Vladimir Putin admits to 360,000 “irretrievable” losses in Ukraine. Trumps special envoy to Ukraine confirms Russians losing 5 times more troops.

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Support nazi cacs Breh... :manny:

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Various elements of the Wagner Group have been linked to far-right extremism, including white supremacy and neo-Nazism.[383][384][385][386] Some founding members of Wagner belong to the far-right ultranationalist Russian Imperial Movement.[387] Wagner's first commander, Dmitry Utkin,[140] was reportedly a neo-Nazi and had several Nazi tattoos,[388][389][384][386] greeted subordinates by saying "Heil!", wore a Wehrmacht field cap around the unit's training grounds, and occasionally signed his name with the two lightning bolt insignia of the Nazi SS.[140]

In 2021, the Foreign Policy report noted the origin of the name "Wagner" to be unknown.[103] Others say the group's name comes from Utkin's own call sign "Wagner", reportedly after the German composer Richard Wagner, which Utkin is said to have chosen due to his passion for the Third Reich (Wagner being Adolf Hitler's favorite composer).[390][384] Members of Wagner Group said Utkin was a Rodnover, a follower of Slavic native faith.[391] A Wagner sub-group, "Rusich", was founded by self-proclaimed neo-Nazi Alexey Milchakov and is open about its far-right ideology.[144][392][393][148] Wagner members have also left neo-Nazi graffiti on the battlefield,[385][342] such as swastikas and the SS emblem.


Since the 2004 Orange Revolution in Ukraine, the Russian government has been routinely accused of collaborating with neo-Nazis in order to fight domestic opposition to Vladimir Putin. This policy, known as managed nationalism, led to the increased prominence of the Russian Image group until its collapse in 2009 after the arrest of its leaders for the murders of Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova.[1] Court documents at the trials of Russian Image leaders revealed that the organisation had connections to the Presidential Administration of Russia, that wanted "an organisation, dependent on the authorities, which could control the Russian far right".
 

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Resources. Russia doesn’t actually contribute anything to the world other than fossil fuels. Culturally, they never left the tsar phase (Even Soviet communist leadership covertly acted like tsar’s).

They’ve always needed vassal states to survive. A lot their Soviet era equipment and tech came from Ukraine, arguably their strongest muscle from the Soviet era.

Now they want all those countries back, and are willing to rape and pillage any of them who fight back. Ukraine has been the most successful since Chechnya, Georgia, and Belarus have been somewhat re-absorbed.

Dumbasses with no face to face experience with this shyt were really believing the whole “NaTO iS TrYiNg HiM” and “ThEy’Re AlL nAzI’s” bullshyt.
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They’re burning through what they basically consider to be “slave regions” throughout the country’s east. It’s just their culture to do it that way. When they get to the point of having to mostly conscript from the Moscow population it’s going to really become a problem.
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Are you denying that there's Nazism in Russia because I used Wikipedia as a source? You do understand how the site works, right?

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Fine, whatever; we'll play your game:












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Are you denying that there's Nazism in Russia because I used Wikipedia as a source? You do understand how the site works, right?

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Fine, whatever; we'll play your game:












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All of these are from the last year or so, clearly contrived to try and counter the Ukraine nazi stories .
The Ukraine Nazi stories have been circulating for years, well before the conflict started.
It's not hard to tell which is based in fact & which is propaganda.
 

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All of these are from the last year or so, clearly contrived to try and counter the Ukraine nazi stories .
The Ukraine Nazi stories have been circulating for years, well before the conflict started.
It's not hard to tell which is based in fact & which is propaganda.
So you're saying Wagner is not full of neo-nazis? Just want to make sure I understand your position
 

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So you're saying Wagner is not full of neo-nazis? Just want to make sure I understand your position
Any cac military is going to have elements of nazi lovers but if you look at it historically the Russians fought tooth and nail against the nazis in WW2. They are proud of their stand against the nazis.
The Ukrainians fought with the nazis against the Russians. They are proud of their stand against the soviets & resent the Russians for forcing them to become part of the Soviet Union.
Ukraine is infested with nazis & nazi sympathizers.
 

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All of these are from the last year or so, clearly contrived to try and counter the Ukraine nazi stories .
The Ukraine Nazi stories have been circulating for years, well before the conflict started.
It's not hard to tell which is based in fact & which is propaganda.

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Published in 2013:
Over half of the world’s Neo-Nazi members are in Russia.

Published in 2009:

Released in 2004:


Your efforts have been valiant, but the jig is up, Igor.
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Any cac military is going to have elements of nazi lovers but if you look at it historically the Russians fought tooth and nail against the nazis in WW2. They are proud of their stand against the nazis.
The Ukrainians fought with the nazis against the Russians. They are proud of their stand against the soviets & resent the Russians for forcing them to become part of the Soviet Union.
Ukraine is infested with nazis & nazi sympathizers.
They fought tooth and nail because Hitler wanted to exterminate them. Before that they were allied
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact



The majority of Ukrainians fought in the red army btw
 

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Publish in 2013:


Published in 2009:

Released in 2004:


Your efforts have been valiant, but the jig is up, Igor.
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Cacs gonna Cac, the fact remains that Ukraine is openly nazi
 

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:lupe:If Russia take Ukraine, should the Ukrainians just shut up about it, years later?
Winners get to dictate terms. If Russia takes Kyiv there will have all the cards in postwar Ukraine. Similar to how Israel put the beat down on all the Arab states in 6 days which is why they dictate terms of any peace or no peace agreements.

Ukrainians won't let that happen though. Russia cannot take the capital....
 

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Any cac military is going to have elements of nazi lovers but if you look at it historically the Russians fought tooth and nail against the nazis in WW2. They are proud of their stand against the nazis.
The Ukrainians fought with the nazis against the Russians. They are proud of their stand against the soviets & resent the Russians for forcing them to become part of the Soviet Union.
Ukraine is infested with nazis & nazi sympathizers.
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