Understanding Solfeggio Frequencies

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I have been following VBM with interest for about a year and have an urge to understand the solfeggio scale. Good article here

Forgotten In Time: The Ancient Solfeggio Frequencies

The six frequencies are 396, 417, 528, 639, 741, 852. And is often illustrated on a nine point circle with the addition of 963, 174 and 285. The 396 at the 9 position.

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In fact the center digits are 1 through 9.

Each frequency is a family group.

Applying what we know about the rodin diagram with multiplication and division we can see in the solfeggio that all the 1,4, 7's are division in order, and the 2, 8 and 5's are multipying with 3, 6, 9's moving anticlockwise (division).

Multiply Constant Divide
147 = 3 = 174
285 = 6 = 258
369 = 9 = 396

471 = 3 = 417
528 = 6 = 582
693 = 9 = 639

714 = 3 = 741
852 = 6 = 825
936 = 9 = 963
 

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Every different note or frequency has its own unique scale. Equal tempered cromatic scale was invented to make instruments sound ok when played in any key. However in nature, the natural resonant harmonics or overtones that accompany every note, define a unique scale for that single note.

For example, an instrument tuned to C with Just scaling, will have a different B note frequency than the standard modern equal tempered cromatic scale


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What needs to be found is a fundamental frequency to start from. A base note. So maybe use the solfeggio frequencies as the base notes for 9 different scales.
 

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I've seen lots of people just retuning their instruments from 440Hz to 417Hz for A4, or tuning the C5 up to 528Hz.
But they still have the intervals divided into 12 with the same harmony as modern music.

I've been experimenting with the 9 point circle, using some Vedic maths logic. When you count around the circle and get to 10, the 10 is the first number on the next perimeter of the circle. Its the start of another revolution. To find which perimeter a number is located at, you just divide by 9. So 528/9 = 58.6666666666, which means 528 is on the 58th perimeter on the number 6. The recurring decimal 6 shows the point or angle on the circle and the 58 is the distance.



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This is where I have the idea that 7 is very special, because the remainders of a 7 point scale are recurring ancient PI.

I'll eventually hope to have rediscovered a form of music, based on ancient PI and a PHI spiral. The spiral is made from plotting points on the distance from the circle, these points are the frequencies for the intervals. Its just a case of making a phi spiral and working out the frequencies in divisions of 7. (I think).

Not sure if the solfeggio frequencies have any relevance, other than the fact they are on the 3, 6 and 9 points of a nine point circle.
 

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Dividing evenly into 18, found the relationships between 396 and 528, 639 and 852, but 417 and 741 no go. The only relation between 417 and 741 is the 15th note of 417 is 741.333333. An octave of 396 is half an octave of 528, and the same true for 639 and 852.

How do I divide an octave using a ratio of Phi or Pi, or fibonacci.?
 

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Another approach to understanding the solfeggio scale is found in the teachings of G.I. Gurdjieff, who was the first to present the enneagram to the western world. Much of his teaching was based on the concepts revealed through the movements of energy expressed mathematically in the decimal divisions of seven, which he related extensively to the octave.

According to him, as the octave progresses there comes an interval between mi and fa which must be bridged by the 'do' of another octave, and another 'do' bridging that second octave's mi-fa interval, eventually allowing the first octave to complete only by considering the interaction of inner octaves. Like this ...

9 is Do(1)
1 is Re(1)
2 is Mi(1)
3 is Do(2)
4 is Fa(1), Re(2)
5 is Sol(1), Mi(2)
6 is Do(3)
7 is La(1), Fa(2), Re(3)
8 is Ti(1), Sol(2), Mi(3)
9 is Do(1)
1 is La(2), Fa(3)
 

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cymantics is deep. my dude i posted this elsewehere

i recommend downloading Marko Rodin - Vortex Based Mathemathics due to it covering a number of subjects (cymantics, numbers, golden ratio, fractals)
 

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so then what happens? What is the point of this?


everything in the physical universe can be explained through mathematics and numbers... and the concepts in this thread are some of those mathematical models that our physical universe is based on. the universe creates itself through these interacting geometric patterns on every level from atomic to physical matter... it is literally the physical blueprint for our universe.






ironfist you are killin it with these threads my dude, props
 

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cymantics is deep. my dude i posted this elsewehere

i recommend downloading Marko Rodin - Vortex Based Mathemathics due to it covering a number of subjects (cymantics, numbers, golden ratio, fractals)

i need to make a thread on this dude (already did but im in a difficult situation because the majority of the pics to go along with the thread are dead links now gotta figure out how to get this or use autocad....which is a more difficult version of photoshop only with graphs F*CK:snoop::snoop::snoop:)
 
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