TSC Evaluation #119: Juventud Guerrera

mrken12 · Dec 5, 2018

In the last evaluation, Jushin Thunder Liger got a score of 9.40.

TSC Evaluation #118: Jushin Thunder Liger

If people have any requests for future wrestlers you want to see evaluated, let me know. I'll have one wrestler evaluated for each week every Wednesday. The leaderboard is updated every 5 threads so it's never too late to vote for previous threads.

For #120 it will be The Rock.

Pending requests: Mitsuharu Misawa, Billy Kidman, New Jack, Kenta Kobashi, Bret Hart, Akira Hokuto, Chavo Guerrero Jr, Jerry Lynn, Sgt Slaughter, Steve Corino, The Great Muta, Ultimo Dragon
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Major Accomplishments

AAA
AAA Cruiserweight Championship (1x)
Mexican National Atómicos Championship (1x) – with Crazy Boy, Joe Lider and Psicosis II
Mexican National Tag Team Championship (3x) – with Fuerza Guerrera

Big Time Wrestling
BTW United States Light Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Fighting Spirit Wrestling
FSW Primero Championship (1x, current)

International Wrestling All-Stars
IWAS Tag Team Championship - (1x) with Jerry Estrada

International Wrestling Association
IWA World Junior Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Intense Championship Wrestling
ICW World Heavyweight Champion (1x)

Insane Championship Wrestling
ICW Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Ironfist Wrestling
Ironfist Wrestling Flyweight Championship (1x)

Nu-Wrestling Evolution
NWE Cruiserweight Championship (1x)

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him #140 of the 500 best singles wrestlers during the PWI Years in 2003
PWI ranked him #25 of the 500 best singles wrestlers of the PWI 500 in 1998

Pro Wrestling Revolution
PWR Junior Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Pure Action Championship Wrestling
PACW Cruiserweight Championship (1x)

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling
America's X Cup (2004) – with Mr. Águila, Abismo Negro, Héctor Garza and Heavy Metal

World Championship Wrestling
IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship (1x)
WCW Cruiserweight Championship (3x)
WCW World Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Rey Misterio Jr.

World Wrestling All-Stars
WWA International Cruiserweight Championship (2x)

World Wrestling Association
WWA Lightweight Championship (2x)
WWA Welterweight Championship (1x)
WWA Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Fuerza Guerrera
WWA Trios Championship (1x) – with Fuerza Guerrera and Psicosis

World Wrestling Council
WWC World Junior Heavyweight Championship (1x)

World Wrestling Entertainment
WWE Cruiserweight Championship (2x)

Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards
Best Flying Wrestler (1998, 1999)

Xcitement Wrestling Federation
XWF World Cruiserweight Championship (1x)

Xtreme Latin American Wrestling
XLAW Extreme Junior Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Xtreme Italian Wrestling
XIW Italian Championship (1x)

With a scale of 1-10 how would you rate Juventud Guerrera in these categories:

-Mic work/promos

-Personality/gimmicks

-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds)

-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores)

mrken12 · Dec 5, 2018

Starboy52 · Dec 5, 2018

In next week for The GOAT One.

But Juvi... I give him a 6. Breh could go from what I remember of him, but I don’t remember anything about his mic skills and most of the shyt I hear about him is usually in the vein of him being a fukking nut.

ChuckTaylor84 · Dec 5, 2018

I gave him a 6

Great wrestler in the ring but lacked any mic skills

He also botched moves a lot

2CT · Dec 5, 2018

my favorite cruiserweight next to Rey :banderas:

Juvi been that nikka

2 outta 3 falls match vs Rey in ECW :wow:

excellent match and paved the way for a lot of the flippy shyt we see currently

i'ma go with a high 8

CM_Burns · Dec 5, 2018

6. He’s an 8 as a worker but had no charisma on camera despite being a character off it.

Conscious Pilot · Dec 5, 2018

Juvie was one of my favorite CWs when those core guys left and some of his spots and technical wrestling was legitimately outstanding. Not really any memorable moments out the ring,
However... Imma give him a 7.

TL15 · Dec 5, 2018

I knew when this hit...it was about to be lit in the ring :banderas:

The Rainmaker · Dec 5, 2018

In October 2000, during a WCW tour of Australia, Guerrera was arrested at the hotel in which the wrestlers were staying, after an incident in which he was discovered naked and screaming in a hallway, and then attacking police officers who had arrived to detain him. According to the 2004 book The Death of WCW, Guerrera was reportedly under the influence of PCP at the time, after having earlier smoked an unknown substance that was laced with the drug. He pled guilty to assaulting police, causing bodily harm, disorderly behavior, willful exposure, and possession of ecstasy. Guerrera was expelled from the remainder of the tour and later released by WCW, and was ordered to pay nearly $1,800 in fines.

Cartier Murphy · Dec 5, 2018

Ironic that we’re reviewing Juvi today and the Rock next week, when Juvi ripped off the Rock heavy back in the day :ehh:

Anyway, I’ll echo what everybody else has said, 6.

DaKidFromNoWhere · Dec 5, 2018

I gave him an 8 because he was my favorite Luchador back then.

OmegaK2099 · Dec 5, 2018

I give him a 7, he'd have gone far if he layed off the drugs and looked past his own ego

Playaz Eyez · Dec 5, 2018

7. Was my 3rd favorite CW growing up behind Rey Mysterio and Ultimo Dragon. Loved his style, and I guess I'm in the minority of thinking once his masked was removed, he very much did show a ton of personality (even if it mostly amounted to him ripping off The Rock). Females loved him around that time, and dudes wanted to do the shyt he was doing in the ring. I don't know if hes the originator of it, but he was the first person I saw do the Juvi Driver. I loved his ring attire too. I can't think of any classic matches on the top of my head, but I know he had a lot of good matches with Rey, Dean, I think Jericho, Psychosis, and a handful of others. His match with Blitzkreg at Road Wild '99(??) is was favorite. A top rope Juvi Driver finish :picard:

. Him and Rey were pretty good heels in that incarnation of the Filthy Animals as well. I never thought either guy could pull off being douchy shytbag heels, especially being their size doing it. He had a pretty underwhelming WWE run. Wasn't a fan of that bell bottom looking ring attire, then the WWE paired him, Super Crazy, and Psicosis up for that clearly racist Mexicools stable. That was embarrassing.

Outside of the WWE and WCW, this is mostly what I remember Juvi for :mjlol:

Silkk · Dec 5, 2018

^^One of my favorite promos EVER :bryan:

OmegaK2099 · Dec 5, 2018

He only started ripping off the rock after rock dropped that promo on y2j "and you were down south wrestling some jabroni named Juventud"

TSC Evaluation #119: Juventud Guerrera

Overall Rating

1 (Awful)

2

3

4

5 (Average)

6

7

8

9

10 (Legendary)

Veteran

Veteran

Superstar

Penthouse Player

Prolific Poster

Superstar

Do Better.

Veteran

Mr. Money in the Bank

Apathy’s a Tragedy & Boredom is a Crime

Superstar

Gettin' It In

Veteran

Thats My Quarterback :to:

Gettin' It In