Violence is a male thing

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Patterns of violence-related skull trauma in neolithic southern scandinavia - Fibiger - 2012 - American Journal of Physical Anthropology - Wiley Online Library

There is a reason why female jails are more pleasant that male jails.



This article examines evidence for violence as reflected in skull injuries in 378 individuals from Neolithic Denmark and Sweden (3,900–1,700 BC). It is the first large-scale crossregional study of skull trauma in southern Scandinavia, documenting skeletal evidence of violence at a population level. We also investigate the widely assumed hypothesis that Neolithic violence is male-dominated and results in primarily male injuries and fatalities. Considering crude prevalence and prevalence for individual bones of the skull allows for a more comprehensive understanding of interpersonal violence in the region, which is characterized by endemic levels of mostly nonlethal violence that affected both men and women. Crude prevalence for skull trauma reaches 9.4% in the Swedish and 16.9% in the Danish sample, whereas element-based prevalence varies between 6.2% for the right frontal and 0.6% for the left maxilla, with higher figures in the Danish sample. Significantly more males are affected by healed injuries but perimortem injuries affect males and females equally. These results suggest habitual male involvement in nonfatal violence but similar risks for both sexes for sustaining fatal injuries. In the Danish sample, a bias toward front and left-side injuries and right-side injuries in females support this scenario of differential involvement in habitual interpersonal violence, suggesting gendered differences in active engagement in conflict. It highlights the importance of large-scale studies for investigating the scale and context of violence in early agricultural societies, and the existence of varied regional patterns for overall injury prevalence as well as gendered differences in violence-related injuries. Am J Phys Anthropol, 2012. © 2012 Wiley Periodicals, Inc
 

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breh the abstract says that fatal victimhood is a similarly male and female thing. If you wanted to extrapolate in the dumb way you did we'd say that chances of being murdered in a female prison is about the same
 

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Your willingness to infer reaching conclusions from minimal scientific evidence displeases me. You're clever enough to not say what you really think or drew from this, i think because you know you'll get shyt on.

378 individuals in this study, from one region of the world. Sample size? I suspect you are trying to use this as a state of nature type argument (men are this, women are this in a natural animal environment). Neolithic civilizations had different cultures, and that may have had an impact on treatment of women and gender back then just as much as it does today. There is even acknowledgement of factors such as this in the paper, as well as other potential skewing noted in the discussion.

basically :snooze::snooze::snooze::snooze:

For someone that reads so much anthropology you think you'd be more objective in approaching it. And change your fukking avatar dude. Thats weird.
 
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breh the abstract says that fatal victimhood is a similarly male and female thing. If you wanted to extrapolate in the dumb way you did we'd say that chances of being murdered in a female prison is about the same


idiot.

there was more trauma to male skulls.

how many fights end up in someone being killed. very few. males use violence to assert dominance and hierarchy within tribes.

Warriors engaging in battle will kill all of the enemy tribe--male or female. The fatal blows are because of intertribal fights and non fatal are because of intratribal fights.
 

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idiot.

there was more trauma to male skulls.

how many fights end up in someone being killed. very few. males use violence to assert dominance and hierarchy within tribes.

Warriors engaging in battle will kill all of the enemy tribe--male or female. The fatal blows are because of intertribal fights and non fatal are because of intratribal fights.

Well, obviously I read that. But a rigorous deduction would say you can't say what happened to the dead women (did women or men kill them?), just that they died at the same rate from death blows as men dying from death blows. It rather puts a qualifier on whether they had a more "pleasant" time

I kinda agree with your general POV, men are physically aggressive not just cause of culture but also cause of our biology including neurology and hormones etc. But of all things coming across this paper on your latest phrenology cruise is a pretty random way to support this idea, and especially to take it all the way to as unnatural an environment as prisons :usure:
 

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Well, obviously I read that. But a rigorous deduction would say you can't say what happened to the dead women (did women or men kill them?), just that they died at the same rate from death blows as men dying from death blows. It rather puts a qualifier on whether they had a more "pleasant" time

I kinda agree with your general POV, men are physically aggressive not just cause of culture but also cause of our biology including neurology and hormones etc. But of all things coming across this paper on your latest phrenology cruise is a pretty random way to support this idea, and especially to take it all the way to as unnatural an environment as prisons :usure:

Not to mention that it's very possible this particular group of humans could have had a culture which included and encouraged male violence in a particular way, just as there were many matriarchal cultures whose social orders remain unstudied with respect to gendered violence. You have to be very careful about how you draw these conclusions.
 
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