Video Update: Rand Paul's Speech @ Howard University

[Prince.Skeletor]

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Subs... just dont feel like watchin this nicca right now

 

[Jello Biafra]

He spent too much time talking about how the Republican Party used to be advocates for civil rights and whatnot instead of focusing on what the Party is now and wants to be in the future.
Giving speeches talking about how great the GOP was up till the 60s and how awful the Dixicrats were is just nonsense when you consider most of those Dixiecrats jumped ship to the Republican Party over Civil Rights laws.
He should have tried to hit on the inequalities in economic status, education, sentencing and the like while also pushing the fact that the majority of black folks hold the same stance on social issues as the GOP.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

He spent too much time talking about how the Republican Party used to be advocates for civil rights and whatnot instead of focusing on what the Party is now and wants to be in the future.
Giving speeches talking about how great the GOP was up till the 60s and how awful the Dixicrats were is just nonsense when you consider most of those Dixiecrats jumped ship to the Republican Party over Civil Rights laws.
He should have tried to hit on the inequalities in economic status, education, sentencing and the like while also pushing the fact that the majority of black folks hold the same stance on social issues as the GOP.

Yeah it's kinda insulting when the GOP insists that their weakness with minorities stems from history or the civil rights movement, when there are plenty more current reasons why minorities want nothing to do with them. Like the fact that they still advocate openly racist policies and ideologies.

 

[acri1]

Shyt was weak. He was just droning on and on about how Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and how Republicans used to be anti-discrimination, as if that's gonna convince anybody. I'm surprised he didn't try the "MLK was a Republican" BS.

The majority of black folks hold the same stance on social issues as the GOP.

You know, this is one of those things that people like to say, but that isn't actually true.

Survey: Among black, Hispanic Americans, complexity reigns on abortion issue – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Overall, a majority of black Americans – 67 % - believe abortion should be legal in most cases, while a slight majority of Hispanic Americans – 51% – believe abortion should be illegal in most cases.

While views on abortion are often connected to religion, the survey finds that clergy speech “appears to have no independent effect on black or Hispanic congregants’ attitudes toward the legality of abortion.”

A strong majority of Hispanic - 84% - and black Americans - 68% - who hear about the abortion issue in church responded that their clergy say abortion is “morally wrong.” But large majorities of black and Hispanic Americans “believe that it is possible to disagree with their religion’s teachings on abortion and still be considered a person of good standing in their faith,” the survey found.

Polls Show Sudden Increase in Black Support for Gay Marriage

Recent polls show increasing support for same-sex marriage among blacks. A national exit poll by Edison Research shows that black voters favored their state legalizing gay marriage, 51 to 41 percent. Pew polls have also showed an increase from 36 percent in 2011 to 44 percent last month supporting gay marriage.

According to the exit poll conducted by Edison Research on behalf of the NEP, 51 percent of black voters said their states should legally recognize same-sex marriage, compared with 47 percent of whites who favored this idea.

Majority Now Supports Legalizing Marijuana | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

Men (57%) are somewhat more likely than women (48%) to support marijuana legalization. Support is comparable among racial and ethnic groups — roughly half of whites (52%), blacks (56%) and Hispanics (51%) favor legalizing the use of marijuana.

If anything data would indicate black people are slightly more liberal on social issues, despite the whole "black people are conservative but too stupid to know it" thing Republicans like to imply.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I call on those polls. Maybe the weed and abortion ones are possibly in line with the majority but there is no way the one on gay marriage is even close to being legit.

 

[acri1]

I call on those polls. Maybe the weed and abortion ones are possibly in line with the majority but there is no way the one on gay marriage is even close to being legit.

How you gonna call on polls from Pew Research Center?

C'mon son. I mean Obama and the NAACP endorsed same sex marriage in the last few years, I don't know why you didn't think attitudes about it would change. And I don't think black people (outside of grandmas) were ever particularly conservative on other social issues.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

he gets props for going out there.

i don't agree with everything he said but at least he is putting himself out there on some real "talk to me to my face" steeze.

 

[Jello Biafra]

How you gonna call on polls from Pew Research Center?

C'mon son. I mean Obama and the NAACP endorsed same sex marriage in the last few years, I don't know why you didn't think attitudes about it would change. And I don't think black people (outside of grandmas) were ever particularly conservative on other social issues.

While all my "evidence" to the contrary is anecdotal, I do not see any type of softening on the gay issue with black people. Weed and abortion I can see a softening on but not accepting homosexuality.
And even the Pew Research Center can have skewed polling subjects. If they only polled black voters in more liberal affluent voting areas then they would get different results then if they went to hood polling places and asked those voters.

 

[acri1]

While all my "evidence" to the contrary is anecdotal, I do not see any type of softening on the gay issue with black people. Weed and abortion I can see a softening on but not accepting homosexuality.
And even the Pew Research Center can have skewed polling subjects. If they only polled black voters in more liberal affluent voting areas then they would get different results then if they went to hood polling places and asked those voters.

Well, at least you admit it.

Believe what you want, but there's no statistical evidence that black people (in America) are particularly conservative on social issues (outside of gay marriage) relative to other groups. Blacks were more likely to disapprove of same sex marriage before it became a mainstream issue (and Obama endorsed it) but that difference is dwindling, if it even still exists. At this point it's just something Republicans like to say when they whine about not getting any black votes.