USA HOLDS PAKSITAN TO THE FLAMES

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September 7, 2012
State Department Blacklists Militant Haqqani Network
By STEVEN LEE MYERS and ERIC SCHMITT

VLADIVOSTOK, Russia — In a report to Congress on Friday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton formally designated the militant Haqqani network — responsible for some of the deadliest attacks against American troops in Afghanistan — a terrorist organization, two days before a Congressional deadline.

Mrs. Clinton signed the order in Brunei before departing to Vladivostok for the annual Asia Pacific Economic Conference, and State Department officials began notifying senior lawmakers. She issued the report after a last round of internal debate that took place in Washington on Thursday hours before President Obama spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

The decision is the culmination of nearly two years of spirited debate inside the administration that reached a peak in the past month under the pressure of Sunday’s reporting deadline.

Several State Department and military officials had argued that designating the organization would help strangle its fund-raising activities in countries like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates and pressure Pakistan to open a long-expected military offensive against the militants.

Many other senior officials, including several in the White House, expressed deep reservations that blacklisting the group could further damage badly frayed relations with Pakistan, undercut peace talks with the Taliban and possibly jeopardize the fate of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the only American soldier known to be held by the militants.

But in the past few days, supporters of designating the group apparently eased most concerns or put forward contingencies to mitigate the risks and potential consequences.

“This shows that we are using everything we can to put the squeeze on these guys,” said one administration official who was involved in the process, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity on Thursday because the decision had not yet been formally announced.

Another senior administration official said the designation “is a very strong signal of our resolve to combat the Haqqanis.”

Mrs. Clinton and others had already discussed the issue with their counterparts in Pakistan, the State Department said. “This is an internal matter for the United States,” Sherry Rehman, Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States, said in a statement. “It’s not our business. The Haqqanis are not Pakistani nationals.”

“We are not in the business of coddling terrorists and those who challenge the writ of our state,” she continued. “We will continue to work with all international partners, including the U.S., in combating extremism and terrorism.”

Critics had contended that a designation by the Treasury Department or the United Nations could achieve largely the same result as adding the network to the much more prominent State Department list, with far fewer consequences.

But many senior counterterrorism officials as well as top American military officers, including Gen. John R. Allen, commander of American and NATO troops in Afghanistan, had said designating the organization should be a top priority.

“F.T.O. designation could reduce a critical capability of the Haqqani network by increasing the cost of doing business, reducing access to capital, and constraining the network’s financial resources, thereby limiting their freedom to operate in a local, regional, and international context,” Jeffrey Dressler, senior Afghanistan analyst for the Institute for the Study of War, a research organization here, said in a paper issued this week, referring to foreign terrorist organizations.

Mr. Dressler said the Haqqani network’s business interests stretched from Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Persian Gulf, and included car dealerships, money exchanges and construction companies, import-export operations and smuggling networks.

Since 2008, Haqqani suicide attackers have struck the American Embassy and Indian Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, as well as the headquarters of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force and hotels and restaurants there.

American officials confirmed last week that a senior member of the Haqqani family leadership, Badruddin Haqqani, the network’s operational commander, was killed recently in a drone strike in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

Pressure in Congress to add the group to the terrorist list had grown this year. “The Haqqani network is engaged in a reign of terror,” Representative Mike Rogers, a Michigan Republican who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said in July. “Now is the time for action, not simply paperwork and talk.”

With virtually unanimous backing, Congress approved legislation that President Obama signed into law on Aug. 10 giving Mrs. Clinton 30 days to determine whether the Haqqani network was a terrorist group, and report her decision to lawmakers by Sunday, coincidentally three days after the end of the Democratic National Convention.

Critics of designating the group a terrorist organization say the action could drive a wedge between the United States and Pakistan, just as the countries are gingerly recovering from months of grueling negotiations to reopen NATO supply routes. Pakistan closed the routes through its territory after an allied airstrike near the Afghan border last November killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

These same critics say such a move would appear to bring Pakistan a step closer to being designated as a state sponsor of terrorism. American officials say Pakistan’s main spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, is secretly aiding the insurgents. Pakistani officials have said the agency maintains regular contact with the Haqqanis, but deny that it provides operational support.

Steven Lee Myers reported from Vladivostok, and Eric Schmitt from Washington.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/w...haqqani-network.html?_r=1&hp&pagewanted=print

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Why are they attacking the united states installations.

