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was hitler :snoop: when japan declared war on the US?

did hitler want it with the US, or do you think he was he angry when japan awoke the sleeping giant?
 
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Ask him. Magical thinking is still king in the US.
 

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now that i think about it, it may have made more sense for the Japanese to attack Russia from the east while Germany got them from the west and waited to attack the U.S. after Russia was taken care of.
if i'm not mistaken it was Russia's reinforcements from the east around Siberia that ultimately saved their ass. those eastern reinforcements could have been nullified if the Japanese came at them.


on the other side however, Japan was being starved out of natural resources by the U.S.
scrap metal, steel in particular was no longer being sent to Japan and they needed it badly.
 

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now that i think about it, it may have made more sense for the Japanese to attack Russia from the east while Germany got them from the west and waited to attack the U.S. after Russia was taken care of.
if i'm not mistaken it was Russia's reinforcements from the east around Siberia that ultimately saved their ass. those eastern reinforcements could have been nullified if the Japanese came at them.


on the other side however, Japan was being starved out of natural resources by the U.S.
scrap metal, steel in particular was no longer being sent to Japan and they needed it badly
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From what I've read...

Both strategies were considered, but like you said the resources from the southern strategy that they eventually pursued was a top priority. Also, if they had taken out the US aircraft carriers at Pearl Harbor, as they intended, they would have had more time to fortify their position. Probably would have just prolonged the inevitable, though
 

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From what I've read...

Both strategies were considered, but like you said the resources from the southern strategy that they eventually pursued was a top priority. Also, if they had taken out the US aircraft carriers at Pearl Harbor, as they intended, they would have had more time to fortify their position. Probably would have just prolonged the inevitable, though

yeah, that quote from the Japanese admiral about waking a sleeping giant is so true.
he knew there was no way to compete with America's potential wartime production.
this proved to be especially true on the ground in Germany.
even though the German tanks were superior we just had way more.

i remember a history teacher of mine saying that a German tank could take out 14 U.S. tanks...but then there was always a 15th tank that would get him.
 
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Sanctions were an act of War. Japan never started the war unless provoked. Hitler cared-less because he had U.S. investors on his side.
 

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was hitler :snoop: when japan declared war on the US?

did hitler want it with the US, or do you think he was he angry when japan awoke the sleeping giant?
no his mistake was to fight a war on two fronts.
Sanctions were an act of War. Japan never started the war unless provoked. Hitler cared-less because he had U.S. investors on his side.
Didn't those same investors got in bed with those same jews hitler was persecuting after the war?? thats some :demonic: shyt.
 

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"Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt. It took the entire Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German revolution, and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers."
- Quote taken from Sheldon Emry's 1984 Book: 'Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People'
 
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