University of Michigan Wolverines vs The BIG10. The Official Thread.

What will happen to Michigan?

  • Nothing major. Maybe loss of scholarships and/or fine.

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Harbaugh is suspended multiple games and Michigan banned from postseason

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Death Penalty

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Nothing. Michigan makes the NCAA fall back

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Lyin’ Ryan Day snitched because he’s going to get stomped out on the 25th

    Votes: 8 61.5%

  • Total voters
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This is the official non-troll thread of the ongoing witch hunt against University if Michigan.

Will be updated daily with actually verified info from reputable sources


Timeline of events for the casual viewer

Michigan sign stealing allegations timeline​

Oct 25: Michigan comes under NCAA investigation for allegedly scouting future opponents in person, or in common parlance, stealing football signals. Two opponents told Yahoo that they were aware the Wolverines knew their signals. Football assistant Connor Stalions was ID'd as the person of interest.

Oct 25: Head coach Jim Harbaugh denies knowledge of any sign stealing, but said he would cooperate with the NCAA investigation.

Oct 25: ESPN reports that Stalions bought tickets to games at various Big Ten schools and four games at non-conference playoff contenders over three years, including a game at Tennessee when it was a potential CFP team last season.

Oct 25: Washington Post reports that the investigation began when an outside investigative firm came to the NCAA with files and videos on computer drives that were maintained by Michigan, and claims that multiple football coaches and staff members had access to the files.

Oct 26: Big Ten enters the investigation as the commissioner's office says it has the jurisdiction to look into the claims for violating the league's sportsmanship policy.

Oct 26: NCAA enforcement personnel arrive on Michigan's campus to investigate the matter in person. NCAA finds no connection between Harbaugh and the alleged sign stealing.

Oct 27: An anonymous former Division III football coach claims that Stalions paid him to record future Michigan opponents in person, a violation.

Oct 30: Harbaugh speaks on the allegations, saying: "You just have to let it play out. Cooperate with the investigation and see how it plays out. Too much of a one-track mind with the team to engage with all the speculation."

Oct 31: Central Michigan investigates allegations that Stalions attended one of its games wearing CMU apparel. Pictures circulate online that show a man who resembles Stalions at the game in a Chippewas hat.


Nov. 2: Big Ten coaches express frustration with the investigation in a 90-minute video call with commissioner Tony Petitti and demand action, according to ESPN.
Nov. 3: Stalions resigns his post at Michigan.

Nov. 6: Big Ten notifies Michigan that it could issue some formal disciplinary action against the coach or school after the NCAA revealed its investigative findings to the conference.

Nov. 8: Michigan responds to Big Ten, saying in a 10-page letter that any attempt by the conference to punish the school would be a breach of the league's handbook and would "exceed the commissioner's authority under the Sportsmanship Policy." Also possible evidence linking multiple teams to sign stealing of Michigans signs that were forwarded to Michigan opponents

Nov. 10: Big Ten suspends head coach Jim Harbaugh for the rest of the 2023 football regular season after it found Michigan "in violation of the Big Ten Sportsmanship Policy for conducting an impermissible, in-person scouting operation over multiple years, resulting in an unfair competitive advantage that compromised the integrity of competition."

Nov. 10: Michigan responds by saying it intends to file a court order hoping that Harbaugh can stay on the sideline during games until the case is fully resolved.
 

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Last time a Big10 team won the championship was 2014

WE DON'T GIVE A fukk about second place fighting bout who can be second place :skip:
 

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False

Big Ten has admitted they’ve found no evidence linking Harbaugh to the sign stealing.


This is why we have this thread. To separate the fake news from the real.

Not talking about what Harbaugh knew. Talking about the indisputable evidence of Stallions at other teams games. The NCAA didn't suspend Harbaugh because he "knew". They clearly stated that.

This thread is for those like you that need to be given the facts and not a manipulated version of the truth.

Always here to help!
 

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What’s Happening now?


“Sources have indicated for days that both Harbaugh and Michigan have been preparing a legal rebuttal, the process of which likely would include a lawsuit against the Big Ten that asks for a preliminary injunction seeking to prevent the suspension.

Legal experts told ESPN that in order to get a decision in time for Saturday's game -- especially given that Friday is a court holiday -- Michigan would likely be asking for an ex parte ruling on a temporary restraining order, meaning the judge could make a decision after hearing Harbaugh's argument before the Big Ten has an opportunity to respond. The most likely venue for a hearing this week would be Washtenaw County Circuit Court in Ann Arbor. (The other potential venue would be federal court.)

A retired chief judge from Washtenaw County Circuit Court, Donald Shelton, told ESPN via email that the judge who hears the case for the temporary restraining order would need to weigh four factors: the likelihood that Michigan would succeed in the lawsuit in the end; proof of irreparable harm if the suspension is in place while waiting for a trial; what the harm would be to each side if the injunction isn't issued; and whether the public interest is being served by granting it.

Shelton teaches at UM Dearborn in the criminal justice department and noted he's a Michigan law grad and football fan who flies a Michigan flag at home. He joked that when he left the bench, he no longer needed to be unbiased.

But he offered a straight appraisal of the potential legal action with the proof of irreparable harm being the "strong issue" for Michigan in this potential legal dispute.

Shelton laid out Michigan's argument for irreparable harm: "It would argue that each football game is unique and that suspending the coach from any of the forthcoming games is a harm to him and the team that cannot be undone regardless of the outcome of a future trial on the merits."

The counterargument would be, Shelton predicted: "The Big 10 would argue that the team and the games can go ahead without the head coach without detriment, as demonstrated by its success earlier this season when Coach Harbaugh was suspended for 3 games by the NCAA."


There is recent precedent both for a school seeking a temporary injunction to protect a player's eligibility and for a school taking legal action against its own conference.
 

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So……

The Big Ten commissioner is “worried” about Michigan’s competitive advantage about sign sealing allegations but the same said commissioner is suspending the Michigan coach less than 24hrs before a season defining game is not a competitive advantage for PSU…

Make it make sense…..:jbhmm:
 

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Not talking about what Harbaugh knew. Talking about the indisputable evidence of Stallions at other teams games. The NCAA didn't suspend Harbaugh because he "knew". They clearly stated that.
False. The NCAA never suspended Harbaugh. It’s the Big Ten that did. The NCAA requires completion of an investigation per its rules, the Big Ten can move forward immediately if it feels sportsmanship rules were violated. His the ability I file an injunction. Also, the Big Ten had admitted it doesn’t have conclusive evidence Stallions was present at games.


This thread is for those like you that need to be given the facts and not a manipulated version of the truth.

Always here to help!
You’ve admitted to not watching college football and not knowing the facts of the case. That’s fine there’s a thread for that. This is a thread for serious people.
 
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