VIDEO: Peter Schiff sonning delegates at Democratic National Convention

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LOL.......I bet Van Jones shyt himself when he saw Peter Schiff approach. Jones ran away faster than Usain Bolt.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fTsF5BiSM"]Democrats: Let's Ban Profits! - YouTube[/ame]
 

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Lmao. And when people call Dems socialists they try and deny it. It's obvious that a democratic paradise is essentially socialism. Let's see how the Obama defense force tries to spin this.
 

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Lmao. And when people call Dems socialists they try and deny it. It's obvious that a democratic paradise is essentially socialism. Let's see how the Obama defense force tries to spin this.

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It's not even a trick question. These people don't even understand the most basic of economics :snoop:
 

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Lmao. And when people call Dems socialists they try and deny it. It's obvious that a democratic paradise is essentially socialism. Let's see how the Obama defense force tries to spin this.

Socialism doesn't promote banning profits, :wtf:

Yea ignorance is evident on both sides, not much more to say than that. Limiting profits, or rather taxing income, is already done though....
 

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It's not even a trick question. These people don't even understand the most basic of economics :snoop:

Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and I considered the 4,835 respondents’ (all American adults) answers to eight survey questions about basic economics. We also asked the respondents about their political leanings: progressive/very liberal; liberal; moderate; conservative; very conservative; and libertarian.

Rather than focusing on whether respondents answered a question correctly, we instead looked at whether they answered incorrectly. A response was counted as incorrect only if it was flatly unenlightened.

1. Restrictions on housing development make housing less affordable.
Unenlightened: Disagree

2. Mandatory licensing of professional services increases the prices of those services.
Unenlightened: Disagree

3. Overall, the standard of living is higher today than it was 30 years ago.
Unenlightened: Disagree

4. Rent control leads to housing shortages.
Unenlightened: Disagree

5. A company with the largest market share is a monopoly.
Unenlightened: Agree

6. Third-world workers working for American companies overseas are being exploited.
Unenlightened: Agree

7. Free trade leads to unemployment.
Unenlightened: Agree

8. Minimum wage laws raise unemployment.
Unenlightened: Disagree


How did everybody do?

Very conservative: 1.30

Libertarian: 1.38

Conservative: 1.67

Moderate: 3.67

Liberal: 4.69

Progressive/very liberal: 5.26

(Based on number incorrect, from 1-8)

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Your post makes no sense because a lot of things are not true/false. Yes/No type of questions. For example free trade can lead to unemployment in certain sectors. Particularly, when the skillset learned is very specific and not easily transferable to other areas.
 

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Your post makes no sense because a lot of things are not true/false. Yes/No type of questions. For example free trade can lead to unemployment in certain sectors. Particularly, when the skillset learned is very specific and not easily transferable to other areas.

granted, that should have been worded better. it can lead to unemployment, but should, in theory, result in a net gain of employment altogether.

i think that the results, based on the introduction, may just have been grouped up in retrospect to single out answers that were incredibly incorrect, and the statements provided were just the core of what was asked...im not sure that those statements were all that was provided, and im pretty sure that the respondents answered in more depth than yes/no, agree/disagree.
 

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granted, that should have been worded better. it can lead to unemployment, but should, in theory, result in a net gain of employment altogether.

No. That is not necessarily true. If any entire manufacturing industry goes down and it's a very industry specific skillset that goes overseas than there is no guarantee of a net gain in employment absent individuals being retrained and put into industries where they are more needed. Part of our problem has been that Republicans have always been against job training programs that people in Europe have seem to caught onto.

What you can say for sure with free trade is that almost always, the price of that certain good is bound to go down and thus the average consumer will have more money in their pocket and that society will benefit overall. The displacement of those workers or that industry may very well be the cost of that convenience.
 

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No. That is not necessarily true. If any entire manufacturing industry goes down and it's a very industry specific skillset that goes overseas than there is no guarantee of a net gain in employment absent individuals being retrained and put into industries where they are more needed. Part of our problem has been that Republicans have always been against job training programs that people in Europe have seem to caught onto.

What you can say for sure with free trade is that almost always, the price of that certain good is bound to go down and thus the average consumer will have more money in their pocket and that society will benefit overall. The displacement of those workers or that industry may very well be the cost of that convenience.

perhaps but in the era of bailouts, a complete manufacturing industry going under is even less likely than before.

i agree that there is no net gain guarantee under the circumstance you provided, yet, one could argue, that the improved social conditions resulting from free trade should end up creating jobs...money makes money...

workers may well have to re-train or get very different jobs, but they will still have jobs under those circumstances. most of the unemployment caused by free trade is temporary...while the employment created is generally structural, though, that is not always the case of course.

agreed on the job training point completely.

in any event, our debate shows that that statement in the study may very well be misleading and/or misrepresented, but i do not think that the results of the study should then be completely discarded because of it, since the variance was so high.
 
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