Trump to debate moderators: Don’t even think about fact-checking me. My supporters are watching!

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Trump to debate moderators: Don’t even think about fact-checking me. My supporters are watching!

This is a remarkable exchange from an interview with Donald Trump on Fox and Friends this morning:

QUESTIONER: Lester **** — should he be a moderator, and just ask questions, or should he be a fact checker, where he asks a question, and if somebody says something that he thinks is wrong, that he’s gonna try to correct the record? What would you like to see — a moderator, or a fact checker?

TRUMP: Well, I think he has to be a moderator. You’re debating somebody, and if she makes a mistake, or if I make a mistake, we’ll take each other on. But I certainly don’t think you want Candy Crowley again.

QUESTIONER: [Snickers knowingly.] She was wrong!

TRUMP: I really don’t think you want that. That was a very pivotal moment in that debate. And it really threw the debate off. And it was unfair. So I don’t think you want that. No, I think you have to have somebody that just lets ’em argue it out.

You know, I think there’s a lot of pressure on Lester. I think Lester’s a very good person, a very good man. I think there’s a lot of pressure on him. You know, when I had the town hall, last week with Hillary, I did well, and I had tough questions. But the polls all had her taking a drubbing….They went after Matt Lauer, and I’ve never seen anything like it….That’s what they’re doing with Lester ****…and a lot of people are watching to see whether he succumbs to that pressure.

As you may recall, during one of the 2012 debates, Candy Crowley gently pointed out that Mitt Romney was wrong when he said that Obama had not immediately called the Benghazi attacks an “act of terror.” The wrath of Romney supporters bore down on Crowley for days in the wake of this shocking transgression. But, despite the snickering on Fox and Friends about this, Crowley was basically right: On the day after the attacks, Obama said: “no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation.”

[Charles Lane: Why the media blitz on Trump isn’t working]

It would not be unreasonable for the upcoming debates’ moderators to hear Trump’s allusion to Crowley and conclude that if they challenge him on the facts, they can expect to be subjected to days and days of rage and abuse from his surrogates and supporters, just as she was. After all, as he put it, “a lot of people” (i.e., his supporters) will see such conduct as “succumbing” to pressure from Clinton supporters, and they’re “watching” for that.

It’s true, as Trump argues, that Clinton and her supporters went hard after Matt Lauer after the recent town hall, because they were unhappy with his soft questioning of Trump, and that many went on to cite the Lauer failure as a cautionary tale for the debate moderators to avoid. This, as Trump notes, is also a form of pressure and ref-gaming.

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Hey, Lester ****: We Made a Cheat Sheet of Trump’s Favorite Lies for You

Donald Trump lies. A lot. He lies about big things, and small things, and things in between. As Matt Lauer can attest, that will pose a particular problem this fall for the debate moderators as they decide whether and when to fact-check in real-time a man for whom hyperbole and mendacity are the norm.

To help Monday’s debate moderator Lester **** out, below is a list of some of the most common lies Trump has told on the stump this past year, which he will likely repeat at the debate, debunked. When **** asks himself whether and when to fact-check Trump live, let the answers be: Yes and always!

Lies Trump Tells About Himselfsing students, according one of Trump’s lawyers. Furthermore, the venture received a “D-” rating in 2010 from the Better Business Bureau. Trump also likes to boast that his seminars received a “98-percent approval rating from the people who took the course.” That appears to be a lie as well. One of the class-action lawsuits now pending against the company alleges that those surveys were filled out under pressure from the instructors.

Birtherism
Lie: Trump “finished” the birther conspiracy theory.
Truth: The White House released Obama’s longform birth certificate in the spring of 2011 and yet it wasn’t until this September—more than five years later—that Trump was willing to publicly concede for the first time that Obama was not born in Kenya. In the interim, he continued to sow doubt by claiming that the release he wants credit for was actually forged, and going as far as to suggest that a state employee may have been murdered as part of the cover-up.

