Young/Nacho\Drawz
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Type beats are uncreative, unoriginal, and make Hip-Hop music all sound the same? That's what a recent Mass Appeal article claimed. This is my response, presented by Beatstars.
Type Beats Are Uncreative!? (My Response to Mass Appeal)
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Type beats are uncreative, unoriginal, and make Hip-Hop music all sound the same? That's what a recent Mass Appeal article claimed. This is my response, presented by Beatstars.
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
I get what you're saying, but Hip-Hop for the longest time looked down on "biters". Now, brehs go out of their way to copy a "sound" and that's their schtick.
Most of the time, they're just throwing reverb, trap hi hats, and 808s and calling it a "-type beat"
My main issue is, that those producers are only focused on making money off their beats. They make those non-sampled, generic beats and try and sell them on youtube. They swagger jack producer's styles instead of coming up with their own, taking money out of other producer's pockets. They see "oh this producer sold music, I want money, so I'll just make beats that sound kinda like watered down versions of that." It's shallow af, and most of them are suburbanite white kids with pidgeotto haircuts trying to be EDM djs working on macbooks their parents bought them
So their copy-artists, and they're money-focused. Basically the opposite of what I respect beatmakers for.
Most of the time, they're just throwing reverb, trap hi hats, and 808s and calling it a "-type beat"
My main issue is, that those producers are only focused on making money off their beats. They make those non-sampled, generic beats and try and sell them on youtube. They swagger jack producer's styles instead of coming up with their own, taking money out of other producer's pockets. They see "oh this producer sold music, I want money, so I'll just make beats that sound kinda like watered down versions of that." It's shallow af, and most of them are suburbanite white kids with pidgeotto haircuts trying to be EDM djs working on macbooks their parents bought them
So their copy-artists, and they're money-focused. Basically the opposite of what I respect beatmakers for.
DJ Mart-Kos
All Star
Yeah, i think all music is ruined by everybody trying to emulate everybody these days.
It's just an internet trend that comes and goes.
It's always good to have influences but now it all sounds like 1 influence.
I make beats and i listen to all kinds of music from old to new. I take influences from everything even from certain Trap beats probably cause you hear it so much.
To me 80% of Trap beats have always sounded corny cause they sound almost the same everytime.
With sampling you take pieces from very different record labels and they all sound very different i think.
It's just an internet trend that comes and goes.
It's always good to have influences but now it all sounds like 1 influence.
I make beats and i listen to all kinds of music from old to new. I take influences from everything even from certain Trap beats probably cause you hear it so much.
To me 80% of Trap beats have always sounded corny cause they sound almost the same everytime.
With sampling you take pieces from very different record labels and they all sound very different i think.
Tommy Gibbs
Superstar
It's hard to know who produced what today because sooo many beats sound just alike. The same 808, hi hat, snare roll patterns. the same drum sounds. And the same tempo. Producers aren't even trying to set themselves apart from their peers. The only reason we know who made what is by producers putting their vocal tag on it. And that's not "hating" that's the truth
DJ Mart-Kos
All Star
Amen!!!
Young/Nacho\Drawz
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There is no justification for it imo.
Whomever is hot at the moment, thousands will emulate their sound and sell beats in their name.
There will be countless videos reverse engineering the hottest instrumental so others can do exactly what that said producer did.
It becomes a cycle that only breeds clone after clone for months at a time.
The arguments Pain made in the video don't apply to the average producer.
The average producer hasn't worked with Royce, isn't making beats that suit him and if he passes on the beat then sells it online as 'Royce type beat'.
The average producer sees that Tekashi69 is hot right now so they are out emulating his biggest songs for sales.
There aren't enough people trying to create a new sound, their own sound.
Quite frankly it's to the point where artist don't want to hear anything new either.
Their model is if it works for this guy then I'll do what he's doing.
Whomever is hot at the moment, thousands will emulate their sound and sell beats in their name.
There will be countless videos reverse engineering the hottest instrumental so others can do exactly what that said producer did.
It becomes a cycle that only breeds clone after clone for months at a time.
The arguments Pain made in the video don't apply to the average producer.
The average producer hasn't worked with Royce, isn't making beats that suit him and if he passes on the beat then sells it online as 'Royce type beat'.
The average producer sees that Tekashi69 is hot right now so they are out emulating his biggest songs for sales.
There aren't enough people trying to create a new sound, their own sound.
Quite frankly it's to the point where artist don't want to hear anything new either.
Their model is if it works for this guy then I'll do what he's doing.
DJ Mart-Kos
All Star
Amen
I'm torn on this topic as a producer myself
I understand the business aspect of attracting traffic thru those type beats on YouTube but part of me Creatively got a problem with just chasing what's hot
DJ Pain 1 I be seeing on Twitter defending it super hard lol
I understand the business aspect of attracting traffic thru those type beats on YouTube but part of me Creatively got a problem with just chasing what's hot
DJ Pain 1 I be seeing on Twitter defending it super hard lol
I'm with you.....
We can distinguish between type beats as well, since some of them reference the artist, as a sound that would be suitable for that artist.....
While others flat out bite another producer by imitating....i.e. Metro type beat.
Art in large involves imitation and interpolation, with music, not just composition, but mixing, etc ....everything to some degree is based on prior reference, since that's how we hear and interpret things musically....
shyt is tough, because that's not to say you can't be original, but at some point we all using, techniques, etc that wasn't all pioneered by us.....
The Blatant biting down to a Tee is trash though. But even then I hear some shyt that's fire....Formulaic as it may be, you still need to be creative for shyt to shine.
This is a consequence of rap now being pop.
I'm with you.....
We can distinguish between type beats as well, since some of them reference the artist, as a sound that would be suitable for that artist.....
While others flat out bite another producer by imitating....i.e. Metro type beat.
Art in large involves imitation and interpolation, with music, not just composition, but mixing, etc ....everything to some degree is based on prior reference, since that's how we hear and interpret things musically....
shyt is tough, because that's not to say you can't be original, but at some point we all using, techniques, etc that wasn't all pioneered by us.....
The Blatant biting down to a Tee is trash though. But even then I hear some shyt that's fire....Formulaic as it may be, you still need to be creative for shyt to shine.
This is a consequence of rap now being pop.
Alot of the defense u presented is usually for monetary purposes which can be debated if it's good or bad but in a capitalistic system we live in and darwinism ideology, I understand the purpose of type beats taking advantage of business opportunity but same time from what I see is alot of recycled music ripping off from the styles or of today top Producers
It's all subjective based on your motives or perspective
Young/Nacho\Drawz
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He just dropped a beat earlier: [FREE] Tekashi69 x Molly Brazy Type Beat 2018 Free - Add It Up -
I agree....
pifftannen
that's just like, your opinion, man
I like making samples beats most of all but I'll make some 'type beats' too when Im not finding any samples I wanna rock
Young/Nacho\Drawz
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This beat is stupid though.
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we should start a type beat thread challenge like the flip this challenge