Trump to declare national emergency & utilize U.S. military for mass deportation program

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Their number one job before anything is protecting the borders.
They had a border deal that the republicans rejected so they could create the false narrative that democrats didn’t care. The Democrats then created a system through executive orders that significantly curtailed immigration.

The only reason immigration even became a problem was Trump ended the Obama policy of mass deportation that made him one of the largest deporting presidents ever. In fact the person that Trump hired to take over deportation use to work under Obama.

So no illegal deportation was not a democrat problem it was a Republican problem the Democrats got blamed for because they acted p*ssy and didn’t confront the republicans on their bullshyt….. like normal.
 

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I actually agree as the federal government they should have got involved and stopped that nonsense from happening. Democrats being p*ssy is a major factor to their consistent downfall.
Republicans are already deranged, which makes for a more lax Democratic party

Because they think they don't have to do much to get votes
 

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If folks were honest on this board and say the reason why Democrats didn't do anything about the border and its problems because they thought that permanent residency or citizenship could convert them to Democratic voters I would understand. Or some fake solidarity was gonna come from it. Or that Obama kumbaya we are the world mentality.

Or they were scared of incurring the wrath of their progressive voters/base who believed that we should be welcome to all and this is a humanitarian crisis then at least I could take you seriously.

Of course business owners and Republicans are hypocritical when it comes to immigration.

They utilize their services for cheap labor and they didn't vote for the bill because they didn't want to give Biden or Obama the win.

But don't act like we didn't all see the images of towns getting overrun by this for the better part of 3 years or buses being dropped off.

To suggest that they're suddenly powerless to do anything like this because Congress wouldn't act is laughable.

They were scared with upsetting their Democratic voting base.
 

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And anyone saying it's the other sides fault and Biden/Obama got hamstrung

Look what happened when Obama did DACA. He said "fukk it" and it worked. Yeah folks got pissed but it held up over years.

So please spare me with the whole "what was the president supposed to do" bullshyt

So now they got the power to let folks stay but not the power to keep folks out :mjlol:
 
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If folks were honest on this board and say the reason why Democrats didn't do anything about the border and its problems because they thought that permanent residency or citizenship could convert them to Democratic voters I would understand.
This is a lie. There was an agreed-upon by partisan border agreement that Trump got killed. It’s been pointed out in here. Yet you still are going to run with a proven lie.
 

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People in here treat understanding how policy works, and the numbers are required to pass a Bill are a superpower. All this while folks are “supposed to do their job “without legislation and funding to actually do it. This is a collective of incurious political illiterates Who think they’re gathering of numbers and congratulating each other on the ignorance is proof of something. Don’t you guys get bored by that stuff after a while? You had someone say “50/50 split” well, completely ignoring two rogue Democrats within that 50 that killed a bill that would have addressed the border issue.

Its sad .
 

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If folks were honest on this board and say the reason why Democrats didn't do anything about the border and its problems because they thought that permanent residency or citizenship could convert them to Democratic voters I would understand. Or some fake solidarity was gonna come from it. Or that Obama kumbaya we are the world mentality.

Or they were scared of incurring the wrath of their progressive voters/base who believed that we should be welcome to all and this is a humanitarian crisis then at least I could take you seriously.

Of course business owners and Republicans are hypocritical when it comes to immigration.

They utilize their services for cheap labor and they didn't vote for the bill because they didn't want to give Biden or Obama the win.

But don't act like we didn't all see the images of towns getting overrun by this for the better part of 3 years or buses being dropped off.

To suggest that they're suddenly powerless to do anything like this because Congress wouldn't act is laughable.

They were scared with upsetting their Democratic voting base.
I guess you needed a few hours to come back and repeat the same lies so I’m going to post the course of our earlier conversation so it could then again kill this nonsense that you’re spitting
There’s nothing to remember. I stay focused and to the point while people just blab and answer their own questions.