Lies Trump Tells About Hillary
Birtherism
Lie: Hillary Clinton “started” the birther conspiracy theory.
Truth: Fact-checkers at the Washington Post, PolitiFact, and Factcheck.org have all looked into the Clinton’s-the-original-birther claim, and found no link between Hillary and the racist rumors. The alleged smoking gun Trump surrogates like to cite was an 2007 strategy memo written by a Clinton adviser that suggested it would be in Hillary’s interest to play up Obama’s multiculturalism in subtle ways. Meanwhile, while there were reports of some of her supporters pushing separate-but-related falsehoods about Obama’s faith, no one has ever uncovered a single example of Clinton publicly questioning that Obama is a natural-born citizen. Furthermore, attempts by Obama’s political rivals to other him did not begin in 2008; they can betraced back at least to Obama’s 2004 campaign for the U.S. Senate, sadly.

Second Amendment
Lie: Clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment.
Truth: The Trump campaign has never produced a single example of Clinton advocating for the repeal of the Second Amendment. Instead, she says she wants to impose “common-sense” restrictions on who can own a gun.

Lies Trump Tells About Things He’s Said
Lie: He never proposed a total ban on Muslims entering the United States.
Truth: He did.

Lie: He never suggested women who have an abortion should be punished.
Truth: He did.

Lie: He never said he’s open to nuking ISIS.
Truth: He did.

Lie: He never said he’d pay the legal fees of a supporter who beat up a protester.
Truth: He did.

Lies Trump Tells About the Country
Immigration
Lie: There could be as few as 3 million or as many as 30 million undocumented immigrants in the United States.
Truth: The Department of Homeland Security last estimated the size of the undocumented population at 11.4 million at the start of 2012, down from a peak of 12.2 million five years earlier. As PolitiFact points out, that figure is line with the most recent estimates from the Pew Research Center (11.3 million in 2014), the Center for Migration Studies (10.9 million in 2014), and the Center for Immigrations Studies (11.7 million in 2016). While the government does not know the exact number of undocumented immigrants in the United States, there are no credible estimates that approach either Trump’s high- or low-end numbers.

Lie: Assimilation among American Muslims is nearly "non-existent.”
Truth: The Pew Research Center conducted a major survey on the topic in 2011 and concluded “Muslim Americans appear to be highly assimilated into American society.” Public polling of Muslim Americans likewise suggests that a majority identify strongly with the United States.

The electoral process
Lie: The general election debates are “rigged” against him because two overlap with NFL games.
Truth: The Commission on Presidential Debates consulted with both parties before setting the fall schedule for the three presidential debates and the single vice presidential one. Furthermore, the bipartisan panel announced the dates in September of last year, more than four months before this year’s first nominating contest and nearly seven months before the NFL released its schedule for the season. Scheduling conflicts between major sporting events and the general election debates are also neither new—there were two NFL conflicts in 2012 alone—nor easily avoidable, given the NFL now plays on Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays, while MLB playoff games up to and including the World Series can fall on any day of the week. (Bonus lie: Trump claims the NFL sent him a letter alerting him about the conflict; the NFL says that didn’t happen.)

Lie: The election itself is “rigged” against him.
Truth: Trump’s claim was, in the words of the usually staid Associated Press, an “unprecedented assertion by a modern presidential candidate,” one that could “threaten the tradition of peacefully contested elections and challenge the very essence of a fair democratic process.” Trump has laid the groundwork for only two possible outcomes in the eyes of his most passionate supporters: He wins the presidency, or he has it stolen from him. Meanwhile, his campaign has produced no credible evidence to support the extraordinary claim that the outcome of an election that has yet to happen will be illegitimate.
Hey, Lester ****: We Made a Cheat Sheet of Trump’s Favorite Lies for You


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Trump to debate moderators: Don’t even think about fact-checking me. My supporters are watching!


Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Trump is so scared that he wants us to dismantle the Constitution
What a bozo this Trump guy is
Hey, Lester ****: We Made a Cheat Sheet of Trump’s Favorite Lies for You

Donald Trump lies. A lot. He lies about big things, and small things, and things in between. As Matt Lauer can attest, that will pose a particular problem this fall for the debate moderators as they decide whether and when to fact-check in real-time a man for whom hyperbole and mendacity are the norm.

To help Monday’s debate moderator Lester **** out, below is a list of some of the most common lies Trump has told on the stump this past year, which he will likely repeat at the debate, debunked. When **** asks himself whether and when to fact-check Trump live, let the answers be: Yes and always!

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I expect more lunacy near election day. Certain fukk shyt states/cities might have these clowns near voting locations. I wouldn't be surprised but it would be ultimate fukkery and worrying.
 
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