Voynich Manuscript

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"...the Voynich Manuscript is a detailed 240-page book written in a language or script that is completely unknown. Its pages are also filled with colorful drawings of strange diagrams, odd events and plants that do not seem to match any known species, adding to the intrigue of the document and the difficulty of deciphering it."
People have tried cracking the code of this book for long time and no one can do decipher it. The language doesn't make sense. The characters are like nothing anybody has ever seen.

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Some say that this book is some type of hoax because it was not uncommon for that era, in the 15th century.

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The book had some latin inside of it but that was the only language known. I believe that this was a manuscript rewritten from centuries wayyy before.
 

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Many people have been said to have studied it and came to the conclusion that it is a real language, especially since it conforms to Zipf's Law.
 

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imma have to come back to this thread and 8 (build/destroy) on it a bit.
 

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i enjoy threads like this

more on the zipf law for those that are unaware:

In 1935 Zipf described a number of relationships in texts that he suggested were due to a "principle of least effort" in the use of language. He showed that in normal writing the frequency of a particular word is inversely proportional to its rank, once all the words have been sorted by decreasing frequency. Secondly that the number of infrequent words is inversely proportional to their frequency and finally that the number of syllables is inversely proportional to the frequency of use of a word. The first (and most important) characteristic is present in the Voynich manuscript text, as shown in Figure 3. The first Zipf law is represented by a straight line with a slope of -1. The characteristic small deviation from this line found in natural languages is also observed for the Voynich manuscript language.


A rank-frequency (Zipf's plot) of several texts: voynich (Friedman's first study group transcription), roget (Roget's Thesaurus), republic (Plato's Republic), Emma (Jane Austen), Alice (Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll). Note that all, (except the Roget's Thesaurus which is a collection of very short definitions and cross referenced words) follow the same trend of a slope of -1 in the log-log plot.


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It is possible that, if deciphered, the manuscript would reveal no more than the knowledge found in other mediaeval herbals and alchemy books. However, if the document is real it means that at least the people involved in the writing were able to read it. The fact that it still remains unread is quite unique and a challenge in cryptological terms. What was the method of encoding? What is the original underlying language ? Who wrote it? Why? It would also be interesting to know what kind of knowledge required such an amount of secrecy at the time of writing. It could even contain a subject completely unrelated to the drawings...

In any case, if a "readable" text is produced after some processing of the manuscript text, how can one be sure that the solution is correct? Could any of the solutions which have been announced be correct? On which basis to accept or reject a proposed a solution is quite a problem because there is no date, author, country or language associated with the manuscript. We will assume that:

1. there is a meaningful text underlying the writing in the Voynich manuscript
2. the language is a known one or closely related to a known one, and
3. the text is encoded using a reversible method.

Without all of these being true, there seems to be no possibility of finding a solution.

No solution which fails to present a detailed description of how the "encoding" was done by the writer(s) of the manuscript can be accepted, and this is where most of the proposed solutions fail. It is also clear that neither the method of encoding nor the contents of the decoded text may conflict with the context of a manuscript written in medieval Europe (or elsewhere by a medieval European). Finally, the solution should clearly explain the many odd statistical properties found in the manuscript text, which could not be fully described here, but which may be found in the literature on the subject (Tiltman, 1967; Currier, 1976; D'Imperio, 1978).

It seems paradoxical that at the time of rising concerns about the public use of "uncrackable" security codes, a medieval manuscript probably cannot be read. Let's hope that it is not for too long.
 

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the manuscript conforms to zipf law this is one thing that keeps me thinking that this is the real deal and not some sort of elaborate hoax.
 

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"It is possible that, if deciphered, the manuscript would reveal no more than the knowledge found in other mediaeval herbals and alchemy books"

damn fist you called that shyt a couple of posts back
 

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"It is possible that, if deciphered, the manuscript would reveal no more than the knowledge found in other mediaeval herbals and alchemy books"

damn fist you called that shyt a couple of posts back

they are books on this however i dont know if the author(s) attempt to decipher this or not
 
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