exposure. It's not zero exposure but it's really not what you're making it out to be. Trust me.

 

[Taadow]

You think the average rap fan heard all those songs and albums? They didn't. Peace Treaty is literally the only songs of those 6 you listed that got him much exposure. Again, ask the average NY fan who knew about Kam in the mid 90s, some might not admit to it, but they didn't.

I don't believe they didn't hear ALL of those songs but one if they were rap fans.

Illegal wasn't even that poppin then, they weren't known like that. Another kid group that was pretty much an afterthought.

What about that other chit?
If you was a rap fan, you knew who Illegal was, you heard Snoop album, you heard G-Funk Era, and knew that Monica song he was on.

I find it hard to believe Tragedy was that know in the West then but I'll take your word for it. I just know how rap was then, it was super regional. Having some crossover songs with niiggas from the other coast on album cuts isn't major exposure. It's not zero exposure but it's really not what you're making it out to be. Trust me.

...and just what am I "making it out to be"?

 

[FreshAIG]

I don't believe they didn't hear ALL of those songs but one if they were rap fans.



What about that other chit?
If you was a rap fan, you knew who Illegal was, you heard Snoop album, you heard G-Funk Era, and knew that Monica song he was on.



...and just what am I "making it out to be"?

You're saying he had a shot and major exposure. I don't think being on album cuts of albums that weren't major sellers isn't major exposure. Those songs weren't even singles. (Besides Peace Treaty, which was a big song then, I'll give you that) You make it seem like he was on "G Thang" or something. But this topic is an aside to the main point of this thread. So whatever.

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Kam and Pooh are one of my all time favorite rapper/producer combos. Flames.

 

[ManBearPig]

Sickinnahead > Kam

 

[ChaddyLack]

he never got his just due. He was a dope lyricist, dope content and made some really good music. I know politics can ruin careers, I just wish he got a real chance.

I still listen to the album he dropped in '94 regularly. Trust Nobody, In Traffic, and Keep The Peace are classics.