Trump to declare national emergency & utilize U.S. military for mass deportation program

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IAMDetroit

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The thing about all of this shyt trump yappin about takes a lot of work and republicans HATE TO fukkIN WORK.. they like the benefits and perks of the office they hold but don’t want to do the leg work to pass any legislation…

So to say all to say it will be next to impossible for them to accomplish mass deportations… The most that will happen is a few folk ending up in detention centers throughout the country which will have legal challenges in itself
Tell that to them thousands from last term
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They don't care just like the fools didn't care when he was bopping his gums about tariffs. This shyt along with the tariffs and the government reduction is a recipe for a massive recession, but Trump is a business man so he clearly knows what he is doing. :pachaha:

Hell he almost tanked the economy his 1st term, but just like George W. Bush the second term might just be the charm.

Most of these white "businessmen" started on 3rd base, fukked up the bag, and got some kind of bailout

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He doesn't just want to get rid of illegal immigrants. He also wants to get rid of naturalized citizens and his political enemies. Note that under his expansive immigration policy, you don't have to be convicted of a crime regarding your immigration, you only have to be accused. That means that his administration can accuse anyone they want of fraud and deport them
If you’re here illegally, then it’s not an accusation.
 

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Remember when Putin said he’d conquer Kyiv in 3 days?

This is waaaaay more difficult and complicated to do than that. As are most of his outright insane Project 2025 plans.

Additionally, remember, his cabinet is full of stupid people. You think they’d be able to pull off 1/10 of that shyt?

Anyways, here are some problems this cabinet of “Einsteins” will have to account for:



Russian citizens don’t feel the effect of the war, we’ll feel this effect in our livelihood and financials immediately.
 
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The Posse Comitatus Act Explained​


The law generally prevents the president from using the military as a domestic police force.​


"The Posse Comitatus Act consists of just one sentence: “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”"



He would need an Act of Congress to authorize this, since the Constitution does not. So the Democrats can easily stop this act, and therefor I said "No".
The Insurrection Act overrides the Posse Comitatus Act. One of the Acts conditions is that 'unlawful obstruction' makes it 'impractical' to enforce federal law. This is how they used the Act to enforce desegregation. Trump can easily say that things like sanctuary state policy forced his hand. The states can sue, but the Supreme Court and a lot of federal judges will likely rule in his favor. It's gonna be ugly.
 

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The Insurrection Act overrides the Posse Comitatus Act. One of the Acts conditions is that 'unlawful obstruction' makes it 'impractical' to enforce federal law. This is how they used the Act to enforce desegregation. Trump can easily say that things like sanctuary state policy forced his hand. The states can sue, but the Supreme Court and a lot of federal judges will likely rule in his favor. It's gonna be ugly.
Ok, did some reading on The Insurrection Act and you are correct, it can over-ride the Posse Comitatus Act. A circumstance that would allow it is if the state or city decides it is going to countermand the federal order to allow ICE to come in and remove the illegal immigrants. So Sanctuary cities that decide their declared status allows them to ignore Federal Law and use their own governments to hinder the execution of the law, opens the door to him using The Insurrection Act to send the military in to aid in the execution of the law that is being obstructed by the local governments.


"Section 253 has two parts. The first allows the president to use the military in a state to suppress “any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy” that “so hinders the execution of the laws” that any portion of the state’s inhabitants are deprived of a constitutional right and state authorities are unable or unwilling to protect that right. Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy relied on this provision to deploy troops to desegregate schools in the South after the Supreme Court’s landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education."

So yes, if the states or cities decide they are going to fight the Federal government to protect the illegal aliens from ICE, he has a pathway to use that Act on those particular areas. It does not give him cart blanche authority to use the military in all areas of the US.

Also on the same website:

"However, while this precedent might prevent judges from second-guessing whether the president is allowed to invoke the Insurrection Act in response to a given situation, the Supreme Court clarified in Sterling v. Constantin (1932) that courts may still review the lawfulness of the military’s actions once deployed. In other words, federal troops are not free to violate other laws or trample on constitutional rights just because the president has invoked the Insurrection Act."

So the rights of citizens can not be removed just because the President invoked the Act. Now if the courts will protect those rights can be argued since the Supreme Court is Right leaning though. Still, a pathway to head this off at the pass is to actually follow Federal Law, and not try to use your local government resources to obstruct the Federal Government from removing the Illegals.

Now, on this issue of removing Illegal Aliens, I have to admit I am biased on the issue. I see no problem with removing them from the country and forcing them to come back the right way. I am especially in favor of removing the major criminal element that has slipped into this country illegally, and also feel sanctuary cities should not exist for those here illegally. Stating this all to make my position clear on this issue.
 
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