I have a journalism degree. I was trained to get to actual points, which is why I had to repeat it because you seemed unable to get to actual point. And one thing that the Republicans have mastered is that people like you only start counting to Democratic reactions to Republican tomfoolery. Sort of like the “Biden crime bill” that many seem to bring up… Never seeing that was in response to Ronald Reagan drugging the black community to fund his illegal war. That seems to be a habit and Im One who asks people to address the initial or root cause of something.

So let’s address this. You said Biden should’ve sent a team at the border. That requires funding. Fundinf for that was available through a Republican and Democratic bipartisan agreement that the House came up with. There was going to be money put aside to do the very thing that you’re speaking on. Donald Trump told their Republicans to vote against the bill They helped create and approve.


Are you willing to see that Biden was hamstrung or do you want to leave as you came?

For some reason

Trump doesn't seem to be hamstrung by "funding" or rules or administrative redtape

But somehow some magical way by and to lesser extent, Obama seemed to be.

Please do tell why.

Why do rules and policies always seem to holdup Democrats and not Republicans?

Because one utilizes the power they have, while the other plays cautious with it.

It was 50/50 with a split VP vote. This is going nowhere.

You'll get thru the next 4 years your way and I'll do mine.

Because he now has a majority house and Senate. Biden only had a house majority. Do you understand how government works?
Do you Understand how bills turn into law?

Funding comes through bills that are turned into law. You need to have the majority of the house in the Senate to approve a bill in order for a president to authorize and sign it into law. Trump has both the house and Senate. I don’t think you understand how Government works asking such a question.

Sinema and Manchin say differently.

Manchin was not a real Dem and voted against it.

Again… There’s nothing fatherly about this. You are fully capable… Fully capable as I am… Of reading and ingesting the same information that I read. It’s a matter of caring. I don’t think you care. You say 50-50 split and don’t even know the parties involved. I’m naming names. Joe…the fraud Democrat and recently retired senator out of West Virginia voted against it. Same with the fraud out of AZ.

Again… This is nothing fatherly…… This is something you are capable of knowing as well. The difference between me and you is that I actually am curious to know who is who. You are more into responding with empty platitudes while examining Democratic reactions on television and not the actual business of governing. You don’t care. Nothing fatherly about what I’m saying. I care more than you do.

Like, damn dog. You know there’s a process. You know there has to be funding in order to get manpower at the border to manage things. You know there was a bipartisan agreement that was put together. You know Trump told Republicans in the Senate to get in line and vote against it until after the election. You know that 50-50 split that you brought up is false considering two Democratic senators were Republicans and Democratic clothing. You know all this yet you come back the next day and post another variation of the same bullshyt you posted yesterday.

Like, where is this bullshyt going? You know you got the correct answer yesterday yet you are back here repeating another variation of the same flawed argument. Doesn’t that shyt get boring?
 

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Of course there isn’t anything to discuss. You are a political illiterate and will not take in facts anyway. You want to leave as you came. Don’t pretend that you want to learn something based on what I would present.
Go bake some cookies.
 

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I guess you needed a few hours to come back and repeat the same lies so I’m going to post the course of our earlier conversation so it could then again kill this nonsense that you’re spitting











Like, damn dog. You know there’s a process. You know there has to be funding in order to get manpower at the border to manage things. You know there was a bipartisan agreement that was put together. You know Trump told Republicans in the Senate to get in line and vote against it until after the election. You know that 50-50 split that you brought up is false considering two Democratic senators were Republicans and Democratic clothing. You know all this yet you come back the next day and post another variation of the same bullshyt you posted yesterday.

Like, where is this bullshyt going? You know you got the correct answer yesterday yet you are back here repeating another variation of the same flawed argument. Doesn’t that shyt get boring?

What funding did Obama get in advance for DACA?

Or did he make folks figure it out after he did it? I ain't living on here waiting on your replies man, I post when I want :mjlol:

Saying the President is neutered when it came to locking down the border but got all the power in the world to get folks work permits, social security numbers and working permits is being disingenuous
 
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