 

[Techniec]

doesnt mean anything

pakistan is too useful of a puppet

 

[Gallo]

Central Asia = Our new bytches

Only Iran and Syria left

 

[Techniec]

Central Asia = Our new bytches

Only Iran and Syria left

central asia is still within the russian sphere

karimov closest to marching to his own tune, well rahman does too, but he doesnt hold weight like karimov

 

[Gallo]

central asia is still within the russian sphere

karimov closest to marching to his own tune, well rahman does too, but he doesnt hold weight like karimov

When I say Central Asia I'm including everything from the middle east to north east Asia. Obviously Russia has the Uzbekistans, Tajikistans and the like in their sphere even if we do have staging bases and conduct military exercises with a few of those Russian near abroad states. But the greater central Asia, that's ours, especially after we get rid of Syrias and Irans regime. And btw, when I say "ours" I don't necessarily mean our puppets even though some are, i mean politically and militarily neutered on the world/regional stage(like Japan and Germany after WW2 and Afghanistan and Iraq today). Neutering all these volatile mix of declining and rising powers is the goal for me(and for many in the US military). So if Russia has the Karimovs, Rahmons in their near abroad neutered then that's a win for the US. They are doing us a favor. Last thing we need are more of these shytty little nobody countries like Iran and Syria in that cesspool of a region getting their weight up like Pakistan and North Korea.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

How much control does Russia have over those two? When I say Central Asia I'm including everything from the middle east to north east Asia. Obviously Russia has the Uzbekistans, Tajikistans and the like in their sphere even if we do have staging bases and conduct military exercises with a few of those Russian near abroad states. But the greater central Asia, that's ours, especially after we get rid of Syrias and Irans regime. And btw, when I say "ours" I don't necessarily mean our puppets even though some are, i mean politically and militarily neutered on the world/regional stage(like Japan and Germany after WW2 and Afghanistan and Iraq today). Neutering all these volatile mix of declining and rising powers is the goal for me(and for many in the US military). So if Russia has the Karimovs, Rahmons and their near abroad neutered or in check then that's a win for the US. They are doing us a favor. Last thing we need are more of these shytty little nobody countries like Iran and Syria in that cesspool of a region getting their weight up like Pakistan(nukes) and North Korea(nukes).

And how long do you think the U.S. can clinge on to this power?

These same critics say such a move would appear to bring Pakistan a step closer to being designated as a state sponsor of terrorism. American officials say Pakistan’s main spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, is secretly aiding the insurgents. Pakistani officials have said the agency maintains regular contact with the Haqqanis, but deny that it provides operational support.

Now they got to explain themselves? It's funny how people are so shocked over a "free and democratic" nation being attacked when u.s. been bullying other nations for decades.

 

[theworldismine13]

Pakistan

 

[Techniec]

Pakistan

why so mad at pakistan?. theyre the twism of international politics, a good subservient lil biitch.

theyll sell their own mothers for a green back

show them some love

 

[theworldismine13]

why so mad at pakistan?. theyre the twism of international politics, a good subservient lil biitch.

theyll sell their own mothers for a green back

show them some love

who is it that im subservient to? are you back on your "black people have to support the ummah or else they are traitors" logic again

 

[Kings County]

cliff notes for a nicca

highlight the important parts

 

[Techniec]

who is it that im subservient to? are you back on your "black people have to support the ummah or else they are traitors" logic again

the military complex in your country that needs new blood to feed on 1-2 every decade or so

but i forgot...you think bombing iran empowers blacks

 

[theworldismine13]

the military complex in your country that needs new blood to feed on 1-2 every decade or so

but i forgot...you think bombing iran empowers blacks

i think bombing iran is neither here nor there as far as black people

you trying to link us policy in the middle east to black people is stupid, if the us bombs iran it is not black people's problem

the main goal of blacks should be to dominate in america and to do that you have to be part of the military



for the billionth time stop tryna to conflate the interest of the ummah and the interests of the black race

 

[Techniec]

i think bombing iran is neither here nor there as far as black people

you trying to link us policy in the middle east to black people is stupid, if the us bombs iran it is not black people's problem

the main goal of blacks should be to dominate in america and to do that you have to be part of the military

Baraka Flocka Flames

for the billionth time stop tryna to conflate the interest of the ummah and the interests of the black race

im not trying to conflate anything you dimwit. i dont think supporting wars that dont aid or benefit the black community is the perogative of a black american. i think its down right stupid. and i will voice my opinions in that regard

will i do anything about it or stop you from making foolish decisions? no. i dont baby sit retards. carry on.

 

[theworldismine13]

im not trying to conflate anything you dimwit. i dont think supporting wars that dont aid or benefit the black community is the perogative of a black american. i think its down right stupid. and i will voice my opinions in that regard

will i do anything about it or stop you from making foolish decisions? no. i dont baby sit retards. carry on.

its none of your fuking business what a black american chooses to support, and its not for you to say whether a war is or isnt in a black person's interest

you in no way shape or form can or should speak about black people's interest

but thanks for sharing your worthless irrelevant thoughts